News of the day

[Magic]

Loving the Muslim riots now. Let's go boiiissss.

[Giggles]

Loving the Muslim riots now. Let's go boiiissss.

And everyone breaking their necks to not report on it.

[Kikó]

Except the ones that are that is.

[Giggles]

Someone on Sky must have been hammering the big red button yesterday to cut off a report when the armed muzzers were arriving on the scene. Can't have the public seeing things like that.

[Magic]

Someone on Sky must have been hammering the big red button yesterday to cut off a report when the armed muzzers were arriving on the scene. Can't have the public seeing things like that.

The guy was profaning like a mother.

[Shindig]

Durham’s turn tonight.

[Magic]

Durham’s turn tonight.

Ah fuck, really? Such a great little place too.

[Lofty]

'I just make memes'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77llj41mxjo.amp

[Jimmy Floyd]

He just means that Adrian Durham is joining the rioters.

[Spikey M]

'I just make memes'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77llj41mxjo.amp

He was another local celebrity - yes, they're all dodgy - going by Man Behaving Dadly or something like that. He could be found standing around looking smug at every local event for a few years. It hadn't occurred to me that he had dissappeared, but lol at him anyway.

[Lofty]

Not mentioned in the article but he kept doing smug gofundme campaigns for charity, we're talking 3 or 4 on the go at the same time, but he flew too close to the sun when he tried to do one for the sub postmasters on the back of the Horizon scandal and was challenged about setting up without their consent, when they already had a campaign, and shat his undies so badly he deleted his Twitter never to return

[Raoul Duke]

The scam will come out when they track down the bird who authorised the payments. Nailed on that he's having an affair with her or something

[Lewis]

'I just make memes'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77llj41mxjo.amp

Mr Harris, who describes himself as a social media content creator, told the BBC he was first approached in 2018 by Kirsty O’Callaghan, the then head of strengthening communities, over doing work for the authority to improve its engagement online.

That manages to cover a lot of where the country has gone wrong.

[Spikey M]

That manages to cover a lot of where the country has gone wrong.

He's exactly the type you'd expect them to hire for it too. A middle class twerp, virtue signalling to Facebook Mums, regularly getting it wrong and having to apologise for doing so. Geezer has never had an original or independent thought in his life.

[Dquincy]

When I lived in Southend we had a Mosque at the top of our road. Every year, on Eid the utter bastards would turn up in a mob and go door to door with sweets, colouring books and toys for the local kids. They then had the absolute cheek to host a foodbank every Friday.

In this scenario and geographical location, the Muslim community is the minority. This is not comparable to the scenario I was talking about.

Multi faith society is clearly unavoidable and beneficial, in most circumstances. But it is important to ensure they remain a minority in comparison to the heritage (and majority) faith of that county. Otherwise you get shit like this happening.

[Dquincy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ejjxv3qeqo

Getting eaten by a croc must be a shitty way to go.

[Dquincy]

Water firms to be punished for years of sewage leaks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypp032le0o

It's good that they are finally starting to be held accountable, but bad they probably will just up customer bills to pay for the fines.

In summary, nothing will change.

[Shindig]

Nowt happened in Durham. People got told to disperse. One 15 year old got arrested.

[Magic]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-riots.html
@Yevrah

[Yevrah]

75% of people strongly oppose the unrest and a further 10% somewhat oppose it. Thanks for providing further evidence that Britain is not a racist country*.

*EDIT: No more racist than anywhere else. Which let's not forget is what we started arguing about in the first place.

[Yevrah]

You did read past the headline and understand how low one in 14 people is right?

[Lewis]

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'We asked the Muslims if they were going to behave whilst we policed the English people...'

[Yevrah]

Am I missing something? I haven't seen much evidence of the 'English' people being policed?

[Yevrah]

Stand there, let it happen and review camera footage to make arrests afterwards seems to have been the approach since this kicked off.

[Lewis]

He is saying that they discussed their policing beforehand with 'our communities' (Muslims) who informed them that there was nothing to worry about and could police themselves, and then some of them turned up with weapons and masks and caused trouble, which they weren't around to do anything about as it was happening. Do they do that with any other groups?

[Yevrah]

Oh, so the police didn't even show up? Ok, that is problematic.

[Lofty]

He is saying that they discussed their policing beforehand with 'our communities' (Muslims) who informed them that there was nothing to worry about and could police themselves, and then some of them turned up with weapons and masks and caused trouble, which they weren't around to do anything about as it was happening. Do they do that with any other groups?

Almost like their resources had been tied up by the noble freedumb fighturs

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn47798gxx4o

Elon Musk's X/Twitter is suing a group of major companies, alleging that they unlawfully conspired to boycott the site.

It accuses the food giants Unilever and Mars, private healthcare company CVS Health, and renewable energy firm Orsted - along with a trade association called the World Federation of Advertisers (WFA) - of depriving it of "billions of dollars" in advertising revenue.

[Spikey M]

He's just a text book example of a thick cunt surrounded by brilliant people.

[Lofty]

He literally is the most pathetic rich guy ever. The Lotto Lout makes Musk look like fucking Craig from Corrie.

[Yevrah]

He really isn't, he's clearly very bright, albeit with a penchant for winding people up. I don't know why he's doing that (maybe it can be filed under winding people up), but then my knowledge of high stakes corporate law suits and the reasoning behind them would fill a postage stamp.

[Dark Soldier]

Nah mate he's a fucking weird thick cunt.

[-james-]

I can't imagine it's possible to be someone like Elon Musk without being quite fucking weird and a bit of a megalomaniac. No thick cunt is coming up with SpaceX and Neuralink and putting them into action successfully.

[Dark Soldier]

"Hi guys I have 500 billion and I want robot people and boomerang rockets here's the money I'm gonna be racist on Twitter" - not hard really.

[Lofty]

Yeah don't overestimate the power of being rich and paying engineers to work it out for you.

[Spikey M]

I can't imagine it's possible to be someone like Elon Musk without being quite fucking weird and a bit of a megalomaniac. No thick cunt is coming up with SpaceX and Neuralink and putting them into action successfully.

He's Steve Jobs. He owns all the cool shit, but he doesn't actually make any of it. He dreams it up and chucks money at the brilliant people around him to make it happen.

He has a fuck tonne of luck chucked in too, because I would fully back him to bankrupt himself if one of his ideas was unworkable.

[phonics]

I can't imagine it's possible to be someone like Elon Musk without being quite fucking weird and a bit of a megalomaniac. No thick cunt is coming up with SpaceX and Neuralink and putting them into action successfully.

He didn't come up with SpaceX or Tesla, he just bought them.

[Yevrah]

He's Steve Jobs. He owns all the cool shit, but he doesn't actually make any of it. He dreams it up and chucks money at the brilliant people around him to make it happen.

Well that makes him smart and good at what he does. It's a skill in and of itself to suss out who the right people are and just chucking money at people isn't enough to guarantee that.

Is it a jealously thing? In that it makes people feel much more comfortable about their own inadequacies if they can, in their own minds, badge it all as luck.

[-james-]

He invested in Tesla 20 years ago and now they're fucking everywhere. Obviously luck plays a part but in business terms he's done pretty well I think.

I think my main point is he's a billionaire who's into space exploration, electric cars and cyborgs. Let him cook imo.

[Yevrah]

And give me someone's political leaning and I can almost guarantee you what they think of Musk before I've even asked the question, which is also odd.

[wullie]

He would have had people thinking he was Tony Stark if only he'd shut the fuck up about woke mind viruses or didn't make a Twitter AI thing just to tell people he's funny.

[Dark Soldier]

Is it a jealously thing? In that it makes people feel much more comfortable about their own inadequacies if they can, in their own minds, badge it all as luck.

No, he's just a monumental bell who needs his own community notes team to check his own fucking posts, and literally asks them in tweets. Dude is incapable of checking if something is factual or having a single original idea before blurting it out to millions. I used to actually like the dude, found him a decent laugh but fuck me man money + company does not equal intelligence. He's an absolute fucking simpleton. Chuck enough dollar at anything when you've basically an unlimited supply and it'll kick into place. He's great at marketing however, crypto bros absolute slurp him dry. His own fucking daughter despises him.

By your logic hate/critique of any wealthy or successful person is jealousy and even you know that's fucking stupid lad.

[phonics]

He is if Reddit is a human being. He's always been cringe as fuck.

[Spikey M]

Well that makes him smart and good at what he does. It's a skill in and of itself to suss out who the right people are and just chucking money at people isn't enough to guarantee that.

Is it a jealously thing? In that it makes people feel much more comfortable about their own inadequacies if they can, in their own minds, badge it all as luck.

Jealous? Absolutely, but no, that's not what it is. He is one of many Billionaires, and while I'm sure most of them are horrible people that the world would be better without, I don't think Bezos, Buffett and Gates are where they are because of luck.

If you gave me £10 million I couldn't do what any of them have done. Could I do what Musk has done? I could try. It probably wouldn't work, and I'd likely end up with nothing. Because that's what happens with most start ups / takeovers and that's where his luck comes in. He's not the first rich man to tell a bunch of scientists to make something happen and throw cash at them while basically having no idea what's going on.

[randomlegend]

All the accounts of Musk from people who've worked for him are that he's a genuine retard. Hence absolute trash like the Cyber Truck.

[-james-]

I don't know about Buffett, but if I were to guess then I suspect Bezos and Gates owe a lot to being in the right place at the right time.

[Dark Soldier]

Gates mainly owes it to fucking a lot of people over, well known they used to offer to buy out smaller competitors and if it wasn't accepted they got turned over, if it was accepted they just killed whatever tech on the spot.

But every cunt with a few mil or more has completely fucked others along the way. Hence why most are sociopaths.

[-james-]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think if you're pro space exploration you have to be pro Musk. How many other billionaires are doing anything this interesting?

To specifically address the point of view of an aerospace engineering student, I’d like to share my experience as an aerospace engineering post StarshipOne and prior to SpaceX. Should shed some light on why Elon and Space X are seen as a big deal.

In that time period, the only major rocket builder in the USA was United Launch Alliance, making and operating the Atlas and Delta series. The ESA was launching Ariane series rockets, the Russians Proton series and the Chinese the Long March series. The other American big platform was discontinued, the Titan series, and NASA was going nowhere with a replacement for the Shuttle.

America had no launch programs carrying humans. The Ariane 5 was human launch capable but they’d never built a capsule. The Chinese are a black box for American engineering R&D because of their National security apparatus. So we were relying on ancient Soyuz tech to launch all manned missions.

If your were a space-focused AE student, you had limited options: work for a classified agency on classified payloads, build communications satellites, build launch vehicles for ULA, or work on hypothetical projects for NASA. Nobody took SpaceShipOne and space tourism seriously, given that it felt like a one-off for billionaire fame. SpaceShipTwo had been unveiled but hadn’t even undergone a powered test flight.

That was a bleak time to be getting into space stuff as an AE student. I got out precisely because the career opportunities weren’t interesting.

Then Space X, which most people had thought was another vanity project, got the contract for ISS resupply. They went from “oh hey maybe a little satellite launch program by a rich person” to “this is the legitimate future of commercial space flight” very quickly. December 2010 they orbit a Dragon capsule, the first orbit and recovery by a commercial company. Cool. But by May 2012, less than 18 months later, they were docking with ISS.

That suddenly thrust competition back into the US launch marketplace. You didn’t have to work for ULA on iterative improvements to a proven design. You could go to SpaceX and do interesting work on new and novel rockets and rocket concepts.

The balanced retro-thrust return was a huge deal because it was new and exciting. This was new, challenging tech that their engineers got to work (mostly). They’re launching ISS crews from America again, for the first time since the shuttle. They’re launching hundreds of new, novel satellites in a huge constellation (though the designs started a bit meh and are ass for ground-based telescopes, which the rocketry space nerds do not like because we stick with the astronomy type space nerds). They launched a car for a vanity project. They want to start sending people to the Moon and Mars.

And behind it all was Elon Musk, a very public figure. He was the man that made being an aerospace engineer with a focus on space fun and exciting again. He brought space launches back into the public psyche.

My school years in the 2000s had seen newspapers and magazines filled with think pieces about whether the age of manned space flight would end with the end of ISS. ISS was too expensive, the discoveries were too small, the budgets were too big. Let ISS die when funding ran out and stop sending up any astronauts, they’d argue.

But after I got out of AE for being utterly boring, Elon made it exciting again. And that was huge. Heck, I personally regretted a decision to move out of aerospace engineering and into more biological focused pursuits.

Elon certainly has flaws, but he was the standard bearer of the sea change of space flight. He’s both a driving force for a focus on space science and space engineering as a funder as well as the public figurehead of the push for the same.

(And FYI, if you don’t believe me, believe the AIAA. in the early 2000s the AIAA was actually facing a crisis for the future - their projections of numbers of new aerospace engineers weren’t meeting the projections of the numbers needed between replacing retiring existing members and expected needs to continue to meet targets. They needed young people to get excited about aerospace, so they started some big promotions for students to try to get them interested. They wanted a new generation of motivated engineers like they had gotten out of kids that looked at Apollo or the Shuttle and went “whoa, I want to do that!” And then followed through. But without an exciting new program for decades and none in the pipeline, it was bleak. For all some of the member companies of the AIAA might not like SpaceX (since they compete for contracts), Elon and SpaceX have basically solved the problem of finding and encouraging motivated new aerospace engineers.)

[Dark Soldier]

I don't think anyone is saying the work being done is bad - its more the person doing said work is a cunt. They're different things.

Hell, see the Nazis. Post war and the experiments their scientists were leaders in their fields.

[phonics]

He is if Reddit is a human being. He's always been cringe as fuck.

James citing a reddit post on why he's good actually was the perfect followup.