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    Destiny is all!

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    James May: Our Man in Italy is great but I personally enjoyed the trip to Japan more.

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    How does it compare to Stanley Tucci: Searching for Italy?

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    Unknown although James May > Tucci.

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    We Own this City is incredibly disappointing.

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    I've finished Ozark. I mostly really enjoyed it. Season three was the pinnacle but I enjoyed four a lot too. I'm glad they've not let it outstay it's welcome. On reflection I kind of feel like Wendy Byrde is the real villain of the entire piece. Excellently played by Laura Linney too.

    I've also smashed through season five of the perennially underrated Snowfall over the last couple of days too. Such a cracking show. Not it's strongest season, it lost it's way a little in places, but the ending was absolutely excellent and sets up the sixth (and final) season perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    We Own this City is incredibly disappointing.
    I thought it got better as it went along, with a slightly disappointing finale.

    It's overall just terribly depressing.

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    Fielder is back donning it with The Rehearsal.

    So good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    Fielder is back donning it with The Rehearsal.

    So good.
    The second episode was wild.

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    I've started watching OITNB, I'm on episode 6 and about ready to tap out, it's really quite boring.

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    I don’t think I can get through season 4 of Stranger Things. Frustrating to come so far and not get a final payoff though.

    One highlight is how much
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    Even googling to get that made me lol out loud.
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    What’s OINTB?

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    Scrap that, just worked it out and yeah, I felt the same.

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    I think I gave up on it after a couple of seasons too. I seem to remember my main gripe with it just being that I thought the main character was an insufferable twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    I think I gave up on it after a couple of seasons too. I seem to remember my main gripe with it just being that I thought the main character was an insufferable twat.
    I loved OITNB but yeah, Piper is an absolute cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    Watch BCS it's so good, @Baz.
    I wish I’d followed this advice when I asked whether to watch stranger things or better call Saul.

    After thinking I was gonna abandon stranger things I realised I only had two episodes left so I persevered and it’s done. Christ it’s shite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    The second episode was wild.
    Are we assuming that episode 2 is going to be the basis for the rest of the season?

    Either way, I agree, the first 2 episodes were great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I loved OITNB but yeah, Piper is an absolute cunt.
    Yeah, hard to disagree. Did you see the Trojan horse justification for her existence? The maker of the show said she put in a middle class cracker protagonist to get people to watch it who wouldn't have otherwise, which I sorta accept but if you're gonna do that you might as well make her not shit.

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    Game of Thrones, talk to me. Never watched an episode, never read the books. Am I missing out?

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    I've tried a couple of times and can't get into it. My wife keeps telling me it's like Breaking Bad was for her, to persevere into the second series and then it comes really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Game of Thrones, talk to me. Never watched an episode, never read the books. Am I missing out?
    I refused to watch it for ages cus stupid dragons and dwarves fantasy wank for twats, but eventually enough people I actually respect banged on about it that I took the plunge. I feel similarly about it to breaking bad - it's very good by the usual standards of normie tv that goes massive like lost or whatever, but it's definitely a tier down from sopranos, the wire, six feet under etc. And i know it's a massive cliche at this point but it really does fall off a cliff about 4-5 seasons in. But it is definitely worth a watch, it is really good, genuinely compelling telly for the first few seasons.

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    I sat through the first season of it when it was coming out. Dogshit.

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    I watched the first episode and quickly realised it wasn’t for me. After hearing people irl moan about it, it seems like I made the right choice.
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    Game of Thrones is a strange one because (in my opinion) it was very clearly the best thing on television for a long time. Although I appreciate that depends on your tolerance for "Fantasy" as a genre. But on the other hand the final season was such a sack of shit I almost lean towards not recommending it.

    It's a bit like Lost in that regard. Although Game of Thrones, at its best, was a lot better than Lost at its best.

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    I don't like fantasy as a genre but it was cracking TV for the most part.

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    The office discourse around it seemed to be around characters being bumped off. I didn't bother but I'm also not big on fantasy.

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    Think I’m gonna delay catching up on Better Call Saul and instead give the American version of The Office a try. I keep seeing clips on Instagram and laughing at them. Is it good?
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    Yes.

    Game of Thrones is shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Think I’m gonna delay catching up on Better Call Saul and instead give the American version of The Office a try. I keep seeing clips on Instagram and laughing at them. Is it good?
    Disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    The office discourse around it seemed to be around characters being bumped off. I didn't bother but I'm also not big on fantasy.
    Yeah man, I remember this being the case as well. I also remember my colleagues seeming pretty perplexed at the critical panning the last couple of seasons were getting. Thankfully I was in my late 20s rather than my late teens, so I didn't explain in length why they were wrong and link them to numerous youtube essays explaining why it was shit.

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    Why not? You might have gained a few subscribers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Game of Thrones, talk to me. Never watched an episode, never read the books. Am I missing out?
    Don't.

    The first few seasons are so fucking good. There's no point saying "watch up to the end of season 5" or whatever because it's the kind of story where you want to know the end.

    But the end is SO FUCKING BAD it just sours the whole experience. It will leave you feeling so unsatisfied.

    It's almost worth watching just to see how hard they fucked the ending. I can't express how bad it is.

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    The ending is terrible, but that show went to shit way before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Why not? You might have gained a few subscribers.
    very good, you absolute wanker

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    The American version is better than the Gervais original.

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    @Baz

    Watch it immediately and unfriend me if you don’t like it. My favourite tv show. Jim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    The American version is better than the Gervais original.
    Very much agree.

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    Very much disagree.

    The US one went on far too long and really shat the bed at times.

    Had it ended at the right time though then it would be close.

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    If I'd been old enough to see UK office when it came out maybe I'd like it, but it's too hard for me to separate it from how much of a cunt Gervais is now. Same with the hallowed radio shows and that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    The ending is terrible, but that show went to shit way before that.
    I wouldn't say way before but yes people do generally complain about the final season without also mentioning that the season prior was also horseshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    The ending is terrible, but that show went to shit way before that.
    Absolutely, the turning point was as soon as they ran out of the fat old twats material and had to write it themselves, with this being prob the absolute nadir of the show:



    Season 5 lol

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    Season 1 done. Very good.
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    Dorne was the biggest waste of space in a story ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Season 1 done. Very good.
    That's basically just a copy of the UK version. From series 2 onwards it's original material and it really finds its feet.

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    GoT was great until they ran out of source material, and then the writing quickly became paint-by-numbers rubbish.

    Edit: soz igor missed your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    That's basically just a copy of the UK version. From series 2 onwards it's original material and it really finds its feet.
    Honestly I’d say this is only true of the very first episode, which makes it almost unwatchable. However, perseverance has certainly paid off.
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    I've never tried the US Office because I saw a few random episodes and it just seemed to be 20 minutes of random shite which just built up to one guy going "THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID" like the whole series was written during that one week about 15 years ago when that was funny.

    I probably should give it a fair shot at some point given the reviews it gets, but I'm not sure I can, because I fully expect it to just be that constantly for like 25 seasons.

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    Seasons 2 to 4 are very funny. The others are mostly watchable, but by season 6 it's all very silly and over the top. The moment it jumped the shark for me was the wilderness episode at the end of season 4.

    But I suppose that's American sitcoms for you.

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    It’s barely comparable to The [actual] Office in that one is a cringefest of awkwardness and the other is just daft.

    Based on the 7 episodes or whatever I’ve watched so far, anyway.
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    Despite the name and inspiration I don't think the two are at all comparable. One was a low-budget punt made for BBC2 which is a brilliantly observed parody of a certain segment of British life at the turn of the century. The American one is a fully fledged American network sitcom with all that comes with that, and a billion series and episodes. Apples and oranges.

    Edit: I've done it to Baz now.

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