Apparently BIG ANGE sold him on "the Project". If true, I can only imagine he's a better salesman than he is a manager, because he's somehow keeping the usually trigger happy Daniel Levy on board too.Originally Posted by randomlegend
Maybe he can get a job at Jimmy's gaff when he does finally get thrown to the wolves.
But then why couldn't he do that before when they'd agreed a better deal with Bayern? Why did it take them to agree a more expensive loan with "option" before he would agree? Something doesn't add up.
PSR or some other form of financial chicanery.
What are you even on about.
As an answer to your question?
I dunno, if the agreed deal happens after June 30th, say it is slated for July 1, then it falls into a different PSR year, the loan fee gets paid this year and the rest then amortised [everyone's favourite football term] next/over the contract? There'll be some sort of angle.
Obviously the idea that there is flexibility on the part of one side of a deal but compulsion on the player seems a bit odd.
Assuming perfect knowledge of the before and after deal is probably not sensible. He kept his options open, the options didn't materialise so he went to Spurs?
Did Bayern ever pay them for Kane or is that still owing? Can throw that into the mix as well I guess.
Think the Kane deal was staggered over several millenia iirc
An answer which makes no sense. It was the PLAYER who refused the initial transfer after the clubs had agreed it (as has already been mentioned). You think Tel refused to go to Spurs to try and get the clubs to do a deal which was better for their PSR?
Last edited by randomlegend; 07-02-2025 at 12:42 PM.
I mean, they've doubled his wages, which can't have hurt.
It could be as straight forward as Daniel Levy being unbearable to deal with.
Probably the deal was structured wrong for the player agent under the permanent transfer. It'll be to do with some hanger-on not getting their money in the right order, every football transfer is to do with that.
Yeah that's very possible.
Personally I still think he Tel a get-out where he can decide not to make it permanent. I don't think he can have signed a permanent contract because he's still under contract with Bayern in order to be on loan. When permanent transfers are agreed in advance the player doesn't actually sign their contract until it goes through, no?
City suing the Premier League again.
Now they are shit can we just expel them from existence? Would anyone be bothered?
As a hypothetical, could the other 19 members of the league vote the remaining 1 out? I'm not saying it would ever happen or should, but could it?
Why is Shamorim playing inverted wing backs?
He's a mong. Get Gareth in.
Both managers in this game have absolutely no clue. Just have a naked set of tactics (barely even that in Nistelrooy's case) and fuck who the players and how they're going to fit into it.
Is this left back they've just bought playing right back?
Ugarte fannying around with the ball in the lead up to the goal, top tier.
I know there are mitigating circumstances. But, you’ve got to wonder if this carries on how much longer can he last? As much as the squad is shit after all they have spent there is no fucking way they should be this bad.
Love that bit of stat on commentary that most United fans in the ground haven't actually seen them win as they have left before the late winners in the two home games they have won under Binmanorim.
They should still win here and it would be good to see them be less shit, as odd as that maybe sounds. Can't go wrong with a bit of John Denver.
Watching them piss about at the back is so painful. Why didn't he just stay at Sporting?
His Sporting side was absolute wank as well bar a freak result against City.
And they also had Gyorkeres putting up Jardel numbers.
Mainoo is awful isn't he? How has that happened? 'Mon the big haircut.
Leicester are equally as comically bad as United.
What was he supposed to do? He won them the league and was on to piss it this year too
There he is.
I don't think he should have done anything, but I do wonder at what point in the recruitment process he told the proper football men/the sirs that none of the existing squad were going to be able to function in his vision of football.
Jardel what a geezer
They're all offside.
Was never a freekick either.
Leicester looked incredibly unfit. Ndidi was turning like a class 3 destroyer before he went off.
United with one of the worst performances I've seen all season and still deserved to win.
The squad is shit but that's not Rubes fault.
You can't go all Chelsea on it or you get Chelsea results. You have to at least give him a chance to make his own squad.
Not being willing to adapt his tactics though is the fault of the modern manager. They don't know anything else.
There's something to be said for the fact that some of these players are still going to be in the team next season, so you may as well be using the rest of this season - which is a write-off anyway - as time for them to get used to it. Otherwise you're starting from scratch in the summer.
We were absolutely terrible though. God knows what we were thinking considering selling Garnacho. We must average about 2 goals a week conceded from cut-backs/balls from an opposing WIDE MAN across the box but I struggle to remember a time we have cleanly scored from such a position ourselves. About 10 times a game we get it wide in a relatively threatening position and it goes into the box directly to an opposing player. Whether it's a lack of quality in the delivery or a lack of the right movement in the box, I'm not sure. Both, I expect.
Refereeing was fucking abysmal as usual. About 8 of our players being clearly offside for Maguire's goal topping it off.
You can talk all the shit you want about management decisions but the clearest factor is this teams performances against good teams versus bad teams.
The whole squad is full of cancerous fucks that can only be bothered to do the work against someone they feel equal to in reputation. It's pathetic. If I was in charge I think I'd pay a good 15-20 of the squad to leave on a free and just start again. Absolutely shocking dressing room. The culture is fucked and the only way to fix it is by throwing everyone in the bin.
Either that or you bring in a managerial powerhouse like Steve Bruce.
The thing about Man United is they're not bringing in the right type of characters.
Sir Alex would bring in players who wanted to develop further, who had some fight in them. He might have got the odd one wrong but mainly he was on the ball.
Irwin, Schmeichel, Keane, Cantona, Stam, Vidic, Solskjaer, van Nistelrooy, Rio Ferdinand, Heinze, Rooney, Ronaldo, Carrick, Evra.
Plus the youth team who bounced off those types, because they all wanted to get better together.
I don't see much fight in the United team right now. Just an acceptance of we'll take our wages, and if we win, that's a bonus.
That attitude comes from the top, and Ferguson was running that club from the top at the time. Leading by example. A winner.
Last edited by AJ23; 08-02-2025 at 05:51 AM.
Kleberson. Djemba Djemba.
To be fair I'm not sure how many footballers of that type are out there anymore. All those played the game looking to take responsibility and initiative at least within the bounds of their position. Those qualities are not bred anymore in academies so much as the ability to run hard in the press and be tactically disciplined.
Are Szoboszlai, Gravenberch and Jota from the leading team any more like that list of Ferguson players? Maybe slightly but there's not a lot in it.
How did the linesman miss that many players being offside?
They've probably been told to throw some stinkers in to get everyone back in the VAR boat.
That or it highlights the impossibility, or if not impossibility inherent extreme risk, of applying VAR era defensive tactics to non VAR situations. Did teams hold the insane defensive line in the before times?
Orient have started quite well here pinging balls behind City which is the correct way to play against them. Could be a good game if they keep it up.
Deejay just do it! DEEJAY!
Leyton fucking Orient playing it out from the back. Dear god.
Keeper own goal. Sorry mate.
Such a bad goalkeeper, that guy.
That's getting VAR'd to fuck if it's in the Barclays.
Martin "How does he keep getting commentary gigs" Keown saying that giving the goal as a own goal was unfair on Donley.
How on earth are you blaming the keeper
Just got lobbed from 50 yards by a league one jobber?
Why is Dias just allowed to shove that guy over prior to the freekick being taken? Didn't really look like a six-of-one situation.
Well, that's a pisser. Lucky.
I've complained about this before, but it's more obvious in games like this. The referee taking up a position right in the middle of the pitch (used to be wider). Getting in the way constantly.
Good to see the ref not being conned by every City player going down as if pole axed under even the most marginal of contact.
I'm sure our good friend VAR would have probably had a word to say though.
De Bruyne's the only one with a brain out there for City.
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