Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
You would have thought he’d realise from Blair that you need to stand on your own ticket and work your nuts off to beat an incumbent Tory government. Two things that I’d suggest aren’t happening and if they don’t get an outright majority in the general election it’ll be a worse showing than Corbyn.
It won't be easy to overturn this majority, especially as the Tories aren't shifting in Brexit areas quite as easily as in others. If I had to guess now I'd say the Lib Dems will prop them up into government in exchange for some watered dow electoral reform (watered down because Labour don't want it, much to the disappointment of their online cheerleaders).
You would think that's it the biggest thing you can see happening in the next election is tactical voting just to get rid of the Tories and everyone seems to be fed up with them at the minute.Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I never understand why Labour aren't interested in reform of the voting surely PR helps them by basically ensuring a coalition should nearly always be made that could keep the Tories out. No they the LD's, Greens etcetera have different end games but they aren't as far apart as they make out.
Labour would (presumably) rather be running the show from time to time, rather than 'ensuring the Tories are kept out'. Coalition politics are for minority parties. Also it'd end up back firing with a coalition of conservatives and other right wing/pensioner lunatics being in perpetual government.
The Pensioner Party, Save Our Greenbelt, and the We Love Dogs Party ruling for a thousand years.
What was turnout like at these? Don't tell me the spiritual crisis that has us all drowning in apathy and nihilism is merely a figment of my imagination.
Less than 25% in my area.
41.5% for Durham's little by-election.
38%. Grim.
31.71% for around here.
Genuinely the thickest man in politics. I only follow him to see how he'll outdo himself next.
Peston? Generally I'd agree but I don't see what's so bad about that tweet. It is surprising that Israelis sponsoring that conference would be okay with Douglas Murray calling the Holocaust a "muck up".
Also, I still can't believe they called it "National Conservatism". Like, come on.
I remember Jimmy saying that the world is forgetting how bad the World Wars were and how dangerous that is and he's right. We are slowly marching towards ww3. What an irredeemable shithole the world is at the moment.
It’s probably no worse than it was in the 80s.
The difference between now and the first half of the 20th century is that living standards are so much higher now that there is no incentive for the common man to want to go out and tear shit up. Communists and fascists won support with grand visions and promises of a better world. No one today, except a few fringe freaks in university common rooms, wants a better world. They want the same world but tailored more precisely to their narrow interests, which usually just means more time to drink alcohol and watch Netflix.
So although some commentators rooted in Cold War politics may find splinter right conferences 'chilling', in reality it's just a load of hot air.
Nobody would dare get involved in a war with a country boasting Mark Francois among its defenders.
The different tariffs are a total scam from what I've heard so they'll find a way to get them signed back up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65636112
A remarkable example of someone correctly diagnosing the problem while also being the problem. Also some good Young Conservatives material, for fans of that.
Oof indeed. Glad I managed to get mine fixed for another five years a few months ago when things had fallen a bit after last year's Liz Truss debacle and I didn't just hold out to see what things were like when the original two year fixed period ended this month. That £75 a month increase doesn't look as bad now.
Mine renews September 2024, so you can guarantee it'll be a complete shitshow until at least then.
We're yet to move into our new house but the mortgage is in place. Fixed at 4.5%, which is a sickener coming off a 2%er.
We're just in the process of fixing again for three years at about 4.2% coming off – I think – 2.5% which doesn't feel like the worst thing that could ever happen ever. Still shit though.
Ours is up for renewal in February but was a wank interest rate so we could borrow more than the low interest rate offers at the time (through her bank), so hopefully it wont sting as much for us.
Ours goes up £300 a month next month
Only fixed for 2 years, so the cunt had better start falling soon.
Yeah my Mrs was banging on about getting a large loan out to use on a new kitchen and some building work, she didn't seem to realise our mortgage could be going up shortly so maybe not the best time to lock into a large repayment plan.
That's not the type of thing a woman would do now is it.
The house we've bought has recently had the kitchen and bathroom done (to a great standard). My Mrs wanted to go for the one round the corner that was £20k less, but needed the kitchen and bathroom doing urgently.
But all the goons on Twitter are laughing at Germany and it's recession!
Some geezer has ramraided Downing St gates and not a single post. Dennis Skinner in the mud.
Ramraider a nonce: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65729003
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65861936
Sir Rees-Mogg.
Former minister Nadine Dorries was not put forward for the House of Lords.
She stood down as an MP "with immediate effect" an hour before the honours list was released.
The cronyism in this country at times would make Putin cringe.
Is that Nadine taking revenge for them not giving her a gong by serving up an awkward by-election? These people honestly have no idea do they.
Surely a 25000 majority isn't going to be particularly awkward, unless it was her winning personality and electoral charm which won that.
If one of Lab/LD stands aside, the other will piss it.
Boris gone too. RIP useless prat.
Still trying to blame everyone but himself. Fucking charlatan.
Not sure why his statement drones on about how we need low taxes. He was PM for three years and was Mr High Taxes. Proves that anyone still backing him is an embarrassing sycophant rather than anyone who thinks about what they are saying or doing.
I'm honestly pretty easy on the tax thing. Have high taxes and a Scandinavian system if you want, or low taxes and a Yank one. Whatever. Just anything but the worst of both worlds shite we have at the moment.
He really is the disgrace that keeps on giving.
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That woman is obviously being massively over-promoted, but it's difficult to get wound up about it when I still have to hear from 'Baroness Warsi' fifteen years after David Cameron needed his picture taken with a brown woman.
Is she actually his daughter?
Surely even he wouldn't have the brass neck for that.
*realises who he's talking about*
Oh yeah.
Didn't he recommend his dad for a knighthood?
He's probably got no more idea if it's his daughter than we do.
Dame Priti Patel is the most egregious one.
At least Priti Patel has been a 'public' servant for years. She's not the first person to basically commit treason on the job and get a gong later. You expect a level of Sir Eric Pickles of the £80k biscuit bill stuff, but nominating the youngest person in history who is basically a nobody to vote on policy and recieve £1500 a week for life or whatever it is, naked corruption.
They need all these ogres in the Lords, as I'm increasingly not convinced they're going to have much left in the Commons after the election.
They'll need all the peers they can get to agree with everything the Labour government does and use their new platform to criticise whoever seeks to re-make the party.
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