Seriously....
Seriously....
Not 'we'.Originally Posted by Lewis
The post above is obviously excellent, even if it is not representative of what is occurring.
Yes 'we'.
Charlie's analysed the shit out of us there.
You are not a spokesman for others.
He is. We elected him. You must have missed that while you were away.
Henry is the only one who wins elections here (even when he doesn't), so that's clearly not true.
Nah.
I was speaking about us, not for us. It is 'we' that occupy your time by keeping the board going and giving you an outlet.
Who is 'us'? And far from it being me who needs you it is very clearly the other way around. This board looks pretty dead to me.
When did your ban expire Harold? Did you actually return on the day it was over?
No idea.
Harold's language really doesn't help him, but in the case of the Cologne stuff is the racial origin really irrelevant? It certainly seems relevant in terms of the lack of reporting it.
Who exactly are these knuckle-draggers? The event wasn't even reported properly, let alone surrounded by those with ulterior motives piggy backing on it.
We're all part of the Occupy Harold movement.
Fair enough.
I didn't think it could get much worse but Igor FB'd me a video of his weird mate applying bonjela to his filthy gums. His real life is like a r/deepintoyoutube
Us is the board. If you didn't post and discuss your second-hand opinions here where would you do it?
Well, as I said, you don't speak for the board. My opinions are as 'second hand' as yours, or any body else's.
I know who the actual knuckle draggers are, but I would get banned for saying the truth.
I speak about the board, not for the board. Why do you care if the board 'looks pretty dead' when you often claim not to like most/all of the posters here? If it's simply about being proven right about this sort of shit why not write a blog and attract a more supportive and attentive readership than thirty people you don't care about? No risk of being 'banned for saying the truth' with your own blog.
No, you don't. By saying 'we' and 'us' you are making a claim to speak on behalf of others. I've no reason to like or dislike most people here. As a man of the board and for the board, it's my duty to fight the good fight. Make no mistake, even Henners has, with his tail bewteen his legs, been forced to admit that some brown people from the middle east have a troublesome culture. That's the sort of comment he would have banned me for a few years ago. Of course he's taken it upon himself to warn me for calling Arabic rapists 'trampy Arabs', but progress is progress. The tide is turning. And I'm helping to turn it, by showing peoiple the light myself, and with the contribution of others.
It's actually well documented that there are many of us who think you are a nutter. We are agreed on not needing you.
So if you've got nothing invested in the 'community', why not 'fight the good fight' on a more visible platform? Why limit yourself to people who either don't care or seek to silence you? It doesn't even have to be a single-authored blog. Why not just post all this pish in the Breitbart comment sections, or join a larger political forum?
Blogs are largely for weirdos and attention seekers. I am just here, as a man, doing the best I can in this darned crazy world. If I posted in the Breitbart comments I would only be talking to those who already have sense and who see things correctly. Besides that - don't you see, Lewis? It's me, Harold. It's a topsy turvy world, Lewis, and maybe the problems of 2 people don't amount to a hill of beans. But this is our hill, and these are our beans. I'm the good guy - I can't let the bad guys win. I can't let our children be raised in fear. And in the spirit of fighting the good fight, have some more sense:
You actually sound mentally ill these days. Get help.
If you had anything proper to say, Harold, it wouldn't be directed at a Football Manager fansite's off-topic discussion forum. You'd have your own youtube channel and set of fanboys and subscribers. You do not. You just have us.
Fuck me. Clips, clips and clips.
I get the impression dude that unless you've seen it on youtube, it never happened.
I think you lot are cracking up under the pressure. :/
You'll note that, instead of addressing what I say, the thread title gets changed. What I say is correct and the evidence is mounting.
I think it's probably more that you argue like a fucking child and no-one can be bothered to engage with you anymore.
I like the fact that because everyone disagrees with Harold, that 'we' are all sheep. It couldn't possibly be because Harold is wrong, and everyone else is right
I changed the thread title to better reflect what was going on inside it.
Why didn't you go off and talk about the French stuff in the thread we had about the French stuff? Could it be because you don't really want to talk about that stuff, but rather want to make things about yourself, as you always will?
Let's just take a moment to celebrate Harold using the sentence 'Blogs are largely for weirdos and attention seekers.' to tell us why he won't be getting one. Fucking superb.
Harold, I actually like you when you're talking about FM and tv programs and stuff. The Ric Flair gifs are great as well, but on political stuff you're just fucking mental, which is a shame.
Yes, it's really irrelevant unless you're a racist. You can talk about refugees without bringing their race into it.
The knuckle-draggers are the far right, white supremacist types who want to exploit this kind of thing to close the borders and do nothing to ameliorate the dire consequences of middle-eastern wars, for which the west (apologisms - ohnoes!) is in large part responsible.
Well it makes me wonder. My views are probably the majority view of people in this country, more or less.I like the fact that because everyone disagrees with Harold, that 'we' are all sheep. It couldn't possibly be because Harold is wrong, and everyone else is right
You said earlier their culture was a factor....the Arabic culture, is that? Think about it.
Or maybe a thousand sexual assaults in one night And attempted and admitted cover up by the police, again!) is just a bit worthy of discussion? Just maybe. I suggest the recent mass influx of Arabs to Germany coinciding with this unrecedented mass rape/assault is not merely a coincidence. But you're doing what is expected, what the feminists and the wacist! lot always do. Instead of combating a real problem, with real women really being raped and assaulted, you're more concerned with what people say or write about the perpetrators. Real fucking man of the people, aren't you.The knuckle-draggers are the far right, white supremacist types who want to exploit this kind of thing to close the borders and do nothing to ameliorate the dire consequences of middle-eastern wars, for which the west (apologisms - ohnoes!) is in large part responsible.
I agree with your second point - we should withdraw from everywhere, including all help we give them (so as not to 'intefere') and let them sort their shit out themsleves. Let the actual knucke dragging commence while we watch.
@ Igor, sorry mate!
You're just chucking accusations of racism around like confetti. Why is race irrelevant when it appears to be one (very large) racial group who've committed these particular crimes? I'd agree if we were looking at one incident then citing race wouldn't be justified, but we're not. We're seemingly looking at a group of people with a cultural background that suggests it's ok to treat women in this fashion? How can that be irrelevant to the matter at hand?
Yeah, and where are these people? I see far more examples of people jumping to denounce a racist bandwagon than an actual racist bandwagon itself.
I don't know the discussion here, but this question sort of answers itself I reckon - in that Race isn't the same thing as "a group of people with a cultural background" as you put it.
It's like saying Asians are cruel to animals because Japanese fishermen torture whales and rape dolphins or whatever. Kind of.
Yeah, that's a fair point and needs to be recognised. That said, those involved will have differing backgrounds and values to the people they assaulted and I fail to see why this can't be discussed.
And if it can be discussed or (at the other end of the scale) isn't remotely relevant, why was there seemingly a cover up?
You're conflating culture with race in exactly the same way Harold is. Insistence that racism is justified in this instance doesn't make it any less racism.
The French National Front. Those nice neo-Nazi's in Germany who have been kicking off over this. (And Harold).
These far right groups are growing in influence all over Europe. You shouldn't need to ask who they are.
But to be clear, I'm not saying we shouldn't discuss or address this, including what factors cause it to be an issue amongst (a minority of) the refugees.
So if I used the term 'Arabic culutre' you wouldn't understand?
The reason they are growing is because of people like you who insist that legititimate views and concerns are 'racist'.The French National Front. Those nice neo-Nazi's in Germany who have been kicking off over this. (And Harold).
These far right groups are growing in influence all over Europe. You shouldn't need to ask who they are.
I'm not insisting racism is justified, I'm merely saying that the different culture(s) of the races of the people involved needs to be recognised as a causal factor. No more, no less. If people want to treat women as second class citizens in societies where that's the norm then that's their lookout, but on my watch? Nope, not having that.
Fair enough, I was talking more of the response in England, but I'd agree with that. That they're growing might suggest that the current stance the left are taking on these sort of events just isn't working though.
Then that's the issue. Race and culture are distinct concepts. They are not related in this kind of way.
How can one be racist against Muslims then?
I realise I might as well be typing from Harold's account while posting that, but the definitions seem to be being twisted to suit.
You can't be racist against Muslims, or any other religious belief.
Well, as usually happens when I discuss things with you Henners, agreement is reached.
Yay!
Oh and Harold, just so you don't feel left out, I enjoyed those Douglas Murray videos. He really is very good.
What was the Halloween thing at Yale about?
Some professor lolled at the university sending an e-mail out warning people not to wear 'offensive' Halloween costumes, so all the idiots mobilised.
I missed it at the time. Any rofls to be had from linkage now?
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