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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Could they have picked a more stereotypical looking wrestling fan
    A "Lewis" too.

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    Smackdown wasn't as good as Raw but it's nice to see the tournaments being the main feature of TV.

    I'm also gonna assume Solo is lying through his teeth and Roman ain't told him shit. Which will make Roman SO MAD he won't do anything about it until November, in true wrasslin' style.

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    PLEs going back to Sunday so the UFC can have Saturdays alone

    Bad move.

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    Jeywinslol

    I swear if he beats Gunther next week

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    I’ve just clocked Toma Tonga or whatever his name is will potentially match up with Jey. They’re going to go down that route. Oh god no.

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    Can't wait to see how SEETHING Waff will be when Jey wins MITB.

    They'll probably call him YEET In The Bank after, ugh.

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    The odds are a mess so you’ll get a decent price for him at 15/2

    Zayn is the fav somehow

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    This is the first year in a while that it's hard to predict I feel. There's no standout "he must win".

    Tiffy Time should take the women's.

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    If Gunther loses to Jey I'd be surprised if it was squeaky clean, because if Jey's going through it's to set up a Bloodline final, right? So maybe Bloodline try to cost him or something?

    I think I still reckon Gunther is probably winning but I wouldn't put anything on it.

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    Not going to lie I might have teared up a little at this


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    I love that the celebrities that get involved now across the companies are a far cry from Jeremy Piven yawning his way through a Summerfest promo.

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    Tiffy Time.

    (If you want my actual thoughts I don't think she actually meant to be racist, and as she's regularly cited Megan Thee Stallion and others I'm going to say she might have just got a little too comfortable with her memes)

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    Ohhhh dear.

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    The most talented people in life are always a wrong un in some way
    Last edited by Waffdon; 16-05-2024 at 09:44 PM.

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    Fuck sake.

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    She's married to Gunther's Nazi twink mate so it adds up at least.

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    They're not married, please don't spread false and malicious rumours.

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    Seems it's still Tiffy Time.

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    Of course Bianca wins though. All these NXT guys just losing so soon after debuting is quite annoying.

    Lets hope we get Gunther/Orton rather than Jey/Tonga as the former could be one for the ages

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    Losing to Belair and Randy Orton (plus Cody) isn't too bad.

    Losing to Jey Uso though, rough.

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    Gahahahahahahahahahahah Nia Jax/Jade Cargill.

    What a shitshow, it was worse than I could have predicted.

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    Also, what the fuck was this about?



    Is he on some sort of gear?

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    They’re pushing the wrong NXT person. Lyra making it to the finals is certainly something. At least Gunther won clean, did not expect that.

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    Also hope that jobber Bron was up against got paid good. My lord

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    They’re pushing the wrong NXT person. Lyra making it to the finals is certainly something. At least Gunther won clean, did not expect that.
    Lyra's quality.

    Although I think she's gotten a bigger rub than she should have by being Becky's mate.

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    Apparently Darby Allin rocked back up on Dynamite, wielding an actual flamethrower.

    What the fuck.

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    Nia Jax pinning Bianca clean wasn’t what I was expecting to read on Twitter this evening. She better not beat Bayley

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    Not understanding this prolonged Nia Jax push. I thought Triple H would have phased her out after the job to Rhea in Australia.

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    Gunther vs Orton

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    Perfect chance to push Tiffy whilst the bodybuilders team until their inevitable feud. Hopefully she at least wins MITB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Gunther vs Orton
    Orton will win but my god it could be spectacular if Orton has his working boots on

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    Oh God is Hayes being aligned with Theory and Waller? Hopefully he escapes that in short order.

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    Another loss for him too...

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    WWE has always been a babyface company. If the heel isn’t a monster like Lesnar or Gunther, then you’re getting beat like a drum.

    Phonics will give me the old man treatment but that’s a big reason I loved old NWA/WCW. Heels were dominant so the babyface chase was a great journey to go on. WWE conditioned us to think babyfaces need to keep winning to be relevant.

    That’s why 99-03 Rick was so good. He broke the mould and often lost clean as a babyface when nobody else did, even Austin, because he’d just go back out the next night and get himself over again.

    Hayes will get himself over when he eventually turns and not before, unless his promos suddenly start setting fires.

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    Agreed to an extent but Gunther and Reigns were both heels and both broke records for title reigns. Even Rollins was a heel for a lot of his dominant run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    WWE has always been a babyface company. If the heel isn’t a monster like Lesnar or Gunther, then you’re getting beat like a drum.

    Phonics will give me the old man treatment but that’s a big reason I loved old NWA/WCW. Heels were dominant so the babyface chase was a great journey to go on. WWE conditioned us to think babyfaces need to keep winning to be relevant.

    That’s why 99-03 Rick was so good. He broke the mould and often lost clean as a babyface when nobody else did, even Austin, because he’d just go back out the next night and get himself over again.

    Hayes will get himself over when he eventually turns and not before, unless his promos suddenly start setting fires.
    From what I saw of his NXt run (which wasn't all of it), Hayes suits being a heel so much more than a face.

    His character work just feels smoother as a heel and his promos are more natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    WWE has always been a babyface company. If the heel isn’t a monster like Lesnar or Gunther, then you’re getting beat like a drum.
    I'd say outside of Punk/Cena/Bryan their champions have been mostly heels. The problem is if you're a heel and don't think you're made for the top belt you end up doing a dance routine with a mid-card tag team. But then I'd have a slightly different definition of Babyface/Heel than some so maybe I'm wrong. (Wouldn't classify HHH/Rock/Austin as Faces)

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    Also the Reign of Terror was about 300 years long.

    Or at least the ti.e between the Pedgiree and pinning Booker was 300 years.

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    That wasn’t indicative of Vince’s day to day booking strategy for the full roster, champions got different treatment (obviously). Everyone in his circle said it was a nightmare to build up a heel through the pack because as soon as they had any ounce of popularity, Vince was itching to turn them. Heels are cannon fodder until they get to the top, because the mantra is to send the crowd home happy, not have them clamouring at the ticket office to come back the next week to see the comeuppance (itself caused by their widespread touring schedule).

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    Hence what I meant when I said they all end up doing a dance routine. Remember that giant guy who ended up hanging around with blue meanie in a tie dye shirt whos personality was 'he likes south park'

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    AEW aside, me and Phonics are two peas in a pod.

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    This show has been really good.

    Logan Paul is a future HOFer. Crazy

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    Phonics has reminded me that Brodus Clay existed and how awful that whole thing was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    This show has been really good.

    Logan Paul is a future HOFer. Crazy
    Agreed, it was a really good show. Nia's match was obviously shit, but the rest were all great even if the outcomes were obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Phonics has reminded me that Brodus Clay existed and how awful that whole thing was.
    In the Scooby Doo WWE crossover film, I was amazed that Brodus Clay was a main character and then he just eats sandwiches in every scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning View Post
    Agreed, it was a really good show. Nia's match was obviously shit, but the rest were all great even if the outcomes were obvious.
    I was convinced Orton was winning as well as Lynch so I can’t complain. Presume they’re gonna have Orton/Rhodes due to the shoulders being up

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    I can be overly defensive about AEW but Billy Corgan called Tony Khan a bad booker and made this man a champion for nearly a full year.


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    I didn't watch any of the shows building up to it so wasn't sure why people thought Orton would win, other than "he's never won it before"! Having Gunther lose 2 big matches so close together would have been really odd.

    I was surprised they had the balls to let Liv win, but it's the right call as Liv/Rhea actually has a reason to happen.

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    Going to presume they didn't let Liv where her new outfit with the slkirt thats smaller than her arse? I wanted her to get pushed the moment I saw that gimmick.

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    She was basically wearing the Britney Spears red jumpsuit but it was better than Becky who looked like she was wrestling in a shit tux.

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