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    Anyone else done this DNA test?

    I'm 100% European, 95% British and Irish and 5% Ashkenazi Jewish specifically Ukraine or Poland. So someone in my family has cheated on someone else with a Ukranian or Polish Jew.

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    How accurate are these things? I don't care anywhere near enough to do one, but (admittedly from a knowing bugger all about them perspective) it's long struck me that it seems unlikely to be properly regulated and they could put any old shit on the report.

    Also, given centuries of immigration, what does 95% British even mean?

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    I did mine ages ago on Ancestry:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Also, given centuries of immigration, what does 95% British even mean?
    It means he's a diverse melting pot Yev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    How accurate are these things? I don't care anywhere near enough to do one, but (admittedly from a knowing bugger all about them perspective) it's long struck me that it seems unlikely to be properly regulated and they could put any old shit on the report.

    Also, given centuries of immigration, what does 95% British even mean?
    I don't know about the people ones, but didn't some comedian, maybe Joe Lycett, send off his own DNA to one of the dog ones and it came back saying he was 93% Pomeranian or something as they ask 'additional information' and essentially base the results off this information and not a test which I'm sure they don't do.

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    23andme is apparently the most accurate one out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    How accurate are these things? I don't care anywhere near enough to do one, but (admittedly from a knowing bugger all about them perspective) it's long struck me that it seems unlikely to be properly regulated and they could put any old shit on the report.

    Also, given centuries of immigration, what does 95% British even mean?
    It means I have a great or great great grandparent that was Jewish.

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    And 2 parents that are disappointed.

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    Probably not the best time to be telling people your Jewish.

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    Considering he's Jewish does that mean Spikey should be banned for saying shit about him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Considering he's Jewish does that mean Spikey should be banned for saying shit about him?
    Keep up mate. These days the Nazi's are pro-Jew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    And 2 parents that are disappointed.
    Fuck them. Part of the reason I did this was to give me hope I was adopted or something.

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    Without meaning to sound like a knob, but why do people do these? Is there a point beyond morbid curiosity (aka a waste of time)?
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Without meaning to sound like a knob, but why do people do these? Is there a point beyond morbid curiosity (aka a waste of time)?
    It's just kind of interesting, right? Or, it would be if they were a bit more informative. I'd like to know the route my lineage took out of Africa. I suspect the majority will just be up through Europe (aside from my Grandads, that was SNATCHED from Africa by the white man). But I could be a secret Jew/Tibetan Monk, and that would be kind of cool (relation to Magic aside).

    I'd be interested in that. But paying £75 for it to say, "errr 75% British m8"? Nah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    It's just kind of interesting, right? Or, it would be if they were a bit more informative. I'd like to know the route my lineage took out of Africa. I suspect the majority will just be up through Europe (aside from my Grandads, that was SNATCHED from Africa by the white man). But I could be a secret Jew/Tibetan Monk, and that would be kind of cool (ralation to Magic aside).

    I'd be interested in that. But paying £75 for it to say, "errr 75% British m8"? Nah.
    It shows you that via haplogroups.

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    That's more interesting. How much was it? Might float it as a Father's Day gift seeing as I don't actually want anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Without meaning to sound like a knob, but why do people do these? Is there a point beyond morbid curiosity (aka a waste of time)?
    Just to see if there's anything interesting. It's all fine and well knowing your family tree but that doesn't show you who's been norty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    That's more interesting. How much was it? Might float it as a Father's Day gift seeing as I don't actually want anything else.
    £179. I also got the health reports too which are pretty cool.

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    Maybe not then. I'm not that good a dad.

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    You realise they'll immediately handover your dna when you inevitably commit a crime? That's how they got the Golden State Killer.

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    A man finds out he's 5% Jew and within an hour he's deemed an "inevitable" serial killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    You realise they'll immediately handover your dna when you inevitably commit a crime? That's how they got the Golden State Killer.
    That was pretty cool to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    You realise they'll immediately handover your dna when you inevitably commit a crime? That's how they got the Golden State Killer.
    It's why I haven't done it. No need to link me to the multiple canal killings in Manchester without making them work.

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    That and they'd have to flatten a rainforest to print your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    It's why I haven't done it. No need to link me to the multiple canal killings in Manchester without making them work.
    "Greater Manchester Police are on the hunt for man described as wearing walking boots. He's believed to have fled to Frankfurt."

    My dad got way into trying to trace the family tree. I don't think there's much in our lot to make that interesting, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    "Greater Manchester Police are on the hunt for man described as wearing walking boots. He's believed to have fled to Frankfurt."

    My dad got way into trying to trace the family tree. I don't think there's much in our lot to make that interesting, though.
    That's the point though, DNA doesn't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    That and they'd have to flatten a rainforest to print your results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    My dad got way into trying to trace the family tree. I don't think there's much in our lot to make that interesting, though.
    I did mine a few years ago. Apart from finding out my great-great-grandfather had a secret family, it was utterly boring. No Irish or anything, just Yorkshire farmers and Durham miners for generations.

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    If there's anyone you can trust to sell your genetic information to, it's American companies with abysmal financial records. I'm sure they wouldn't sell your data to insurance companies looking to exclude people for pre-existing conditions etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    I did mine a few years ago. Apart from finding out my great-great-grandfather had a secret family, it was utterly boring. No Irish or anything, just Yorkshire farmers and Durham miners for generations.
    Aye, my dad's side probably barely got out of Cumbria. My mam's side at least had some DISOWNMENT in the mix. All the interesting ones are in living memory for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    £179. I also got the health reports too which are pretty cool.
    I've just spotted that they do health reports in the more expensive tests. I'm tempted, although I could do the Numan one instead.

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    That's always felt like a can of worms to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I've just spotted that they do health reports in the more expensive tests. I'm tempted, although I could do the Numan one instead.
    They also do a lifestyle questionnaire so you can see when you're likely to get the thing.

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    I found mine really interesting, but my dad was adopted and he didn't know fuck all about his real dad, so there was some value to it

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    My family history is pretty well established on one side (the other side is just wurzels back to medieval times), but the more I've read about things, the more sceptical I am about a lot of it, particularly when it comes to one particular shagger in about 1910. I reckon when I'm bored in my 40s or 50s I'll do a deep dive and EXPOSE all the lies.

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    I did another one, with Ancestry. Turns out I've got more Irish DNA than Scottish or English lol. The Jewish is on my mum's side, and she has more Irish than my dad even though my Dad's family is actually from Ireland in the 1850s.

    All in all, would recommend. It's kinda cool knowing what your background is. Ancestry is cooler because there's obviously more people on it but it's shit for health, that's where 23andme blows it out the water.

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    So two different services gave you two different results? How does one decide which one to believe?

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    As I understand it 23andMe is mostly American and doesn't have the data to give massively accurate results for people from Europe. Ancestry is a far better for Europeans (or atleast Brits).

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    Isn't it all a bit Tartan shops selling fairytales to willing believers anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Isn't it all a bit Tartan shops selling fairytales to willing believers anyway?
    Kind of. "British" means nothing really. British how? We're all a mixture of Romans, Saxons, Jutes, Vikings, etc. And the Vikings, Romans Jutes etc. Were a similar mixture of different invading hoardes themselves.

    I suppose the interest would be in getting a rogue racial identifier from outside of that. Imagine a DNA test explaining that the reason you're a gigantic freak is because your great, great grandad was from Fiji, for example.

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    You can only go back 8 generations regarding DNA, so it does mean something.

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