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    Completely missed that England were playing tonight. What a lucky accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    This is wrong.

    You probably won't get optimum results going out and trying to Total Football it. But the kind of football Southgate is playing does not get the best performances or results out of this squad either. There is a balance to be struck, and this ain't it.
    I agree. I already said we’re not going to win. Who are you getting in to provide this perfect balance? What you have to factor in with Southgate is that it’s not the on-pitch stuff that he’s got right but the off pitch stuff. We all hated the team prior to him taking over and they hated each other. Who do you get in who keeps that going and nails the on pitch stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    This is wrong.

    You probably won't get optimum results going out and trying to Total Football it. But the kind of football Southgate is playing does not get the best performances or results out of this squad either. There is a balance to be struck, and this ain't it.
    Literally every team that’s won in the last 20 years or so disagrees. France we’re honking. Italy were honking twice. Portugal were awful. Greece were fucking Greece. Germany of 2016 were probably the only good team to win a major championship in 15 years.

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    The goodwill towards the team won't last much longer if this shit keeps up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    The goodwill towards the team won't last much longer if this shit keeps up.
    Nothing we do better than building people up and then tearing them down. Is a national pastime.

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    England won’t be seeded for the Euros Draw now. Not that it will make much of a difference but means they could get a dodgy group.

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    The next England manager odds are sight to behold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    The next England manager odds are sight to behold.
    Mourinho.

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    Him being in a music video with stormzy makes more sense now.

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    As much of a busted flush Mourinho is, I think I’d welcome it for the lols over what we currently have.

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    Jose Mourinho: England Manager would be peak football. We were denied the lols we deserved when Allardyce got fired, we must have them now. Sick to the back teeth of Southgate 'conducting himself with great dignity'.

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    His comments after the game sound like the words of a man who has had a major divorce from reality - it all has a bit of a last days of Taylor, Hodgson etc feel about it.

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    Thomas Tuchel would be our best bet.

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    Y'know we've been embarrassed but it's a group with Germany and Italy in it. And they're both being humbled by Hungary. Still, Waistgate has to ditch this 'I'd rather not lose' mentality and play games to win them. He's had his time. He took us pretty far but he cannot take us further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Thomas Tuchel would be our best bet.
    I'll raise you, Arsene Wenger.

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    Tim Sherwood's due a comeback.

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    All of these suggestions are better than old big nose.

    I'd even rather have a player manager Wayne Rooney for shits and gigs.

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    Just switched on the BBC to find the Emirates belting out Sweet Caroline. It's the WSL ffs. Stop it.

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    There is a (weirdly large) section of the population that will happily belt out Sweet Caroline at any time, for any reason, sometimes abandoning their usual healthy cynicism to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I agree. I already said we’re not going to win. Who are you getting in to provide this perfect balance? What you have to factor in with Southgate is that it’s not the on-pitch stuff that he’s got right but the off pitch stuff. We all hated the team prior to him taking over and they hated each other. Who do you get in who keeps that going and nails the on pitch stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Just switched on the BBC to find the Emirates belting out Sweet Caroline. It's the WSL ffs. Stop it.
    Just think yourself lucky we've moved on from Hey Jude.

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    A propos of nothing (reminded by 'arry Redknapp in a car, which somehow features in it), I read Rory Smith's 'Expected Goals' in the last few days - brilliant book, for anyone who wants a grounding in data in football. Really enjoyed it and learned a lot. It doesn't dive deep into the specifics, but is a great commentary on the evolution of data in the sport.

    Also puts forward the idea that Sam Allardyce was basically the Billy Beane of English football. Poor Sam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Just switched on the BBC to find the Emirates belting out Sweet Caroline. It's the WSL ffs. Stop it.
    It's a truly awful song, used in such a cynical fashion, that pains me every time I hear idiots belting it out.

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    Also, had to do a double take at this:

    Juventus have named Maurizio Arrivabene, the former Ferrari Formula 1 boss, as their new CEO, in charge of football affairs.
    Which they've followed up in appropriate style by losing to Monza last week. Cracking stuff.

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    Brivio to Alpine was odd enough, next up Luca di Montezemelo as All Blacks coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    There is a (weirdly large) section of the population that will happily belt out Sweet Caroline at any time, for any reason, sometimes abandoning their usual healthy cynicism to do so.
    I was, [not] interestingly, sent a shit meme on this very theme not 5 minutes before you posted this.

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    Post it then.

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    Rooney Euros 2004 was pure


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    Watching the last goal in that sequence, my first thought was 'oh, VAR will have a look at that'. Game's gone.

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    People have already forgotten how good Rooney was.

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    Mon the tartan dons, by 2 or more please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    A propos of nothing (reminded by 'arry Redknapp in a car, which somehow features in it), I read Rory Smith's 'Expected Goals' in the last few days - brilliant book, for anyone who wants a grounding in data in football. Really enjoyed it and learned a lot. It doesn't dive deep into the specifics, but is a great commentary on the evolution of data in the sport.

    Also puts forward the idea that Sam Allardyce was basically the Billy Beane of English football. Poor Sam.
    Presumably you've also read The Numbers Game and Soccernomics. There's a couple of others too but I've not got Expected Goals.

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    The guy who wrote The Numbers Game is one of the main 'characters' in this, via his subsequent voyage into English football which somehow finished up being Tony Mowbray's boss at Coventry.

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    Scotland don't half attempt to play some difficult incisive passing football. Good to see them breaking from their brexitball roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    A propos of nothing (reminded by 'arry Redknapp in a car, which somehow features in it), I read Rory Smith's 'Expected Goals' in the last few days - brilliant book, for anyone who wants a grounding in data in football. Really enjoyed it and learned a lot. It doesn't dive deep into the specifics, but is a great commentary on the evolution of data in the sport.

    Also puts forward the idea that Sam Allardyce was basically the Billy Beane of English football. Poor Sam.
    I think I heard him plugging it a while ago, is this the one where he said Big Sam used data to change the way Bolton set up for corners because he analysed data on where the second ball tended to be?

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    That sort of thing yeah, he was on football weekly talking about it too in the last week or so.

    He had Allardyce as one of the most influential managers in England in recent times.

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    Yeah, that's it.

    It also makes out that Damien Comolli was some kind of far-sighted genius ahead of his time, which I didn't know was a thing.

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    Remember when the offside rule changed and it was only Bolton and Ruud van Nistelrooy that understood it and everybody else seethed?

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    Mitrovic hat trick tonight. Scott Parker needs doing for war crimes.

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    So does any CL side who signed a striker or indeed was in the market for one this summer.

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    Is Damian Commolli the DoF who was at Spurs and Liverpool? I'm pretty sure he comes out as a bit of a hero in one of those books I mentioned above, and Allardyce is mentioned a bit too. I think the earlier stages when Andy Carroll, Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson were signed were him in his early stages of getting to grips with data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    So does any CL side who signed a striker or indeed was in the market for one this summer.
    Apparently he just loves the easy street of a life that is Fulham, or he'd have gone ages back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Post it then.
    It's on my phone, but is something to the effect of two guys standing on a battlefield discussing how to work out if all the corpses are dead or just pretending, so one starts singing sweet caroline, at which point the non-dead corpses do the "ba ba baa" bit, and then get speared.

    Would probably have been easier just to find the thing than try to explain it.

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    Hey Jude is the same shit, different melody.

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    Hey Jude might be my least favourite song.

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    Worth the wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Apparently he just loves the easy street of a life that is Fulham, or he'd have gone ages back.
    Makes sense really. Absolutely loves living in London, guaranteed first name in the XI, team built around him, fans absolutely adore him. Not to mention in the middle of one of the best international runs of form in decades.

    Every goal he scores continues to make a mockery of Scott Parker and his insistence on playing Ivan Cavaleiro or Josh Maja over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    Hey Jude might be my least favourite song.
    Everything The Beatles did was absolute shite. I've no idea why they are so popular.

    Elvis is/was even worse.

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