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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Emia View Post
    Problem is the Tories way of making it work is just letting loads of Asians in, which regardless of how you voted was definitely not what you wanted.
    What's most frustrating about this, is that we're now stirring up anti-immigrant hatred to ridiculous levels and it's the immigrants we do want - skilled workers - that cop the flak. All because these fucking idiots can't see a world outside of GDP LINE GO UP and the easiest way to achieve that is to open the floodgates to anyone and everyone as long as they're out there consuming shit. Which, of course, is all we could ever want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    So he's doing the tariff stuff but are there any plans for the US to become more self-sufficient in manufacturing, agriculture, etc?
    They've really put every single one of their eggs in the AI basket.

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    Now just waiting for President Xi's tweet announcing that he's sending 10,000 troops to Shanghai port to check for any fentanyl leaving docks.

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    Trump getting conned by Mexico and Canada. The art of the deal indeed.

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    But he's claimed it as a win and also distracted everyone from Musk.

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    Yeah, a quick glance on X, and everyone is claiming "Canada caves"... He can't do anything wrong in their eyes.
    Last edited by John Arne; 04-02-2025 at 09:31 AM.

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    Ecuador joining the party by imposing 27% tariffs on Mexico because why the fuck not. Tariffs are in vogue now.

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    If you like/support Trump he's won, if you don't he hasn't.

    The reality (whatever that is) doesn't really matter.

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    If the tariffs don't happen then at least no one loses. Nothing there to win in this stupid game. You could claim that the US 'won' by forcing the others to tighten their border security (even though it's all obviously a bit performative) I guess, but I cannot see how the US got 'conned' in any way, shape, or form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Ecuador joining the party by imposing 27% tariffs on Mexico because why the fuck not. Tariffs are in vogue now.


    The only response that should merit is a 'who?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    If the tariffs don't happen then at least no one loses. Nothing there to win in this stupid game. You could claim that the US 'won' by forcing the others to tighten their border security (even though it's all obviously a bit performative) I guess, but I cannot see how the US got 'conned' in any way, shape, or form.
    Because they've got Trump to back down on his threats by promising to do stuff they were either already doing or had already agreed to do.

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    Link to where Mexico and/or Canada committed to deploying 10k soldiers to their respective borders before yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Link to where Mexico and/or Canada committed to deploying 10k soldiers to their respective borders before yesterday?
    Mexico, 2021:

    https://apnews.com/article/guatemala...71da207d34c8cc

    According to White House press secretary Jen Psaki, Mexico will maintain a deployment of about 10,000 troops,
    Canada, December 2024:

    https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safe...on-system.html

    Backed by an investment of $1.3 billion
    Which is the same plan as they've sold to Trump to stop the tariffs:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87d5rlee52o

    Trudeau said Canada was implementing a $1.3bn (£1bn) border plan that included nearly 10,000 frontline workers and more resources to halt the flow of fentanyl, a synthetic drug 50 times stronger than heroin, which Trump has cited as a major concern.

    ...

    Much of the border security plan had already been announced by Canada in December.

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    “Tariff,” Donald Trump has said many times, “is the most beautiful word in the dictionary.”


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    So he made them expedite their promises. WIN.

    This is basically it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    If you like/support Trump he's won, if you don't he hasn't.

    The reality (whatever that is) doesn't really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    “Tariff,” Donald Trump has said many times, “is the most beautiful word in the dictionary.”

    See you in a month for round 2 lol.

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    Did he? Link to where Mexico and/or Canada committed to expediting anything.

    This is Trump's grift. Invent a crisis. Find some way of selling to complete morons that you've solved the crisis you invented. Profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    This is Trump's grift. Invent a crisis. Find some way of selling to complete morons that you've solved the crisis you invented. Profit.
    This is true. Yet certain people always panic like if the world will end tomorrow.

    For me, anything that leads to 'not tariffs' is good. If what the other countries need to do is 'nothing,' even better.

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    The shit he's letting Musk do is not remotely the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Did he? Link to where Mexico and/or Canada committed to expediting anything.

    This is Trump's grift. Invent a crisis. Find some way of selling to complete morons that you've solved the crisis you invented. Profit.
    Correct. And yet you've spent the last week or so shitting yourself about the rise of the Fourth Reich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    The shit he's letting Musk do is not remotely the same.
    So far nothing has happened, but in theory he is letting Musk reduce the federal government. Trump is the head of the federal government. Maybe if federal bureaucrats didn't spend his last term being very proud about ignoring his orders this wouldn't be happening. I would prefer if they cut regulations instead of firing people, personally. Firing bureaucrats but keeping the same regulations will just make processes even slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Correct. And yet you've spent the last week or so shitting yourself about the rise of the Fourth Reich.
    Not over the stupid tariffs. That's just his opportunity to masturbate in front of his idiot supporters.

    There's no point arguing about it. You're all completely entrenched in the idea that a government overthrowing democracy in a country like America can't happen these days. You'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    So far nothing has happened, but in theory he is letting Musk reduce the federal government. Trump is the head of the federal government. Maybe if federal bureaucrats didn't spend his last term being very proud about ignoring his orders this wouldn't be happening. I would prefer if they cut regulations instead of firing people, personally. Firing bureaucrats but keeping the same regulations will just make processes even slower.
    Lots has happened, you just desperately rationalise it away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    You're all completely entrenched in the idea that a government overthrowing democracy in a country like America can't happen these days. You'll see.
    Good that they all own guns and are therefore prepared for such an event. The founding fathers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    There's no point arguing about it. You're all completely entrenched in the idea that a government overthrowing democracy in a country like America can't happen these days. You'll see.
    Out of interest, what do you think will happen?

    And for what it's worth, I absolutely think a government could overthrow a democracy in the Western World and there's probably never been an easier time (in modern history at any rate) to do it and succeed.

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    Oh and the latest Hollywood meltdown.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crr0x4qxxvko

    When will these people realise that nobody bar those who already agree with them give a shit what they think?

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    Hey man, his wife teaches disability justice in New York!

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    This guy is very knowledgeable on the workings of the US financial system and usually very impartial so if he's having a panic attack about musk then it's probably worth paying attention.

    Elon Musk’s Effort to Control the Treasury Payment System Is Dangerous https://search.app/ihWNGjFStbBvjdX57

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    The man that passes judgement on every news source going just posted a RollingStone article.

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    Got that news like Jagger.

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    The idea that government experience is a thing.

    One of them quit a seven figure job to do it FFS.

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    The youngest of Musk’s crew, Coristine, is still in college, according to reports, and is the heir to his father’s popcorn brand Lesser Evil.

    Lol. Perfect.

    Edit: obviously it was acquired by an evil bond trading capitalist who is going to give it to his son.
    Last edited by Magic; 04-02-2025 at 06:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    The man that passes judgement on every news source going just posted a RollingStone article.
    It's the author not the venue ignoramus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    The idea that government experience is a thing.
    No government experience probably the main requirement for someone in charge of slashing budgets. Any lifetime bureaucrat will tell you that of course every single dollar given to every single program is absolutely required and they, if anything, are all severely underfunded.

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    The trillion dollar question: will the military lose any funding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    One of them quit a seven figure job to do it FFS.
    You cannot be this irredeemably fucking stupid.

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    Running a thing for the good of society and the public is absolutely polar opposite of running a thing for corporate profit.

    I hope they all die in a private yacht incident.

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    They'll be running a thing directly into their own bank accounts.

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    Yes they are, he's already said he wants everything in the private sector. The only aim of this is destruction.

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    Anarchists.

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    Let's not pretend those lads aren't clever. Luke Farritor sounds smarter than everybody he is sacking combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Let's not pretend those lads aren't clever. Luke Farritor sounds smarter than everybody he is sacking combined.
    Being clever is probably what they mean by unconventional.

    Senior Democrats, academics, economists and political commentators have sounded the alarm over the unconventional hires

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    If they're clever they must be super autists.

    I think anyone that is autistic is a cunt so should probably be chucked in the chambers for the sake of society.

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    Shouldn't be too hard for China to honeypot the nerds anyway.

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    Whether they are clever or not is entirely irrelevant. I'm sure they are very clever.

    What is "" is that the United States has handed the keys to it's entire purse and enormous amounts it's citizens' most sensitive data to a bunch of unvetted tech bros with no security clearance and no oversight under the instruction of Elon fucking Musk.

    They've already hooked it up to their own commercial server so all of that data is now compromised, forever.

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    Proper envious really. I would do that job for free.

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    Didn't musk say he would put the most wasteful departments on Twitter and then we could vote on them or something like that? I hope he does. Might even get an account for it.

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    I would say that's too high stakes to let it go to a public vote but we vote in world leaders all the time.

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