Shame Zee Germans didn't walk that one in there. Maguire and Dier at this level would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
Shame Zee Germans didn't walk that one in there. Maguire and Dier at this level would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
Thank god Ten Hag bullied the board into paying for Martinez and dropped Maguire at the first opportunity.
It's upsetting that United didn't give Southgate the manager's job.
This really goes to show how even really good attacking players (Kane, Foden) will look wank in a poorly coached team.
The eternally pointless Mason Mount on to save the day.
After my faint praise in the first half, this second half has been an abomination thus far.
England centre back Harry Maguire kicking off that move by being disposessed trying to dribble his way out of trouble on the edge of the opposition box.
Incredible hit by Havertz though.
Maguire
Winter of discontent indeed.
At least he's got all of the off field, inclusivity calls right though. Do we have to go through the world cup before we sack the useless twat?
Southgate gets fired tonight, right?
No chance.
A contract extension is more likely.
Got a day off work tomorrow so I'll be getting my "Southgate is shit" evictory certificate laminated.
Gwan Fat Lad
It's coming home. We've been well better here, slabhead aside.
Pies on Shaw tonight.
This was all Southgates doing. New contract til 2026 please.
He’s never won a game in a tournament that you would call a 50/50 bar maybe that Germany game last year and even then they were absolutely woeful at the time.
The problem, as ever, is applying the standards of club football to international football. Who are you replacing him with? Which international side of the past 20 years do you want to emulate the style of?
I remember a few years ago being ridiculed on here for suggesting that England would probably win a world cup in our lifetime. Two close calls later and everyone wants the man in charge gone.
Two close calls?
Sir Gareth Southgate.
Sareth Gouthgate? Gareths Outhgate?
@Lewis?
We can go through it all again, but the close calls were helped massively by the draw in one and the draw and being at home in the other and he lost both of the final games of those tournaments in exactly the same manner.
I've never understood the who do you replace him with argument, as if there isn't an immediately available obvious choice we just carry on with the same shite.
Southgate gets a contract extension tonight, right?
Southgate stays
Reece James has looked brilliant since Foden fucked off
I'm not sure I've ever watched Pope before but he's been absolutely dreadful tonight.
Rob Green, David James, Joe Hart, now Nick Pope. Any other England goalkeepers that need hanging?
Germany are an absolute mess defensively and have been for a while. These high lines
Fairly certain that came off a German player and Mount was subsequently taken out in the penalty area. Robbed.
Mourinho would do a better job. The king of the one-off game.
Saka looked a real spark.
Spain, Italy, France and Germany are all in as bad form as England so the latter will probably still shithouse their way to another semis at least.
I’m not when sure who is a good team.
Brazil and France are always going to tear shit up from the big names. Lot of people raving about Argentina on their mad run that they are but all I see is wall-to-wall fat old favela cunts and a few laughably overrated CBs.
I peeped a bit of the Dutch and this Gakpo looks like an actual serious player. Bergwijn too and then some important quality elsewhere. Stick them alongside Denmark.
Mount, Pickford and Southgate stocks up tonight and probably too late to drop Maguire when he faces one of the greatest penalty-winning strikers (only occasionally diving) the game has ever seen. What a night
Our group is annoying, as dropping points to any of those would be a monstrous geopolitical embarrassment. If you draw with Tunisia then who cares.
Germany trolling us in 5 more years of Southgate is a real sickener.
Brazil are the only scary side. On paper they should bum everyone but that was true last time as well and it looks like they'll be in the hardest quarter of the draw, England can't meet them until the final if they both win their groups or the semis if one of them doesn't.
The knockouts if everything goes as expected. England's quarter if France somehow balls it up. :')
Have the South Americans got over their cult of personality around number 10s yet? If not then they still won't do anything. Europeans have been miles ahead in approach for a decade or two now.
Mane dumping out England in the second round.