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    Murdering the GPU market (More than it already is) is a bold move for a government with a crypto reserve and big hopes about AI.

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    He's absolutely not a fascist or a Nazi, those are both very specific things. He is just Trump, he can be absolutely terrible without having to be the same as those things.

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    He might not be a nazi (he's a fascist) but he's surrounded by people who are.

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    I don't know what the obsession is with "Well ackshually"ing whether he is or isn't technically a Nazi.

    The point is they are doing Nazi-level heinous shit, like grabbing people they don't like off the street and exiling them without due process to hell-hole prisons/death camps in El Salvador. Then refusing to bring them back despite being ordered to buy the Supreme Court.

    Whether he technically fits the definition of a Nazi is a childish distraction.
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    So Nazi to you just means anyone doing very bad things?

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    And I would actually say labelling him a Nazi is the real childish distraction as it’s such an easy thing for him and his brethren to bat away from his following and he keeps winning, so it clearly isn’t doing any good.

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    The "not a Nazi because..." and start to quote extremely specific things brigade are the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    And I would actually say labelling him a Nazi is the real childish distraction as it’s such an easy thing for him and his brethren to bat away from his following and he keeps winning, so it clearly isn’t doing any good.
    I don't see any batting away lol.

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    Why always Nazi? Why not Salazar's Portugal, Suharto's Indonesia, or any of the other myriad states across the last 100 years that have done similar bad things?

    The answer is because Nazis are famous and glamorous, which Trump also is, so all you're doing is playing into his hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Why always Nazi? Why not Salazar's Portugal, Suharto's Indonesia, or any of the other myriad states across the last 100 years that have done similar bad things?

    The answer is because Nazis are famous and glamorous, which Trump also is, so all you're doing is playing into his hands.
    I think it was the salutes m8

    EDIT: Why are you trying to be clever about this?

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    Yeah I'm playing into his hands. The language I use is whats turning 12 thousand voters in the Wisconsin Dells. Fucking nonsense.

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    I think it's the most lazy possible criticism of Trump and also historically illiterate, both of which are bad things and among the reasons shit tons of people vote for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I think it's the most lazy possible criticism of Trump and also historically illiterate, both of which are bad things and among the reasons shit tons of people vote for him.
    Disagree. Just keep it simple and call it out for what it is. There's no nuance here. We can debate whether he's more historically aligned with Salazar or Suharto whilst he marches off home grown journalists and protesters to El Salvador death camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    I don't see any batting away lol.
    Two election victories would suggest otherwise. Including demographics of voters that absolutely wouldn’t be voting for him were he an actual Nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Two election victories would suggest otherwise. Including demographics of voters that absolutely wouldn’t be voting for him were he an actual Nazi.
    That isn't batting away.

    And who is that, then? You mean some blacks and Hispanics?

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    I mean anyone who isn’t a Nazi sympathiser. But if you want to be specific, yes, why would black people vote for an actual Nazi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Two election victories would suggest otherwise. Including demographics of voters that absolutely wouldn’t be voting for him were he an actual Nazi.
    Do you think people who voted for the actual Nazis knew everything that was going to come after? Do you think they voted for the Holocaust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Two election victories would suggest otherwise. Including demographics of voters that absolutely wouldn’t be voting for him were he an actual Nazi.
    Plenty of demographics voted for him despite him making it clear he planned to fuck them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Do you think people who voted for the actual Nazis knew everything that was going to come after? Do you think they voted for the Holocaust?
    They did if they read his book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Do you think people who voted for the actual Nazis knew everything that was going to come after? Do you think they voted for the Holocaust?
    I think Hitler seized power. These dumb yank cunts have given him it lol.

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    Hitler had power given to him. Albeit by Hindenburg, rather than the electorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Do you think people who voted for the actual Nazis knew everything that was going to come after? Do you think they voted for the Holocaust?
    No and no, but do people genuinely think Trump is going to do something on the scale of the Holocaust?

    We know everything the Nazi’s did, why are we calling trump one on the basis of what he might do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Plenty of demographics voted for him despite him making it clear he planned to fuck them.
    Which sort of leads us to the two main arguments against him being people are stupid and he’s a Nazi. Which are both clearly useless as he keeps winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    No and no, but do people genuinely think Trump is going to do something on the scale of the Holocaust?

    We know everything the Nazi’s did, why are we calling trump one on the basis of what he might do?
    You actually sound like a domestic abuse victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    You actually sound like a domestic abuse victim.
    And you sound like a whiny lefty loser that sticks to the same tried and tested lines of failure that keep Trump in the Whitehouse.

    It’s genuinely tragic. One would have thought some form of assessment would have occurred last time and tangibly different actions taken to ensure he never won an election again, but no, people are just doubling down on that failure.

    It’s the lack of pragmatism that sickens me and similar shit is happening here. Is it match fixing? Do the left want these arseholes in power?

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    Are you insane? It's that exact weak-minded bullshit 'pragmatism' people pleasing crap that sees him in power again rather than in fucking jail where he belongs.

    Just come out with it. You agree with him. We all know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post

    Just come out with it. You agree with him. We all know it.
    Your head can’t rationalise any other point of view on the subject other than if it’s pointed toward the person holding said point of view agreeing with Trump on everything he says and does.

    I guess safety in numbers must be of some comfort (with the millions of others like you) as it’s really not a good place to be.

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    I appreciate the effort Yev, but I fear it's being wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    And you sound like a whiny lefty loser that sticks to the same tried and tested lines of failure that keep Trump in the Whitehouse.

    It’s genuinely tragic. One would have thought some form of assessment would have occurred last time and tangibly different actions taken to ensure he never won an election again, but no, people are just doubling down on that failure.

    It’s the lack of pragmatism that sickens me and similar shit is happening here. Is it match fixing? Do the left want these arseholes in power?
    Yeah imagine "whining" about them kidnapping people and sending them to hell/death camps. Can you hear yourself?

    The reason Trump is in power again is precisely because he's pulled the wool over the eyes of absolute dribbling idiots like you enough that you can't see/don't care how dangerous and abhorrent he is. Apathetic morons who didn't vote is what allowed him back in.

    A few weeks ago you were droning on about how he won't actually do anything bad. Now he's doing incredibly bad shit, and it's "yeah but it's not as bad as the holocaust".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I appreciate the effort Yev, but I fear it's being wasted.
    They might as well be a few Man Utd and Liverpool fans arguing at a bar. One extreme or the other but never give any semblance of leeway towards the other side.

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    No leeway is warranted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    No leeway is warranted.
    Of course there is when you're being as dramatic as you're being.

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    They should have just sent him to Guantanamo Bay and we could have filed it under Decency/Grown-Up Government.

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    I mean we all know you're deeply racist so it's hardly surprising you're unbothered whilst it's happening to brown people.

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    Plus I don't live in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Plus I don't live in America.
    Was at giggles.

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    Bat it away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Yeah imagine "whining" about them kidnapping people and sending them to hell/death camps. Can you hear yourself?

    The reason Trump is in power again is precisely because he's pulled the wool over the eyes of absolute dribbling idiots like you enough that you can't see/don't care how dangerous and abhorrent he is. Apathetic morons who didn't vote is what allowed him back in.

    A few weeks ago you were droning on about how he won't actually do anything bad. Now he's doing incredibly bad shit, and it's "yeah but it's not as bad as the holocaust".
    This is Magic shit 2.0. You’re an hysterical mess and playing into exactly what keeps Trump winning.

    That you think he’s pulled the wool over my eyes because I don’t agree entirely with your take (despite consistently agreeing he is far from a force for good) shows you don’t even know who you should be appealing to to stop him winning, let alone what actually makes those people tick.

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    And to put it even clearer, your (and many others) approach is:

    People are idiots
    He’s conned them
    He’s a Nazi

    It.does.not.work. People have heard the same lines for a decade now and they don’t care (in anywhere near enough numbers). It.does.not.work.

    Your best hope is that whatever follows Trump is incompeteence of a level that makes them unprecedentedly bad. And that’s absolutely pathetic.

    Get a grip and sort it out.

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    The state seemingly controlled a lot more under Nazism. Trump's got a lesser grip on power. I suspect he doesn't really want that and prefers to just get by on cult of personality. I'm not sure there's a con on because, for a world leader, he's incredibly indecisive. Didn't he chop and change his staff every few weeks in his first stint?

    All his gameplan has been, "I want to look like I'm doing stuff." Antithetical to the slow nature of politics but the MAGA crowd will eat it up. And then he'll die.

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    He’s been utterly clueless since day 1 nine years ago. Lurching from one recent idea to the next, seemingly based on whomever he last spoke to.

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    They've already had some pushback from the crazies, you;ve got the mong they put in charge of the FBI trying to placate people by saying they really are doing stuff because they didn't arrest Oprah Winfrey and Hillary Clinton on day one. They did the Epstein folders for some internet wankers that had noting in them etc. Of the groups who supported him this time there's the mentals who he simply lied to and is now fobbing off (with the exception of the deportations which tells you everything), the tech wankers who didn;t believe he would do the things he said he would, and the finance idiots who thought they were getting a tax cut but got financial armageddon instead. Quite funny really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    That you think he’s pulled the wool over my eyes because I don’t agree entirely with your take (despite consistently agreeing he is far from a force for good) shows you don’t even know who you should be appealing to to stop him winning, let alone what actually makes those people tick.
    He has pulled the wool over your eyes.

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    We should placate and be nice to the wee Nazis, see if that works xxx

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    In what way? What do you think I think?

    Let’s get it all out.

    @ RL.

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    You tell me mate. You're the one that's saying IT. DOES. NOT. WORK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    In what way? What do you think I think?

    Let’s get it all out.

    @ RL.
    I think you think what you've said you think in your posts. What do you want me to do, quote them back at you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    You tell me mate. You're the one that's saying IT. DOES. NOT. WORK.
    You’re incapable of answering simple questions.

    And I’m not saying it does not work out of thin air, your approach keeps fucking losing elections, to someone that should never be winning them. Maybe contemplate that?

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    So instead of calling out bad things, we should do what, exactly?

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    Close this thread ffs.

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