Woof that was bad.
Woof that was bad.
If Gunther actually turns face I will riot.
He's in danger of turning himself by being so good. Agreed he needs to do something despicable to stop that happening.
Love that they made the piledriver mean something.
Making a big deal out of my finisher.
@Baz took hundreds of them growing up, I’m pretty sure it was always safely too. Unlike The Reid’s DDT.
Anyone seen the video of the indie goon ‘coke-Kane’?
Sure Tony will sign him up
It's actually "CoKane".
It's so fucking stupid yet weirdly funny.
So indy.
Baz absolutely didn't take them safely...Originally Posted by Mike
Edit: Speaking of unsafe finishers. My Mum BANNED me from watching wrestling for a while because I hit a Tombstone on a friend's brother. I had done it many times before safely but the one time he slipped and his head hit the floor I get in trouble.
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They can never make me hate this company.
I do love some 80s wrestling like.
Speaking of 80s stuff, I've had Raw, SD and NXT pop up on Netflix as coming soon, is it just those shows or is the network shutting down and everything moving over as a whole? I was getting deep into Midsouth but their app made it impossible to navigate so I gave up.
The way they've made it sound is that The Network is no more and everything moves to Netflix.
The WWE Vault youtube channel seems to be whacking up plenty of stuff.
Going to stick a new ‘user’ on mine for WWE stuff so it hopefully doesn’t full up Netflix, if they do just move everything over.
Yep. I've been steadily going through all the WWF/WCW big events from 1988 onwards on the back of something on there.
Starrcade 1990 is next for me which is the blowoff of the Black Scorpion! WCW was generally great from 1988 until early 1990. Then Ole Anderson took over as booker and it's cringey insanity since.
Mid South for a time was arguably the best wrestling TV there's ever been. Crazy how Bill Watts went from booking genius in the mid 80s, to stuck in the past come his 1992 stint in WCW. The rise of PPV while he was on hiatus killed his philosophy because he couldn't/wouldn't adapt.
I'm up to 1985 where Hercules is a sheik for some reason and Ric Flair has just started to appear which is exciting, but I imagine a lot of the names start to disappear off to the WWF from around now. Seeing Nord the Barbarian batter everyone including young Shawn Michaels is a curious highlight, he could have been a big deal in different circumstances.
1984 was definitely the best. It's more hit and miss after 1985 as guys leave as you said, but the likes of Duggan and DiBiase keep it entertaining into the UWF era in 1986-87 (then it's sold to Crockett).
To be fair even in 1992 WCW there's some great stuff. Like I said before there was a shelf life to his run because he still prioritised house shows and didn't favour the PPVs, stopped top rope moves etc. etc., but there's some great shit in there too and if you've already seen Mid South then you'll be all Marty McFly "hey I've seen this one!" but in a good way (Beach Blast 1992 is classic Bill Watts).
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Pivoting from one promotion that hardly sees airtime in this thread to another, I've got my hands on Meltzer's obituary of Antonio Inoki. Meltzer is a goof but his obituaries are pretty much always outstanding.
Anyway Inoki's is like 40 pages long and I've just got to the point where the Gulf War is in full swing and Saddam has taken a few Japanese hostage. Inoki, fancying himself as a top politician, thinks he can sort it out and barrels into Iraq with an entourage to get the hostages out. AND IT FUCKING WORKED! So he gets the hostages freed and in exchange puts on a New Japan show in the centre of Baghdad with all the top guys involved, along with AMERICANS on the card. So on one hand you've got Operation Desert Storm on the go, then on the other side of the street you've got Inoki in enemy territory doing a wrestling show with Americans and he gets them in and out of the country without any issues. The man is absolutely insane.
Also the story of how he managed to book his fight with Muhammed Ali in 1976 is mental too.
I've not really been following WWE lately, but I've just seen the recent promos hyping Survivor Series.
So Sami Zayn is back on the OG team, but I see there is a surprise 5th man on each team. Is it just going to be Hikuleo and Rollins, or have I missed something that would make it better than that?
The best solution is Cena and Rick.
Miz and R-Truth on each side, make it happen H
They seem to be taping a lot of episodes these days. Spoilers galore. Roll on netflix
I've read that Hikuleo is NXT bound.
It seems the new Bloodline have their fifth member as the next RAW has been taped.
Just do a 4v4.
Surely there's a Sami heel turn coming?
I doubt they end this bloodline thing now when they could spin it out to Mania once more. It also doesnt really make sense to continue on if Solo wins clean again.
I reckon a helluva kick to Jey would cement that turn nicely.
Now is the time to set up Mania matches so I guess so. And if anyone is able to drag a watchable match out of Jey Uso and put him over huge, then it's Sami.
And if all your babyfaces are going to win at Mania, you have the heels win here.
Jade Cargill in Wargames? lol.
Phonics will lol at me for being ancient but WarGames peaked in WCW in 1991 and 1992. 1991 is great fun watching Sid wreck Brian Pillman, then 1992 is the outright best. I'm shocked the WWE Vault channel on YouTube hasn't uploaded them yet.
This new watered down WWE version does absolutely nothing for the concept. Maybe Jacob Fatu will change that. Although having two in one night doesn't help at all from a fan perspective.
I can share that I watched an episode of WCW and enjoyed it but probably not for the reasons WCW would want me to. It's an episode of Thunder where it's Kevin Nash's last night as booker before Russo comes in and Nash is on commentary all night and just ribbing and undermining and talking shit about the entire product. If you watch it on mute it's one of the worst shows of all time but Kevin Nash makes it.
October 14th 1999 - Wcw Thunder if you're interested.
Yeah that's hilarious. Nash is a hero.
They've confirmed today The Network will shut down on 1st January and Netflix becomes the "new home of WWE content."
Only selected historical stuff so not a full transfer which is a shame, hopefully they'll just shift all of that on to their Vault youtube thing instead.
Having the full catalogue on Netflix is pretty much the only thing that could get me to resubscribe I reckon.
It is a proper bargain for UK fans for the wrestling alone since you get all the PPVs as well
The ending to Smackdown was tremendous. Punk has been “gone” about three weeks and they still manage to make his “return” huge.
Not sure Heyman expected a pop like that either
Yeah that was class.
Gotta give it to WWE being put in a situation where they get called racist enough that. Jade Cargill would have to wrestle for an extended period of time and writing their way round it is good stuff.
You’re going to have to clue us up on this one.
Cargill is a superstar but the biggest issue is she can’t wrestle. I think it was the last PPV that someone pointed out it had been like nearly 18 months since a black wrestler was on a PPV card so they gave Bel Air and Cargill hosting duties to quieten that down. Now Cargill was supposed to be WARGAMES so someone hit her with a car.
All this racism stuff started being spouted because HHH was smart enough to realise pushing a 50 year old Lashley wasn’t the smartest move
She wasn't hit by a car.
On the subject of Lashley, one thing with old school WWE guys coming into AEW has shocked me is the sheer size difference. Billy Gunn vs the roster was the first impact but Shelton Benjamin coming in has blown my mind. He was post my era of watching WWE but from what I remember his look was kind of middle tier and you put him in AEW and it's like watching The Great Khali if he could wrestle.
I know you won't but check his match vs Kommander. A truly great big vs little man match.
BIG JUSTICE JUST SPEARED QT MARSHALL BAH GAWD. Supremely dumb wrestling. Love it.
The size thing is very old school WWE. I remember Shelty B always looking smaller too, but then you remember there was a roid freak in charge who loved his big meaty men being at the top. Case in point was Triple H back in the day campaigning to Vince that Kurt Angle was only 6ft tall and therefore was too small of a guy to be at the top of the card. Pat Patterson overheard Trips saying this and said if he's so small, go challenge him to a real wrestling match.
The best non-WWE guys in the world all come in at or around 6ft bang on. Omega, Ospreay, Daniel Bryan, MJF, Swerve and so on, all around that mark. Also probably goes a long way to show why the in-ring stuff is a lot more sports entertainment in the dub, with it being of better quality in AEW. But for a few exceptions(Gunther/Walter being the big one I think of) it's harder to get a consistent good match out of a big guy.
That’s why I reccomend the kommander v shelton match. You could run that exact match at every house show for years. It’s a perfect big man v high flyer match.
Also to your first point, colour me shocked that HHH was trying to bury his competition in the back and politicking.
How the mighty have fallen
QT Marshall has never been mighty.
They have to do something about the lenses or the colour grading they’re using. Everyone is bright yellow. It’s like watching a live action Simpsons episode.
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