False flags in Moldova now.
False flags in Moldova now.
Someone put a notice up in the foyer, "we have UKRANIANS here. Oleg, Maria and Aleks have just moved in to no four. PLEASE SAY HELLO!".
I've been chuckling at the thought of it all morning. I wonder if they were consulted.
The Venn Diagram of "People (non-sex offenders) taking in Ukrainians" and "Performative Virtue Signallers" is a perfect circle.
Living with them cunts may actually be worse than being stuck in a besieged steel factory.
Last edited by Spikey M; 07-05-2022 at 02:21 PM.
We had 5 figure numbers pledge to take them in and then about 95% reneged on it once they realised the had to actually do it and not just post on Instagram and Twitter about it.Originally Posted by Spikey M
I imagine it's much the same here.
My mum's offered to take a Ukrainian person/family. She couldn't be further from "performative virtue signaller".
You must take after your dad then.
Am I being accused of being a performative virtue signaller? That's certainly a new one.
That was the joke, yes.
I don't even have a Twitter account.
John Caudwell getting newspaper spreads about the family he has taken in is 'performative virtue signalling'. Normal people taking them in is merely racist.
Aye, opportunists looking for free money. And cheap labour.
Whats going on with all this now? Havent heard a thing in ages.
Russia failing catastrophically yet simultaneously flattening eastern cities is clearly boring now.
Russia are still shelling the same cities, but everyone is underground so it's not doing much. So it's a siege, basically, but with Aid being allowed in occasionally. So... yeah...not a siege.
Russian soldiers have also been systemically raping and torturing people while their media pundits are threatening nuclear war on Finland and Sweden for trying to join NATO. They're looking to conscript more soldiers because they're losing shit loads.
All part of the plan.
Beat me to it.
They're going to end up losing Crimea.
If this is a typical Russian conflict then we're probably into the attritional stage at which it's debatable if it's worse to be a civilian caught in the middle or in the Russian army. Interesting to see if they give up despite eventually nearly winning (see Finland) or get bogged down in a messy occupation (Afghanistan). Other countries seem to care a bit more about Ukraine than Georgia or Chechnya though so mildly humiliating climbdown could well be on the cards.
Threatening Crimea is when the tactical nuclear weapons start flying around, so you would like to think that won't happen.
Looks like the Azov boys are finally surrendering, clearing the way for Russia to establish the south-east land corridor to Crimea. Meanwhile, Ukraine have pushed Russia right back to the border outside Kharkiv so the current landscape is probably where they will eventually agree on, although Kherson might remain spicy as it is predominantly ethnic Ukrainian.
Also, Turkey seem to have massive beef with Sweden and Finland for some reason and are going to oppose NATO membership.
Last edited by Ben; 17-05-2022 at 06:20 AM.
Turkey are just trying to keep Russia sweet.
Turkey are in NATO, though. He's just angry they're accommodating the Kurds so he can't off them all.
It's a real shame that coup against Erdogan failed.
It's more of a shame the EU didn't just treat Turkey as a friend, rather than pretending they give a fuck about their human rights record. But hey, buffer states are important. Unless you're NATO.
Politics is such a load of bollocks.
That's the line. I suspect Shinners is closer to the truth. That EU refusal hurt Erdoğan and forced him to seek new friends. He is also incredibly petty.
And - unsurprisingly - "YouGov polls from 2016[164][162] and 2019 have found respondents from France, Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Finland to have the largest net opposition to Turkey's EU bid".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acce...European_Union
I would probably put 2 fingers up to them too if I were Erdogan.
Oh I've just read Turkey got sanctioned by the U.S. in 2019 for buying Russian missiles. That'll explain it. He wants the sanctions lifted before he plays ball.
They would have been buying good ol' Yankee gear from within the EU as well.
Turkey are far more important to NATO than Finland and Sweden would be, so it seems like a pointless fight to pick either way.
:d
Tremendous.
Shit like that is why I have such an issue with the West's take on this. I'd never been that arsed about the illegal war angle, but you absolutely can't sit there and moralise the shit out of Russia's actions when you have that blot on your copybook in recent memory.
Yep. That's been my take the whole way through. Fuck Putin, but Tony Blair and that mong still have their liberty so the high horse they're riding about on can fuck them up the arse as far as I'm concerned.
Not to mention Saudi Arabia currently using British made weapons to do the same shit in Yemen.
Fuck it all.
Indeed. I've never had a particularly high tolerance for hypocrisy based bullshit, but as I venture into my 40s it's genuinely through the floor.
You can moralise on the basis that the Western way of life is superior to theirs and is worth starting illegal wars to protect/spread. That isn't what we do, instead coating it in bullshit universalism (freedomz etc), but it would make more sense.
I can't even distinguish satire from the real thing anymore.
It's George Bush. He used to flub his lines every week.
European War to World War confirmed. Here we go.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-61768875
That's the same conversation that's been happening every year for the past 60+ years. Not really 'news' unless you count sabre rattling as news.
I just cant see China starting a full blown war against South East Asia, Australia, Japan, the seppos etc.
Last edited by Queenslander; 12-06-2022 at 12:02 AM.
Have they won a war against anyone other than themselves in the last century?
That's a question that should be asked more often down here.
The Liberal Party are that desperate for a war against China they have convinced quite few people that they will invade at some point.
Last edited by Queenslander; 12-06-2022 at 12:30 AM.
"Crowded shopping centre hit - 13 dead." doesn't sound that crowded.
Isn't it more 13 confirmed rather than final? Another good military target taken out by the Russians.
Aye, I expect more to come but when you lead with that number, it sounds a bit daft.
It's a weird missile strike that just immediately sets fire to the entire building whilst barely killing anyone in it.
Horrific stuff, really. Rumours are it could be a war crime which of course is absolutely unacceptable in the eyes of the West.
The Western bunting appears to be softening over this and Putin doesn't appear to be stopping (I for one am shocked), so I wonder how long it'll be before the mood shifts and there's some encouragement for a settlement to happen.
Autumn I reckon.
Will all depend on whether zee europeans can figure out a way to ween themselves off Russian energy, which they were planning to do by the end of the year in some form or other.
I'm sure it must still make sense from an American perspective to just continue it as a proxy war to ruin Russia forever, but there are domestic political [good ole isolationism] considerations which might go against that.
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