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    I imagine his method is the same as when I played with the 80+ year old 'big man' president of our cricket club at a golf day once.

    *he can barely make contact with the ball, hacks about six shots down the hole and drops a couple by the greenside, then three putts and turns to me*
    'That was a five, wasn't it?'
    'Erm...'
    'I'm pretty sure it was a five.'
    'Yeah, it was a five. Good playing, Bill.'

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    Is Trump now appearing in blackface?

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    I was hoping we'd see him staring directly at an eclipse again.

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    His hand gestures are even loller in such an informal setting.

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    I can never not call Chick-fil-A chick-a-fil, it's hard wired into my brain somehow.

    Watching US news coverage these past few days I can't help but feel the republicans and Trump are going to get buried under a reproductive rights landslide, which they rightly should.

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    Not like the Executive can do much about "reproductive rights." That is the purview of individual states (thank you, Supreme Court) or Congress, if they ever get their act together (lol).

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    I don't get that video? What is so unique about their reaction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Not like the Executive can do much about "reproductive rights." That is the purview of individual states (thank you, Supreme Court) or Congress, if they ever get their act together (lol).
    Can you not just make a law if you have Congress and the presidency? Which is what will happen, although all the ballot business that ends up putting reproductive rights into various state constitutions as a rider to the judgements in these various cases are quite funny. The reality is that an overtly politicised judiciary is clearly a terrible idea and quite an amusing outcome from a system so wildly obsessed with the separation of powers.

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    I believe that they would need 60 votes in the Senate (out of 100 members.) Never gonna happen.

    Abortions have gone up, not down, since the famous decision. If the Supreme Court wanted to BAN ABORTION, as some claimed, they did a pretty terrible job at it.

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    How do you even say that restaurant's name? Chick filler or chick fill-ay?

    'Some chicken' is a strong order from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    How do you even say that restaurant's name? Chick filler or chick fill-ay?

    'Some chicken' is a strong order from him.
    Fill-ay. Because yanks. Loads of 'erbs, I imagine.

    On the subject of "reproductive rights", I saw something the other day about our tap water being full of Estrogen (along with Cocaine), because of "the pill", which means we're essentially all taking the pill involuntarily and the rivers are now full of fucked up gender bending tranny fish with fannies, balls and attitude problems.

    Now, it sounds like bollocks and I'm treating it as such, but if it's true, then oral contraceptive is need to go straight in the bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Not like the Executive can do much about "reproductive rights." That is the purview of individual states (thank you, Supreme Court) or Congress, if they ever get their act together (lol).
    As if voters have ever cared about what a specific branch of government can do. It's literally this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    I believe that they would need 60 votes in the Senate (out of 100 members.) Never gonna happen.

    Abortions have gone up, not down, since the famous decision. If the Supreme Court wanted to BAN ABORTION, as some claimed, they did a pretty terrible job at it.
    Is that to make it constitutional? Can they not just pass a Federal law with a basic majority? Always seemed a bit daft to try and frame it as a constitutional issue, but they are obsessed with THE FOUNDERS so hey ho.

    And whilst the Dobbs decision etc isn't really changing the numbers, it is having loads of really stupid/bad unintended consequences like that Texas woman or the IVF in Alabama thing which could really do with being ironed out.

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    https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-real-...ma-ivf-ruling/

    The case had essentially nothing to do with abortion. Three families pursuing IVF sued their clinic after another patient apparently wandered into the facility’s freezers without the staff realizing it and picked up a container of embryos. The extreme cold burned that person’s hand, causing them to drop the container onto the floor, which killed all of the embryos it held. The families contended that this amounted to negligence on the part of the clinic that had led to the wrongful death of their embryos, and brought a civil claim under Alabama’s Wrongful Death of a Minor Act. The law has long been interpreted as applying to events that cause the death of a pregnant woman’s unborn child, regardless of that child’s gestational age. By the same logic, the families insisted, it should also apply to their embryonic children.
    Alabama allowed parents to sue for the death of an unborn child even before the latest decision.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68821646

    Somehow she looks even thicker with every passing month.

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    Paywalled: https://www.ft.com/content/75511127-...c-22aed92d1424

    But this excerpt is superb:

    Unfortunately, her approach worked a bit like this: imagine a bunch of people are stuck in a warm, stuffy room together. Everyone wants the windows to be opened, but they are fastened shut by complicated locks. While people try to work out how the locks operate, one of them, Liz, attempts to throw a chair through the window. The chair bounces off and hits her in the face.

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    Interesting trend of self-immolation among wackos in the US of late.

    Elsewhere:

    To protect their identities, New York Judge Juan Merchan limited the amount of information reporters can share about the 12 [jurors in the Trump case].

    So here's BBC's in depth piece about WHO THEY ARE.


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    Erm ... could that possibly throw the case out?

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    Doubt it, although if it somehow does it'll just be another one of those things, like DON'T GIVE MASS SHOOTINGS AND MASS SHOOTERS 24 HOUR NEWS COVERAGE, that the media takes, completely ignores and then refuses to acknowledge as a root cause of a later problem arising therefrom.

    Guess a mistrial would fully kick this into the long grass never to be tried again, but then it's a pretty rubbish case so that might be the best outcome for the anti-Trump movement. #conspiracy

    The documents case and the Supreme Court's view on total presidential immunity look more interesting, particularly from a political machinations perspective seeing as there's a load of Trump judges involved in those.

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    Finally the US have approved an aid package for Ukraine after months of stalling.

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    Fantastic news. Bring on the weaponry.

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    It'll be interesting to see if some of the Republicans see the next few months - while Trump courtroom drama is occupying him - as a chance to create a bit of political seperation. If it turns out to be a good election for the Repubicans, then there's likely no consequences. But if it's a bad election for them, they have a little distance from Trump and could hold on to their own jobs.

    You get the feeling that Johnson was a little more willing to let the Ukraine funding go through while Trump is raging against courtroom sketch artists and headlines that he farts in his sleep.
    Last edited by ItalAussie; 21-04-2024 at 03:25 AM.

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    Trump absolutely fucked lol.

    Guilty on all charges.

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    Biden wins by default?

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    His poll numbers will probably go up.

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    Is he going to prison now or what?

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    I feel like your normal guy would see lengthy jail time for this, but I expect he wont do any time.

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    11th July is his sentencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    I feel like your normal guy would see lengthy jail time for this, but I expect he wont do any time.
    Weren't the secret service inspecting a jail the other day for him lol. Apparently if he does end up there he's entitled to full secret service protection because he's a former president.

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    Instantly claiming it was a rigged trial and a biased judge, lol.

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    What does this do for his candidacy? Is the answer something other than nowt?

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    Afaik he can run in November, win, then absolve himself of everything and grant himself immunity going forwards.

    He just cannot vote for himself now.

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    Truly a land of freedom and opportunity.

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    He's not winning now.

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    I wouldn't be so sure. Whilst it would be ridiculous (and very, very funny), this is America and he's up against a fucking dementia patient.

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    Betting odds still favour him.

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    This will affect him not one jot. I reckon we are in for an almost repeat of the previous election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    This will affect him not one jot. I reckon we are in for an almost repeat of the previous election.
    The previous one? The one he lost?

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    Not even the yanks are stupid enough to elect a man with 34 criminal convictions as their President. I'd put his chances at 5% tops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    The previous one? The one he lost?
    Yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Not even the yanks are stupid enough to elect a man with 34 criminal convictions as their President. I'd put his chances at 5% tops.
    It’s such a low grade crime (in the view of the public) at the heart of this though that I wouldn’t be sure.

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    I cannot stress enough how funny it would be. It needs to happen.

    I'd also appreciate it if we could get another insurrection thrown in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Not even the yanks are stupid enough to elect a man with 34 criminal convictions as their President. I'd put his chances at 5% tops.
    Those who are going to vote for him will believe his rhetoric that he's been stitched up for political reasons. It's not like he was denying booting toddlers into the grand canyon and a video of him doing it has convicted him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Those who are going to vote for him will believe his rhetoric that he's been stitched up for political reasons. It's not like he was denying booting toddlers into the grand canyon and a video of him doing it has convicted him.
    All of them? It's not just the true believers who voted him home in 2016, he needs waverers like any politician does.

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    I think there's a fairly strong chance a lot of people will overlook this as it is a bit of a stitch up, and the core sensationalist aspect of it is not at all sensational really, however many years down the line. It's also arguably going to die on appeal as it has been a pretty 'novel' case from the DA. Not that it isn't deserved, in the infamous words of Nasty Nick, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Donald's not been shy of a technicality here or there in 40 years of ripping people off and abusing every aspect of capitalism imaginable. Same as the fraud case. Small businessman no harm done says why is this happening, but again, if you want to exist at the margins of what is allowed don't be surprised when you get a train run through you if the man ever gets wind of a way of doing it.

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    Yeah this will blow Joe out of the water.

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    What the fuck.

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    Jerry Senilefield in "What's the deal with shark attacks?"

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    He's obsessed


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    It's like me and The Balloon.

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