Fallout 4

[Kikó]

I've been motoring through recently. Some cool places like Covenant (the one with the walls and the guns) near Taffington boat house. Taff must be the worst settlement to live on the game behind the farm. Last time I turned up, three radioscorpions were attacking the poor fuckers.

Last mission I did was to reactivate the water pump for some Mr Handy's which saw the brotherhood flying in and having an almighty battle with some super mutants. Great game at times.

[Yevrah]

Survival revamped beta has hit steam, anyone on pc tried it?

[Disco]

No console and no manual save. In a Bethesda game. Is it Friday already?

I'd run a hundred miles from that until it gets modded back in.

[Yevrah]

What is perhaps most annoying about it is that it replaces the original survival mode. So if new survival mode is crap/broken, I'll be stuck playing a game on an easier difficulty level (very hard).

[Raoul Duke]

Completed Automatron earlier. Quite enjoyed it and Ada is badass once upgraded. Got her kitted out with a Gatling Laser on one hand and just working through the perks to unlock a cool hand-to-hand combat mod.

[Yevrah]

Had a go on the revamped survival mode today. It's fucking solid.

[Raoul Duke]

Sounds pretty bonkers from what I've read. Not my cup of tea (and I couldn't countenance starting again after ploughing this much time into one save), but seems like it's right up your street.

[Yevrah]

It is, notwithstanding a few issues that were pretty apparent.

As well as adding weight to ammo and the like (which I'm fine with) they've also nerfed the base carry weight (it's now 100 + Strength x10 rather than 200). Apparently a similar thing has been done to companions. Not sure whether that was necessary.
I lost my dog after about an hour's play and with no fast travel to act as a 'reboot' I've got no fucking idea where he is and I'm guessing that's that. Coupled with the above, that could be a right pain in the arse.
Fatigue/hunger/thirst etc. seemingly don't cause you to lose hit points and as such, I don't think you can die from them, which is retarded.
There's no numerical meter in the menus to show you how dehydrated or hungry you are. There's a narrative description which does change, but it would be nice to be able to see numerically how much hunger eating a deathclaw steak removes, for example.

Saving does only seem to happen after sleeping, so I lost an hour's play having neglected to do so. But for me that was brilliant as the game now has jeopardy in it that was lacking before when you reached a certain level. That will no doubt still happen again, but it's sure as shit going to take a lot longer.

[Disco]

If it's anything like other Bethesda games traversing a cell (normally anything that requires a loading screen) resets followers so he may just reappear instantly and very definitely in the way.

[Yevrah]

Cheers Disco.

After a couple of trial runs, I think this may well be the best starting build, for me at least.

Strength 10 - The nerfed carry weight kills the way I enjoy playing the game so this almost became the first number down.
Perception 4 - Don't think I could cope without lockpicking so this needs to be 4.
Endurance 1 - Not going to make things easy on the HP front, but hey ho.
Charisma 6 - Local Leader is a bit of a must again for me.
Intelligence 1 - Won't be able to spam purified water, but that's probably a good thing.
Agility 1 - No room for this to be anything other than 1, but I think I'll raise to 2 immediately with the you're special book.
Luck 5 - 5 to get Idiot Savant to make up for the piss poor intelligence.

Oh and I discovered that you do lose health if things get too bad on the starvation/dehydration front.

[Raoul Duke]

How has it changed the way you play from "normal", Yev?

When we get mods for this, the first thing I'll do is remove the weight limit. It's such a ballache. Every single mission ends up with me heavy breathing whilst clunking through the place like some overweight pensioner. I spend far too much time doing inventory management and it's still unrealistic. Either make it actually realistic or just sack it off entirely.

I feel like my gun selection hasn't changed in ages either. I've got a mammoth pistol, a shotgun with fire-damage bullets, a sniper rifle with a tracking scope, a quad-barrelled rocket launcher with a targeting add-on and a laser rifle. I've not really felt the need to mix it up in a while either.

Robot building is ace though. I created some absolutely bonkers Sentrybot earlier who could take on the entire map by himself I reckon

[Yevrah]

I don't mind a weight limit, but a base of 100 is taking the piss a bit, particularly in a game that promotes the fact that everything you pick up does something.

As for it changing the way I play, I'm not 100% certain yet as I've not bothered with much of the settlement stuff yet (as I'll go back to the XB1 version when the mode goes gold, so I'm fucked it I'm doing all that twice), but my character (with the build above) is up to level 10 now and the biggest thing I've noticed is an understanding of your surroundings is absolutely key.

Basically the mode is fucking rock solid, even a pack of dogs at level 10 can take me down and coming up against a group of raiders (particularly those armed with explosives) is fucking deadly, so an awareness of where to hide and where you can take cover is crucial. I've not left the North West of the map yet (which I know like the back of my hand), but I'd imagine this will only intensify when I do.

It's comfortably the hardest thing Bethesda have churned out and I have to say I'm loving it as a result. The original survival mode was a piece of piss, but so many things have been nerfed in this revamped one the challenge will last a very long time.

That said, it needs a few tweaks - you need to drink what seems like far too much water to stay hydrated being the main one that I'd suggest.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.graingergames.co.uk/inde...&stockid=59627

Will finally be able to play in a couple of days

[Yevrah]

[Raoul Duke]

Holy shit.

Cats

[Yevrah]

Done properly, Pokemon with Deathclaws and the like could be fucking amazing.

[Raoul Duke]

Tempted to stay up tonight to put an hour into Wasteland Workshop when it unlocks at midnight.

[Yevrah]

I'm really curious to know what the special requirements are for doing the pokemon style shit (so I can work out what build I'll need) but beyond that I'll be waiting for the Survival update to go live before starting the mother of all saved games from the beginning.

[Raoul Duke]

Load of pics here: https://imgur.com/a/7ReIt - it's unlocked for people over in AU/NZ

Requirements for capturing stuff: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comment...shop_what_are/

[Yevrah]

Cheers Raoul.

Some of the stuff in that.

[Raoul Duke]

The power generator stuff might be the best bit in there. Being able to actually light shit up properly will make things look awesome. Also filling Starlight Drive-In with buses (converted into mini-houses) will look ace.

That plus having a hundred cats, anyway.

[Yevrah]

Had a quick look last night and there's some good stuff in there, albeit pitting creatures against each other wasn't immediately well explained.

[Raoul Duke]

I spent the evening building myself an epic concrete research bunker in the middle of Sanctuary I've got a powered door with a pressure plate to exit, a 100 power generator with all sorts of shit wired up to it (decontamination shower is ace), with a bunch of lights and other gimcracks.

I spent some time looking for bastard Mirelurks so I could begin my cat army, but had no luck. Instead I wandered into some Super Mutant encampment and had to deal with a Primus with a minigun

[Yevrah]

[Raoul Duke]

I think I'll have a bit of that this weekend

I've not done much with Spectacle Island, so that'll make a good project.

[Yevrah]

I wish they'd hurry the fuck up with this survival update, I'm itching to get back on this.

[Shindig]

£18 in CeX. They have thousands of copies.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Almost shat myself just now when I met my first deathclaw.

Christ almighty.

Edit: Decided to start again, my skills are all over the shop and I've found a build that I'd like to try.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just got Dogmeat (which I forgot to do last time) and made him get the cryolator for me.

Level 2 with the cryo

[Yevrah]

You cheating fuck.

Can you get any (more) ammo for it at that level?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Haven't found any yet.

But I've only just got back to the museum.

Quite fun bowling about with a mini-gun, laser rifle and a cryolator though.

[Yevrah]

Where'd you get a laser rifle from at level 2?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I picked that up at level 3 or 4.

It was just lying on the floor outside the entrance of the museum.

I didn't even notice it the first time.

Preston Garvey actually called out to me and told me to grab it.

Just checked and it's actual name is a 'Laser musket'.

[Raoul Duke]

That musket is shit, but I stuck with it for a little while. At earlier levels I found the combat shotgun the most useful. Stick a couple of upgrades into it and it's pretty potent.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, I never got on with the Laser Musket either.

It's all about the legendary weapons really.

[Baz]

How'd you get on with the Deathclaw this time?

I honestly don't think I'd have beaten it if it hadn't glitched itself down a hole after about four hours of killing me, after I wasted the minigun ammo and then saved afterwards.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Didn't shit myself, so that was a positive.

I also didn't bother killing off the raiders and waited until it spawned. Despite being better prepared it actually hit me 3 times compared to once the first time.

It did kill off a few raiders though and I have loads of mini gun ammo left.

[Yevrah]

With the Deathclaw, just walk into the building to the right of the tunnel it comes out from and it's too big to get through the door to come after you.

[Raoul Duke]

If you think the Deathblow is bad, just wait until a bit later

Mostly though, hiding in a bus/building is the best way past these things.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jesus fuck.

Was on my way to Diamond City and I came across some radiated trains, went up around them into the forest. Stopped for a second to look at my phone and as I did some great monstrous thing jumped all over me.

Loaded back up and I thought 'I'll fucking smash the cunt this time'.

Found it, lobbed a molotov at it and it laughed at me. I lobbed another whilst running away and in a state of panic I lobbed it pretty much at my feet (maybe this is why Sama kept throwing molotovs at himself in L4D2?) but I managed to stimpak it up. Decided to run back to where it was hiding though as it was a building.

I threw 2 land mines at the front and then shot into the air so it would come into my trap. Two then come running at me so I step further back out of the building. I then think I've won as one is still near the front and the other can't get through the door. So I'm shooting into the head of this prick (I wish I hadn't left my cryo gun at Sanctuary) when all of a sudden the second ambushes me from the side

Fuck stunted yao guai's. What utter wankers.

I actually squealed in the second fight that I prepared myself for

[Yevrah]

What difficulty are you on Mahow?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Normal.

The fucker just wouldn't die and the shotgun I had on me deals fuck all damage.

Edit: Went back with the cryo and shat all over both of them

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just met 'Swan'.

I thought it was some sort of docile mutant swan so I crept up close. Did a sneak attack with a crit and then it emerged.

Jesus fuck, I ran as fast as I could away from the fucker. Although he did throw a rock at me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm currently walking around in Diamond City Guard gear (I found a shootout shortly after getting there and raided some mutant and guard corpses) with a suppressed pipe bolt action pistol which is shit but with the build I'm going it's decent enough, a short light double barrel shotgun and I found a maximum capacity armor piercing automatic pipe rifle which is pretty mental.

Edit: The deliverer is mine

[Raoul Duke]

Swan was what I was alluding to earlier I only managed to beat him by hiding in a bus and firing a rocket launcher at his head.

You need to get into the crafting stuff Mahow. Did you get the Season Pass? Also, probably the best thing you can do early is seek out The Railroad and play through until you can unlock the Ballistic Weave armour mods.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I didn't get one as I wasn't sure the game would be my cup of tea, I need to get one though for sure.

Yeah, as soon as I went to Diamond City I hunted down The Railroad lads. I've just completed the first mission for them as I knew I wanted the gun.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

With the deliverer, the build and Deacon I'm a fucking force.

Can line up 10 shots in VATS and enemies barely even see me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

[Yevrah]

Yeah, you really shouldn't be playing on normal. It's disgracefully easy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah I probably should bump it up.

I even went back to Swan and had him done in about 4 or 5 shots. He didn't even manage to discover me or get off an attack.

It's especially taking the piss with sneak, I've had dogs run right past me and not discover me.