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    Yep, that was cracking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    Yamal opting to shoot rather than run it into the corner at a goal up in the 92nd.
    Just watched the highlights, and this is what immediately sprung to mind. Every Barca player on the team should be giving him a big old slap for this. Houllier turning in his grave.

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    Only watched the highlights as I'm old but wow. Some second half, there's been some fantastic European ties this season. The format has generally worked.

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    Barca feeding the ball to that 17 year old neymar was something...

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    Finally someone seeing some sense...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cvgngqen0jgo

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    You could argue that giving the attacker the edge will cause defences to drop deeper, resulting in fewer goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Finally someone seeing some sense...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cvgngqen0jgo
    That sounds horrendous. Any part of the body in line? So you could theoretically be 2 yards offside if one of your legs is in line.

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    Yeah, no one likes an armpit / toe offside, but that sounds ruinous. Nothing would ever be offside.

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    And we'd have more goals, less stoppages, which is certainly better than the shit show now.

    But if you guys are happy with the status quo I'll ask Arsene to stand down.

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    The only way to do offside well is to actually remove VAR and have the linesman do it with the naked eye. No pissing about with toenails and foreskins then, it's just all done on vibes which is what the fans seem to want.

    I always said 'the correct decision is not important' before we got tech, and I stand by it. Let's just focus on getting refs good with the naked eye.

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    Going to West Brom regularly has been eye opening on this. Linesman are either unfit or unable to keep up with play. It’s mental. They’re always 5 yards behind or in front of the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    And we'd have more goals, less stoppages, which is certainly better than the shit show now.

    But if you guys are happy with the status quo I'll ask Arsene to stand down.
    Wenger didn’t think that was a penalty for inter last night so I’m not sure he’s the man to stand by

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    And we'd have more goals, less stoppages, which is certainly better than the shit show now.

    But if you guys are happy with the status quo I'll ask Arsene to stand down.
    I don't think you would have more goals, the margin would just change from super marginally offside to super marginally not miles offside. Has the VAR era even led to less goals? Doesn't feel like it has. You are never going to stop the pissing around. There would still have to be a line and the difference between off and on would still be as small, you just move the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Wenger didn’t think that was a penalty for inter last night so I’m not sure he’s the man to stand by
    Senility kicking in big time with him lately

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    Arteta seems to have slightly run mad with these comments about the league. They don't even make sense, without even getting into the lolworthiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Arteta seems to have slightly run mad with these comments about the league. They don't even make sense, without even getting into the lolworthiness.
    People getting mad about these comments are so broken brained it's unbelivable.

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    @randomlegend can you send us that BT sports acestream again please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    People getting mad about these comments are so broken brained it's unbelivable.
    Just seems a daft thing to say, particularly at the super serious business sharp end of the football pyramid where there is very little tolerance of humour. Did make for a good comments section though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I don't think you would have more goals, the margin would just change from super marginally offside to super marginally not miles offside.
    You might want to have another think about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    You might want to have another think about that.
    Why?

    There would still be a line where something went from onside to offside.

    The rule wouldn't be applied retrospectively, behaviours would change. It would entirely remove the use of the offside rule as a defensive strategy in all likelihood. Maybe that would be an improvement, but it would be the death of the high line, which has been so bounteous in recent years.

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    The margins we're seeing goals disallowed by now are so small there's simply no way anyone involved knows whether they are onside or playing someone onside in many cases. You could remove a left testicle length from the equation and they still wouldn't know so I can't see how it wouldn't lead to more goals.

    As for VAR not reducing the number of goals, I'd be interested to see the stats, but my gut says that's probably true, but it'll have been padded to fuck by the amount of penalties given.

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    My point was that you will still see extremely marginal decisions wherever you draw the line, there is a point at which you go from being on to off, instead of an overhanging toe one way it just becomes a dragged foot the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    @randomlegend can you send us that BT sports acestream again please?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/acestream_i..._2023_working/

    These are the links I've been using lately; the Google says it's on TNT sports 1.

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    Not sure I can be arsed watching this after last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    My point was that you will still see extremely marginal decisions wherever you draw the line, there is a point at which you go from being on to off, instead of an overhanging toe one way it just becomes a dragged foot the other.
    Which I get, but I can't see how that wouldn't lead to more goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Which I get, but I can't see how that wouldn't lead to more goals.
    So you can only play the current high line because of VAR. from a ‘meta’ sense alone it encourages a constant low block to reduce the space between last man and goalkeeper.

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    Cracking start that.

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    PSG are getting battered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    So you can only play the current high line because of VAR. from a ‘meta’ sense alone it encourages a constant low block to reduce the space between last man and goalkeeper.
    I'm not sure it's enough of a change to encourage that as a new meta.

    Donnarumma is taking the piss here.

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    This start feels like it’s the last few mins of the game with all these long throw ins and lumping the ball in the box

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I'm not sure it's enough of a change to encourage that as a new meta.
    Going from a situation where the attacker being wrong by half a cm results in multiple phases of play being ruled out to a situation where a defender being wrong by half a cm results in the attacker having a 1-3 yard advantage over every phase of play would doubtless change teams setups.

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    Stoke have started well here. But I can’t help but feel they might have scored if they had Kenwyne Jones on the end of one of these long throws.

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    Vitinha looking absolutely tragic so far

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    I swear I've seen Fabien Ruiz score this exact goal about 20 times in the last few years.

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    That's stunning.

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    Oh dear.

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    What a hit son

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    @randomlegend can you send us that BT sports acestream again please?
    Apologies.

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    Got me off the sofa.

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    Looks like it got a deflection.

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    This is tragic from Arsenal.

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    I can't be doing with that gimpy little set piece coach elbowing his way to the touchline whenever Arsenal get a corner.

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    Barcola hesitated, he needed a bit more urgency there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Apologies.

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    These fuckers are so, so bad in front of goal. Barcola misses a one on one every CL fixture

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    As I said.

    What a stop from Rice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I can't be doing with that gimpy little set piece coach elbowing his way to the touchline whenever Arsenal get a corner.
    What does he shout? 'Do that one now please' ? He should be what would be described in F1 as 'back at the factory'.

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    Turns out none of my posts have been going through. 5 minutes before that goal I said Artetas Arsenal have had this exact performance so many times over the last few years. 20 minutes of dominance, if they score then it’s an easy 3-0. If they don’t the opposition will score a worldy and you lose 2-1.

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    He presumably distracts the referee so all of the fouling and obstructions go unnoticed.

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    Genuinely mental the referee just blew up for someone being hit in the belly with the ball

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