Presumably prior to the thing happening people were free to travel to another state to ‘take advantage’ of whatever the rules were there. Now they’ll potentially have no choice but to go to another state, so in short, I’m not really sure what your point is. Let me assure you though, no fence sitting here.Originally Posted by Lewis
The Supreme Court did what they did because banning abortion aligns with the personal beliefs of those who make it up. They wanted what has happened to happen.
Anyone claiming otherwise is either lying or supremely gullible.
If all you're arguing is that abortion should be legal and accessible, then I agree with you, under the right terms. What those terms should be we could discuss, but I am sure that none of you can be arsed. I sure as hell can't.
The only question brought forth by the current ruling is who you think should decide under what terms (if any) should abortion be allowed:
1. The people of each state, via their state representatives.
2. The people of the entire country, via their federal representatives.
3. Unelected members of the judicial with lifetime appointments.
The current state of affairs allows for the first and the second option. The third option was the state of affairs before the latest ruling.
I guess there is a fourth option, which is 'I don't care as long as I get my way.' Judging by the answers to Lewis' question that seems to be the stance some of you have, which is fine, although it strikes me as a bit undemocratic.
States Rights are dumb as fuck and a pre-text to permit malice against those the state doesn't like.
Unlike every other form of government ever?
Isn't the fourth option ironically the most option with the most freedom? Don't have it federal, don't have it state. Leave it to the individuals.
Funny that.
Unless you support abortion right up until the minute its head starts coming out, option four still requires somebody to decide at what point the individual is joined by a viable second individual, and that leaves you with the previous choices.
The law we have is about as good as I think you can make it.
Essentially freely available until viability (currently defined as 24 weeks) and beyond that only where fairly stringent criteria are fulfilled. There's some wiggle room on where the viability line should be drawn given 23 weekers surviving is fairly common now (and there's even been the odd 22 weeker) but it's pretty solid in principle IMO.
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I was just about to link the wider BBC article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61988793
I think this is the first time I've ever had a proper genuine 'Youngsters these days, I don't understand them' moment.
Welcome to the club Jim, it'll be your first of many.
That's one cinema bombing I'd quite happily let MI6 drop the ball on.
Anyone know who this premier league international rapist is then?
I [and some others] once left little piles of stones and maybe stick figure type things around outside that cinema whilst the Blair Witch Project was showing.
Kids these days.
Someone posted it earlier but I didn’t recognise the name. Probably in the soccer thread.
@Spammer
I've heard it's Thomas Partey
I’ve no idea who that is so it’s probably the same one that was posted alright.
This 'who is this Neymar?' act really doesn't work alongside 'Blackpool have signed Waterford's physio', you fucking leprechaun.
Arsenal had a proper media day at their first training session and no sign of Partey being there.Another premier league “star” done for rape. Late 20s and supposedly meant to be going the World Cup. Late 20s, North London, Expected to go to Qatar. Partey, Son, Xhaka, Davies, Hojbjerg, Kane, Torreira
Twitter sez Partey.
I'm a twit
Neymar? What ever are you on about raghead?
Ain't no party like a rapey Partey
There’s photos of him in training
Has twitter not worked out who it is? Pathetic.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/prem...ge.desc/page/6 try and work it out. Need to filter out all the 29 year olds and cross reference with teams going to the world cup and then the ones with caps that haven’t retired from international football, ie Ziyech is safe.
Or just pin it on Kieffer Moore.
I'm a twit
The internet working out who's responsible for something has never gone wrong before.
It's probably all of them. Kyle Walker has been pimping his dog out.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61881412
Shit like this always annoys me. If people want to lose weight and companies sell products designed to help them, what's the fucking problem?
If you want to stay bOdY pOsItIvE, then do so, but please be aware that you look like you fucking stink.
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The most bizarre thing about that is that the company making them have clearly deliberately chosen a curvier body and it's still not enough to stop the BACKLASH.
Christ.She said: "I left the shop shaking.
"I left the shop shaking. In 2022 a large chain is feeding into the narrative that women need to be smaller, to drop a dress size.Someone just fucking nuke the planet."Walking past this in one of your shops could trigger someone and set them off down a path of dieting or disordered eating. Not ok."
Haha that is ridiculous, and I say that as a fat man on a diet. The only thing triggering me is Mcdonalds new menu triggering my saliva glands.
Perhaps she meant wobbling rather than shaking.
As a wise man called Declan once sang, stop the world and let me off.
I think one of the most egregious things about all this stuff is big company are evil as they're in BUSINESS, while poor little brummy mummy is sympathised with as she's just a Mum trying to live her life without being fat shamed. Except she isn't, she runs a very successful business in her own right and any content she's putting out will be designed to generate interest, meaning who knows what the hell she actually thinks. She should have been called out on that, but instead the BBC choose to unconditionally support her.
Emma needs to get a fucking life and BBC has to stop amplifying absolute lunatics.
The BBC and media in general are terrible for platforming people without even the basic fact checking or challenging anything they say, that's how Captain Tom's daughter rinsed a fortune out of the public for charity.
Plus fat people should be executed.
That’s your lots answer to everything.
Fat shaming is bad but this nonsense where people try to act like saying "being obese is unhealthy" is fat shaming is really annoying. I hope you all enjoy this incredibly obvious and boring take, okay cheers.
It's about time somebody said it, Igor.
Usually I'm dubious cus I think most of the time these kinda hysterical weirdos are unrepresentative and get airtime cus it's lazy journos deliberately winding people up to get engagement, but I think the body positivity movement is big enough (fucking massive actually lol!!) and consistent enough in its dangerous dogma that I think it's fair game to find it annoying.
Some people are fat, others are thin, I don't know why there have to be so many furious opinions about it.
Fuck off Mika
Some girls are bigger than others.
You're the one for me, fatty
The fury seems to come in when someone from either camp wants to move from one to the other, which may nod in the general direction of your Lewis Hamilton Classism post the other day.
Fat people don't want other fat people becoming skinny. BODY POSITIVITY. Don't be weightist. And Post-fat people hate fat people more than people that have never been fat.
Same with smokers.
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Thankfully my emphysema positivity campaign only extends to rolling my eyes at the single issue party girls on tinder who have practically their whole bios dedicated to demanding smokers swipe left, rather than leaving supermarkets shaking with anger when I see nicotine gum and shit.
People have got really snipey and jibey about it in recent times. It’s like covid has given a lot of adults a pass, in their own mind anyway, to revert back to thinking they’re in the playground.
I think it might have something to do with the fat fucks causing even more visible damage to our lives than before. They're still being let off easy ofc.
Thankfully a lot of them died during the pandemic.
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