The NFL Thread

**wullie** · 17-04-2016, 09:38 PM

I hope his story about playing a season with a torn MCL is the real reason behind him being awful.

**Gray Fox** · 18-04-2016, 03:24 PM

Ravens sign Trent Richardson.

Good to see him get a chance after he seemingly worked his ass off to get back.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 18-04-2016, 04:24 PM

Sounds like he's on the right track too.

We gave him some targets to meet and he's obviously done that so he's working hard.

**Foe** · 18-04-2016, 06:03 PM

Anyone been on NFL.com and done a mock draft?

http://imgur.com/a/chpJs

Apologies for the horrific photos. I have no idea how to screen shot on a mac.

**Gray Fox** · 18-04-2016, 06:13 PM

I think Bosa goes top 6. Well at least he was going to before the big trade. I don't think he falls to 10 as we'll probably just take best player available, should Elliott not fall to us.

Plus the Giants have just spent mega money on their defense. They need someone to throw the ball to besides Beckham. I see them taking a WR.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 18-04-2016, 06:17 PM

They'll go defense.

Hargreaves will fall to them and they'll snap him up because they still need help in the secondary.

**Foe** · 18-04-2016, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Gray Fox

I think Bosa goes top 6. Well at least he was going to before the big trade. I don't think he falls to 10 as we'll probably just take best player available, should Elliott not fall to us.

Plus the Giants have just spent mega money on their defense. They need someone to throw the ball to besides Beckham. I see them taking a WR.

The draft seems to be loaded with DT talent. I dont really see someone who the Giants would take at 10 as a WR, unless they think Fuller/Treadwell is hugely under rated.

Tried to think outside the box a bit too. It's pretty difficult actually because if you base it on talent rather than need there's just a stuffing of square pegs in round holes, ala the Giants @ 10.

**Foe** · 18-04-2016, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mahow

They'll go defense.

Hargreaves will fall to them and they'll snap him up because they still need help in the secondary.

The Florida teams love drafting Florida players. I don't think he's the number 9 player, but Bortles sure as shit wasn't the third best player either.

**Gray Fox** · 18-04-2016, 06:24 PM

What I find interesting now is what the Browns do. They have RG3 for a year and could benefit from playing the long game. Realistically they must know that they will be in the top 5 for draft picks next year. There's some teams below them this year who are desperate for a QB(49ers, Jets, Broncos and maybe Eagles). Denver wont reach that far up but any of the others could trade up. They could see what the Titans have just got and ask for something a little similar. They'll still be top 5 next year to take a QB incase RG3 doesn't work out too.

**Gray Fox** · 18-04-2016, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Foe

The draft seems to be loaded with DT talent. I dont really see someone who the Giants would take at 10 as a WR, unless they think Fuller/Treadwell is hugely under rated.

Tried to think outside the box a bit too. It's pretty difficult actually because if you base it on talent rather than need there's just a stuffing of square pegs in round holes, ala the Giants @ 10.

True. The trade up has knocked me out of where I expected people going a little bit. If teams just take the best talent available down to them I could see them taking someone like Hargreaves as I'd expect Bosa to still go before them.

To be fair it is actually quite hard to predict the top 10 past pick #2.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 18-04-2016, 06:37 PM

Top 11 is a lock (Jaguars and Niners might swap), the latter half is a bit of a mess other than Texans, Vikings and Bengals.

**Foe** · 18-04-2016, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Gray Fox

True. The trade up has knocked me out of where I expected people going a little bit. If teams just take the best talent available down to them I could see them taking someone like Hargreaves as I'd expect Bosa to still go before them.

To be fair it is actually quite hard to predict the top 10 past pick #2.

It's going to be brilliant because it could play out in so many different ways. There's like 10 or 11 guys you could legitimately plonk in the top 5, at any of the spots.

I'm also of the opinion that if the Rams take the QB they want they'll open the telephones. RG3 could be a starter again, for what is a poor team. If the Browns aren't sold on the QB left at 2, I don't think they take him. They've had too many misses to just take a punt because he's the next best guy.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 18-04-2016, 06:46 PM

I've been hearing today that the Ravens want to try and trade out of the top 10 too which could be a great move.

The more I think about, the more I believe that the team covets Buckner and I don't see the Niners, Eagles, Bucs, Giants, Bears and possibly the Dolphins taking him if he's there.

We've also started chugging out rumours that we're interested in Ezekiel Elliot to try and get a trade done I'd imagine.

**Foe** · 18-04-2016, 06:50 PM

Zeek's going to join Jerry and the gang at 4. They can't keep wasting that offensive line.

If not him, would be interesting to see if they pick up Derrick Henry early in R2.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 18-04-2016, 06:55 PM

They finished ninth in rushing last year with Run DMC, Lance Dumber and Joseph Randle.

They don't need a running back with their line.

Plus you can draft legit runners outside of the first round pretty easily now.

**Gray Fox** · 18-04-2016, 07:53 PM

Took a whack at it, ignoring the draft best available strategy and mixing team needs and who I've like the look of.

I have Goff going to the Rams and Wentz to the Browns. Simply because I don't think the Browns want Goff and will trade it away if Wentz is taken.

**Dan** · 18-04-2016, 10:48 PM

I got REALLY bored & did the first two rounds...

Round 1:

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Round 2:

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Got about halfway through the second round before I was picking people I'd barely heard of. Not 100% sure I've even got the picks right in that round either, actually

It's really interesting to see how wildly pretty much every draft is from the others though.

**bruhnaldo** · 19-04-2016, 03:05 PM

i ran a 7 round mock on the college football board i go to if anyone cares.

mind, this was done before the big trade involving the 1st pick.... but thought i'd share anyways since people are posting mocks.

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**Gray Fox** · 20-04-2016, 06:05 PM

Eagles just traded up to #2.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ck-from-browns

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 20-04-2016, 06:11 PM

Philadelphia will receive a 2017 fourth-round pick along with the No. 2 pick in exchange for five picks. The five picks Philly gave up are the No. 8, No. 77 (third round) and No. 100 (fourth round) selections in this year's draft, along with next year's first-round pick and a second-round pick in 2018.

They must really love Wentz/Goff.

Also, we might end up with Tunsil. Chargers would take Ramsey and the Cowboys and Jags don't need O-Line help.

Christ, if we end up with the best tackle in the draft at number 6 we've done amazingly well.

Tunsil (who I thought we had no chance of getting), Ramsey (hardly any chance of him falling that far) or Buckner please

**Dan** · 20-04-2016, 06:12 PM

Browns will waste all those picks & RG3 will be injured by week three

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 20-04-2016, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dan

Browns will waste all those picks & RG3 will be injured by week three

It's going to be fucking glorious.

I bet Hue Jackson is going to love RG3's 9 and a half inch hands wrapped around his cock

**Gray Fox** · 20-04-2016, 06:16 PM

We gave up a lot, but we must really like what we saw in Wentz or Goff. The latter supposedly had a killer pro day.

I have no idea which one I or we will prefer. Either way this is one excited Eagles fan.

**Gray Fox** · 20-04-2016, 09:41 PM

Panthers have just taken away the Franchise Tag from Josh Norman. He's technically a free agent now. He's going to get seriously paid here.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...on-josh-norman

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 20-04-2016, 09:52 PM

That's huge.

They must surely get some compensation if he gets signed now with no tag? Or maybe it's just a case of them deciding to lower their cap rate by a lot instead of keeping him for a year.

Jags are still over $50m under the cap

so will probably pay him a mountain of cash.

If they do indeed get him and then go for Jack or Bosa their defence would be solid.

**Giggles** · 20-04-2016, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Gray Fox

We gave up a lot, but we must really like what we saw in Wentz or Goff. The latter supposedly had a killer pro day.

I have no idea which one I or we will prefer. Either way this is one excited Eagles fan.

Law of averages is that one of them is going to be shit, so just hope the Rams choose badly.

**Browning** · 20-04-2016, 10:14 PM

So they now have no pick until round 3 next year just to move up 6 spots and get whichever QB the Rams decide is shit?

Idiots.

**Gray Fox** · 22-04-2016, 03:56 PM

Current consensus is that Goff is being taken by the Rams while we will take Wentz. I'm honestly happy to see either even if it will be odd not seeing them play for a year or two.

In Josh Norman news, he's visiting the Redskins today with the 49ers the other team lining him up. I'd love him at Washington. He'd make the NFC East better and watching him and Beckham go at it twice a year would be awesome.

**Browning** · 22-04-2016, 09:11 PM

NFL.com have done a Game of Thrones mock draft now....

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap30...nes-mock-draft

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 23-04-2016, 12:24 AM

5 years, $75m with $50m guaranteed is what the Redskins have paid for Norman.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-with-redskins

I didn't think the Redskins had the cap so thought it would be a shootout between the Jags and Niners.

**Browning** · 23-04-2016, 09:37 AM

They don't, so that'll be interesting.

Still, means that's another big name I get to see at Wembley.

**Ian** · 23-04-2016, 10:37 AM

Aren't big-money free agent cornerbacks notoriously risky? Or am I just thinking of a couple of high-profile relative disappointments (or just making stuff up altogether)?

**Giggles** · 23-04-2016, 10:42 AM

Most Redskins free agents are anyway.

**Ian** · 23-04-2016, 11:53 AM

I never saw this at the time.
http://www.theonion.com/graphic/repo...ice-crea-17976

**Gray Fox** · 23-04-2016, 09:06 PM

Heads up to anyone jersey hunting, the US NFL store has some Elite jerseys(normally $300) reduced down to around $20. Obviously the players on them have all left their teams, but if you don't mind that it's a great way to get a top quality shirt for next to fuck all.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 23-04-2016, 09:13 PM

No Ravens ones

Jerseys with old names are great, I remember once seeing a kid have Sheringham 10 on his shirt. However Sheringham had just left for United so he used marker to cross his name out and write Ferdinand just underneath.

**Gray Fox** · 23-04-2016, 09:34 PM

I wouldn't mind a Murray one. Obviously his time with us wasn't great, but I'm never likely to pay £200+ for a shirt.

**The Bruce** · 25-04-2016, 10:21 AM

The Redskins

Fat Albert Mk II

**Gray Fox** · 25-04-2016, 11:02 AM

Most of those very reduced elite jerseys have gone. Managed to get the black alternate Murray jersey in a size 44. Had i more money, there's another selection knocked down to half price with a Saints Graham jersey included. But either way I got a £200+ jersey for £34.

I think that's me done on NFL gear for a bit. I'll have to wait to see if they have pop up shops at the International Series.

**Gray Fox** · 25-04-2016, 04:02 PM

Brady is banned for 4 games again.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 25-04-2016, 04:09 PM

At the Cardinals and then home games against the Dolphins, Texans and Bills.

They'll lose against Arizona but be fine against the others.

**Gray Fox** · 25-04-2016, 04:46 PM

Shits going down in Philly.

Sam Bradford has supposedly requested a trade from the team.

EDIT: I will say this is mere weeks after us giving him £11m as a signing bonus. He's obviously unhappy at the draft decision but I guess now we have to shift him. (HI Denver

)

**Foe** · 25-04-2016, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Gray Fox

Shits going down in Philly.

Sam Bradford has supposedly requested a trade from the team.

EDIT: I will say this is mere weeks after us giving him £11m as a signing bonus. He's obviously unhappy at the draft decision but I guess now we have to shift him. (HI Denver

)

I really don't understand what the Eagles are doing. Chip kelly dismantled their roster and they've decided to throw away their draft philosophy to presumably pick up yet another qb.

Can understand what bradfords agent will have told him. "They obviously don't rate you long term and expect you to teach your successor. They've tied you down to guaranteed money and have already thrown away draft picks to prevent one of the other qb needing teams to get one of the "top" qbs. They're not going to be able to improve the roster so you'll have some serious shit around you.

The Broncos are still looking for a quarterback and don't stand much chance getting one of the top guys in the draft. We can work this to get you a move to a championship team."

If the Eagles take a qb then that's a horrible position to step into. Hi guys. I have no experience but both of your time here is limited because I'm the second pick in the draft. Teach me how to be a pro.

**Gray Fox** · 25-04-2016, 08:39 PM

It is a little odd to be fair, to sign up a starter and then bring in a back up that the coach obviously thinks highly of. You can only imagine the situation when we signed him was one of being unable to trade up at that point.

I firmly believe the Browns only traded away due to them knowing they wont get the QB they want after the Rams pick. I've said before that Goff moved himself up to the the top of the draft with his by all accounts, outstanding pro day.

This could still work out in our favour. Assuming Denver would be interested we could grab a draft pick back that we just lost.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 25-04-2016, 08:45 PM

I thought they traded down because they believed that the Rams would take Wentz who was their target as Hue Jackson wasn't a fan of Goff.

I think it works well for them though, they can get better in other areas for the long term but still fail enough to grab a QB next year. I've heard that Deshaun Watson and Brad Kaaya are better than Goff/Wentz.

Also, 2017 seems to be the year of the mental names. Looking at some stuff about potential draftees next year and there is JuJu Smith-Schuster, Jabrill Peppers, Tre'Davious White, Adoree Jackson, Malachi Dupre, Nick Chubb (lol), Armani Watts, Raekwon McMillan, Davon Godchaux and many more.

**Gray Fox** · 25-04-2016, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mahow

I thought they traded down because they believed that the Rams would take Wentz who was their target as Hue Jackson wasn't a fan of Goff.

This. The hands size thing(which is ridiculous) is putting them off apparently, which will be the reason they traded.

I watched a couple games of Watson last year. He looks good but I feel he tries to run too much. Then again I've said that about Cam before and he killed it for 99.9% of last season.

**Sir Andy Mahowry** · 26-04-2016, 06:42 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...n-exgirlfriend

A Texas grand jury has indicted ex-Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel on an assault charge after his ex-girlfriend accused him of domestic violence.

The Heisman Trophy winner and former Texas A&M star was indicted Tuesday on a charge of misdemeanor assault related to family violence. The Class A misdemeanor carries up to one year in jail and a $4,000 fine.

I'm so glad.

Also, I've been hearing rumours of the Chargers taking either Buckner or Stanley.

They really are the wildcard in that top 10.

**Gray Fox** · 26-04-2016, 06:56 PM

And goodbye football career. Had his chances so I really have no sympathy.

**Ian** · 26-04-2016, 07:14 PM

When there were some rumours that Denver wanted him (based not so much on us making a real move for him but based on Elway apparently having liked him previously) I was briefly desperate for us to announce the Kaepernick signing just to nip that little fucker in the bud.

A deeply unpleasant young man.

**Dan** · 26-04-2016, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Mahow

Also, I've been hearing rumours of the Chargers taking either Buckner or Stanley.

They really are the wildcard in that top 10.

Yeah, what they do (and to a lesser extent Dallas at 4) will be huge in determining how the top 10-15 picks go. Can see San Diego taking Buckner, Ramsey or Tunsil, and trading down is apparently a possibility too. As for Dallas, Bosa & Elliott are the most likely two, but Ramsey could be an option if the Chargers don't take him, and it's not inconceivable that they trade down either, especially as we're being linked to Paxton Lynch now & we'd probably need to get in ahead of San Francisco to be sure he's still there.

Personally I'd like to see us take a defensive end in R1, and then a DT & Thomas Duarte in the next two rounds, to give us a bit more pass rush & another TE that could do what Jimmy Graham used to do for us. DT would probably depend on where they expect Duarte to go, but even in R3 it's likely than Adolphus Washington, Sheldon Day & Javon Hargrave will be there to pick from.

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