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    Seems a bit harsh, particularly in a country where Richard Tice is around at least some of the time.

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    Richard Tice doesn't claim to be a punk whilst simultaneously being too scared to have his curtains open because the sight of the trees swaying in the wind is to much for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I was strong armed into watching the yoghurt-knitting bio-doc about Chris Packham and his autism a few years back and he's possibly the worst person in the country. He's an absolute fanny.
    Seems to fancy his step-daughter as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Seems to fancy his step-daughter as well.
    Don’t blame him. She is definitely shameful lustage.

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    Isn't the edge of the purple kingdom there basically the line that the Vikings got up to?

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    "Stats for lefties."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    "Stats for lefties."
    It's literally from a yougov poll. "Stats for lefties" is just an aggregator twitter account. You can click the handle through to the yougov account and see them posting their own poll results.

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    We'd have to go independent if that happened lmao.

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    I think Reform in its current form would be useless in government. Farage is probably less interested than Johnson was in actually doing anything, and he is more than likely surrounded by absolute plebs (unlike very early phase Johnson), so it would be more ineffective government via Telegraph article. Hopefully if they remain in the lead because the Conservative Party stick with Idi Duncan Smith then money will follow Reform and allow them to build some sort of policy unit with a raft of mega stuff ready to go a la Trump.

    Tell you what though Sir Beer Korma finally getting his lockdown comeuppance would make my year.

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    The poll results should at least wake the incumbents up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    It's literally from a yougov poll. "Stats for lefties" is just an aggregator twitter account. You can click the handle through to the yougov account and see them posting their own poll results.
    I just think it's dumb there's an aggregator called that. "Man, I really want statistics that's right for me."

    Still, a minority reform government. That would barely hold on for a week.

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    I know a lot of people really were just anyone but the Tories which has accounted for Labour having such a massive majority. But they have really impressively managed to cock things up since winning power.

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    Events will force Labour to become basically a centre-nationalist government (the very last thing they want to be) and they will win because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Emia View Post
    I know a lot of people really were just anyone but the Tories which has accounted for Labour having such a massive majority. But they have really impressively managed to cock things up since winning power.
    They have, but equally, Free Gear Kier immigrant Farmer Starmer is a bit of a perfect storm, in that his name breeds memes so easily and some shadowy figures out there have been hoarding dirt on him for years, just waiting for him to get in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    "Stats for lefties."
    Followed.

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    Thought you didn't like stats.

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    I don't really understand the need to do voting intentions 5 minutes into a new government except out of boredom.

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    Just seen that 2 Tier Kier has been upgraded to 4 TIER KIER.

    https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-a...covid-13302244

    I'm not sure anyone gives a fuck about lockdown breaches anymore, mind.

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    I think the unspoken implication is he was shagging her.

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    I'm not sure her poor choice in men is of much interest either. Unless there's footage of him kissing her incredibly clumsily, anyway. In which case I look forward to watching him eat Kangaroo bollocks in a year or so.

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    Isn't it an open secret Starmer shags about as does most of Westminster?

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    They still have a bar you can smoke in, that's open all night, right? It must be rampant and wide-rife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Isn't it an open secret Starmer shags about as does most of Westminster?
    It's an open secret he has a lovechild and his wife is a potemkin wife.

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    The little known fact I have on Starmer is that he's the son of a toolmaker.

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    He certainly is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It's an open secret he has a lovechild and his wife is a potemkin wife.
    Is it?

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    “Boydy adds to his dossier”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Is it?
    Surely you're across this one.

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    Stop it.

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    This story about Lammy wanting to open talks on slavery reparations is insane. We won't be paying them, obvs, but why would you even float it or entertain the idea.

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    We HAVE been paying them. What's Foreign Aid otherwise?

    Regardless, Lammy is a deeply stupid person and it's embarrassing that he is representing us in any way.

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    Because he believes in it and will attempt to find a workaround that doesn't involve immediate cash transfers? This is why your 'events' theory is mental by the way. These people are pathological.

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    You can believe in whatever you like, but the black cause is deeply unpopular among non-blacks and he'll get about five minutes into it before he has to be sacked to save Starmer's credibility. It's another world away even from Miliband's treacherous wank, which is already succumbing to events.

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    Slavery reparations, closer ties with Europe, probably across the board failings on improving living standards or public services, are they deliberately trying to gift us a Reform government next time?

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    They're all in on "it's just the economy, they'll stop moaning if they feel better off".

    Several problems there. The main 2 being, they're wrong and that they have no chance of turning the economy around THAT much in 4 and a bit years.

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    Ah the old Joe Biden but number go up strategy, although without doing any of the stuff to make number go up. Perfect.

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    Except for the part where Joe Biden had a great economy where number continued to go up, that's pretty spot on.

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    If Joe Biden had genuinely had a great economy then most 'ordinary' Americans would have voted for him.

    They didn't.

    There is a flaw in number go up, even if number does go up. Trump and the new right aren't going to be the answer, but if everyone else is just going to go around clapping their hands above their head and shouting growth, growth, growth, well, what are the options?

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    Biden won an election comfortably.

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    Growth in US and growth in Europe are completely different animals, they have natural resources and the global reserve currency, a trained monkey could make number go up there, as Trump proved last time and will do again this time. Here you have to be strategic and also extremely pragmatic, something that neither side of politics have adjusted to at all and are still playing the game like it was played when they were student politicians in the 80s and 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    If Joe Biden had genuinely had a great economy then most 'ordinary' Americans would have voted for him.

    They didn't.

    There is a flaw in number go up, even if number does go up. Trump and the new right aren't going to be the answer, but if everyone else is just going to go around clapping their hands above their head and shouting growth, growth, growth, well, what are the options?
    Wasn't Biden only on the ticket once and won?

    Am I being a moron or have you forgotten he wasn't the candidate in the last election?

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    Yeah, was conflating the two, forgot about Harris.

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    As our friend Gary of Economics has taught us, GDP cares not whether there's a billion in the hands of one man, surrounded by the destitute, or a billion divided evenly between the group. They GDP number is the same either way. That's why "number goes up" doesn't work.

    It's also why Reform will probably win the next election and why they will fail miserably. Then, they'll decide pausing migration wasn't enough and the deportations will start, which also won't work.


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    Even framing the interest rate lowering as 'more money in people's pockets' is bollocks if inflation's just going to bump prices up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Yeah, was conflating the two, forgot about Harris.
    Easily done, to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Even framing the interest rate lowering as 'more money in people's pockets' is bollocks if inflation's just going to bump prices up.
    It is based on the fact that most people are on fixed rates. Also that the money banks use for mortgages is based on swap rates which don’t actually correlate that much with what the base rate is doing.

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    I love how 'number go up doesn't work' keeps getting repeated here when the number is not going up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Growth in US and growth in Europe are completely different animals, they have natural resources and the global reserve currency, a trained monkey could make number go up there, as Trump proved last time and will do again this time. Here you have to be strategic and also extremely pragmatic, something that neither side of politics have adjusted to at all and are still playing the game like it was played when they were student politicians in the 80s and 90s.

    True to an extent, but growth mainly requires understanding that it is companies who generate growth nowadays, not government. If you want growth in your precious lands, you need to convince companies that it is a good place to invest, instead of thinking that government can fix every single issue, which you have decades of experience showing that they simply can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    I love how 'number go up doesn't work' keeps getting repeated here when the number is not going up.
    The number has been going up in America and they've just elected the Tronald on an anti-immigration ticket.

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