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Thread: January Football: it's just the way we play, mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    On that subject.



    Everyone has probably lost count of how many times they have said it but fucking hell he is a weirdo.

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    I'm sure Ortega was the 'second best goalkeeper in the league' behind Ederson, natch, or somesuch at some point? Maybe it was best second choice? Anyway, I can only assume he's gone off the cliff due to adopting the Spanish naming protocol on the back of his shirt.

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    Speaking of Ederson, why isn't he playing him? Is there something wrong with him, or is this Guardiola trying to prove a point?

    As for our game, I've seen the highlights and it seems to paint the picture of us again being shite in the first half but dominating the 2nd. Sels putting on something of an FM'ing by the end. I would have taken a point before the game so I'm not too unhappy with the result.

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    If it's true that we've turned down 70m for Darwin "Darwin" Nunez then everybody at the club needs beating over the head with a spade.

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    Also - and this is probably a bland point for those who go to games a lot - but I haven't been to much PL since say the pandemic, and my god it's a different game to watch live now that the goal kicks all go backwards. It all looks so much more pre-programmed. Each team has maybe one or two players who have licence to think for themselves, the rest are just pressing and cut inside drones. I'm not saying there isn't a beauty in trying to break the press, but that's literally all they do. Brentford did so in a much more direct and therefore varied way and were therefore much the better team to watch.

    Back in the day when I used to go a lot (pre-2012, let's say) sure there would be a tactic or a system, but the players would all be making it up as they went along to some degree. Absolutely not the case anymore.

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    100% agree, watching Brighton, if they can't pass the ball sideways from the goalkeeper then they have literally no idea what to do and the game almost grinds to a halt. It's bizarre to watch when teams, it was Brentford last time, don't press them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Also - and this is probably a bland point for those who go to games a lot - but I haven't been to much PL since say the pandemic, and my god it's a different game to watch live now that the goal kicks all go backwards. It all looks so much more pre-programmed. Each team has maybe one or two players who have licence to think for themselves, the rest are just pressing and cut inside drones. I'm not saying there isn't a beauty in trying to break the press, but that's literally all they do. Brentford did so in a much more direct and therefore varied way and were therefore much the better team to watch.

    Back in the day when I used to go a lot (pre-2012, let's say) sure there would be a tactic or a system, but the players would all be making it up as they went along to some degree. Absolutely not the case anymore.
    This combined with VAR has really killed my interest in the sport.

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    I think people have underestimated VAR to this extent, too. Watching a game without VAR now is so, so refreshing.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/c4g9l45ppzqt

    This has got to be one of the best footballer names ever:

    The newly promoted side took the lead through a brilliant finish from Shuto Machino into the top corner after 27 minutes.

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    If he's not an FM legend then that game is ruined beyond repair.

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    Instantly made me think of this. That link is supposed to start at 55 seconds.
    Last edited by Danny; 15-01-2025 at 02:20 PM.

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    Arsenal scoring from a corner? Woah!

    And of course it’s baldy with the whistle missing the obvious double deflection for the corner

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    Terrible defending for that second. Two of them just jogging along with even thinking about closing him down.

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    Say the line, Bart!

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    Seen poppadoms with higher resistance than the keepers wrists

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    This is about the 4th time you've made the same post.
    You're mistaken. Or a liar.

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    If you get a backpass and clearly bat it down with your own hand isn't that a penalty?

    edit: Oh it would be an indirect free kick no?

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    Nah, it would be an indirect freekick for a handled/picked up back pass. Unless it's not the goalkeeper doing it.

    But there are also other weird rules about back passes that are never enforced - ie something like if you head it back to the goalkeeper, but the pass you headed it from was played by one of your own players then it still counts as a back pass, I think.

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    I don't have much reason to look at the bottom half of the table. Southampton have 6 points? Fucking hell.

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    Derby's record is under threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Nah, it would be an indirect freekick for a handled/picked up back pass. Unless it's not the goalkeeper doing it.

    But there are also other weird rules about back passes that are never enforced - ie something like if you head it back to the goalkeeper, but the pass you headed it from was played by one of your own players then it still counts as a back pass, I think.
    I wish that was a rule but I’m not so sure unless FIFA (or whatever it’s called now) don’t enforce it on their games. Nothing worse than someone time wasting by chipping it from their defender and then heading it back to the keeper

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    I interpret that to be the case from this rule:

    An indirect free kick is awarded if a player:

    initiates a deliberate trick for the ball to be passed (including from a free kick or goal kick) to the goalkeeper with the head, chest, knee etc. to circumvent the Law, whether or not the goalkeeper touches the ball with the hands; the goalkeeper is penalised if responsible for initiating the deliberate trick
    Now, on the face of it you could say this is just to stop players flicking it up to themselves and then heading it, but the inclusion of the free kick and goal kick bits surely allow for another player to be 'initiating the trick' otherwise those would both just be offences of kicking a free kick twice or whatever. I have no idea though and I doubt it has ever been enforced in the way I describe. Or does it mean you can't get down Vialli style and header a free kick to the goalkeeper? Which seems an even more bizarre interpretation as there would be literally no reason to do that or legislate for someone doing that. Also, deliberate trick is obviously a high enough bar that it would never actually be provably intentional.
    Last edited by niko_cee; 15-01-2025 at 10:20 PM.

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    And people say football has lost what it’s alll about when we can have discussions like this after a north London derby.

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    Surely only an actual sadist would have watched that game.

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    I've had a sudden epiphany about attendances recently. 29,766 watched Leicester lose 2-0 at home to Palace tonight. 28,242 saw them beat QPR 6-2 on Saturday and progress in the cup at the same venue. Why? The missing 1,524 need banning orders.

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    There’ll be massive discounts on the cup ticket prices so in reality you’re looking for a lot more than 1,500 people.

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    Someone I work with took his lad to that cup game. Said it was no bother getting a ticket. Maybe all the fog at the weekend didn't help?

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    I think the cup attendance is perfectly explicable, I just don't get why there are more people for a dismal midweek league game as they slide towards doom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I think the cup attendance is perfectly explicable, I just don't get why there are more people for a dismal midweek league game as they slide towards doom.
    Season tickets are included even if they don't turn up and cup games aren't included in the season ticket.

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    That is spectacular

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    These two games just sound like the death of football.

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    Just checking how close they are to the bottom 3...

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    United are BACK.

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    It's all absolutely rotten isn't it. If it wasn't for the vestigial respect teams still hold for them they'd be going down.

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    Yeny Loro may not recover from this.

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    Antony with an elite pass back to Ramsdale under pressure.

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    That smallbone looks like Russian spy that was poisoned back in the day

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    Amad keeping them up by himself.

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    Diallo is a King.

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    Bro is him.

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    Some implosion from Southampton this.

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    Come at us now haters.

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    Haaland has signed a 9.5 year contract at City, which has removed all the exit clauses he got into the last one.

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    Well if anyone thought there was still any possibility the Premier League would relegate them, there's your confirmation.

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    Got my first watch of him live the other day, he really is one of a kind. He didn't do anything particularly great in this game but the physicality and general menace of him is so far above other forwards.

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