Not a chance he stays there for the duration.
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Not a chance he stays there for the duration.
Has Toto said anything yet or are they just straight off to Switzerland or wherever CAS is?
Not a thing that I’ve seen anyway. It’ll all be lost when it wasn’t immediate, he would have been hilarious.
It'll be radio silence now there's solicitors involved. The next 2 championships will have been won before this one is left alone.
Is Bottas the only Mercedes employee to have spoken to any sort of media, I've not seen any others.
Can someone explain the mass Lewis hate? I really don't understand it.
Probably because he’s ‘woke’ or whatever the term they use is.
Speaks in favour of BLM, LGBT etc
That's how it feels to me. People calling him 'pretentious' because he's trying to make the world a better place.
If you go back ten years, people justified their hatred of Hamilton because of his doing outrageous, offensive things, like wearing clothes and liking music. Nowadays it's because he does/says woke things in a sport with an extremely non-woke culture. Some people say it's because they're tired of him winning all the time (I don't see this as a valid reason for personal dislike).
The truth, however much people would scream with furious indignation when it was put to them, is that it's because he's black. There are a lot of people who are (mostly subconsciously) just not happy with the idea of a black man with an 'alternative' lifestyle dominating the highly incestuous world of top level motorsport.
I loved him from the GP2 days and still do. A brilliantly exciting racing driver with genuine greatness on track and his own way of doing things off track. Would he and I be mates, doubt it, but that's not what it's about.
He's an amazing driver, best ever, but if we all liked everyone then sport would be as boring as he is in an interview.
Yesterday wasn't even remotely for a lol at Hamilton, for me it was all for the fanboys and the rest for Wolf. I could listen to that "Michael" all day.
The non-dom tax thing is often trotted out as well, without any real appreciation of how that works or considering the multitude of other rich people who do the same and get a free pass. 90% of the time it's just another dog whistle.
I read a fun (ie very boring) thing today about the apparent re-classification of the word 'Any' as it pertains to rules and regulations of the sport. Whereas before it was taken to mean 'All/All Applicable' in the light of yesterdays rulings that may no longer be the case, which makes the Technical regs an interesting read. For example; 'Any braking must be carried out by the driver' could mean something different today than it did yesterday (dust off the ABS lads).
I want it as a message alert.Originally Posted by Giggles
I'd never blame anyone for tax dodging. Evey last one of us would do the same if we could.
Lando has recently moved to Monaco as well. Let’s see if he gets the same accusations thrown at him.
Nobody knows who 'Lando' is. Hamilton seems like a wanker, but so does every top Formula 1 driver, so the fanboys like Floyd ('his own way of doing things off track' lol) are as weird as the seething haters.
Gamers do
I hate when they bring wealth into it, as well. "He's not as common as he says he is." I might never live to see another kid from a working class background get near the grid, let alone top the tree.
He's not a clone. I respect people who are not clones. My mum seethes about him due to 'pontificating'. Good on him for producing that seethe, and frankly good on Max for making me seethe, too.
Lando and 'George' (not sure why only one gets the inverted commas, but that's how it is) are clones.
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In other news, Toto seems to have recovered. There’s a video doing the rounds of him crowdsurfing at a party after the GP.
'I loved him from the GP2 days...'
They should all get inverted commas.
The thing is there's only 20 of them, so first name terms are kind of natural. It's not like it's football and we don't know which Carlos you're talking about.
"Is that fat Lando or Crolando?"
As irrational as my hatred of it is, it boils my shite. We don’t know any of them.
You'd hate motorcycles, then. "It's an all Marquez front row followed by six Espargaros, a couple of Pons' and the entire Hayden family."
What does Lewis have against Lando ‘Lando’ Norris? Sounds like a hater to me.
A fellow milk drinker too.
I am in the pro Hamilton ('Lewis') camp. Terrific driver and I never had any issues with any off the track shit, which I rarely, if ever, follow.
In the most 'Hollywood' way possible. That is what is pretentious. If you are woke in the US, I assume that you are a moron. If you are woke anywhere else, you are just trying to be cool.
Verstappen going straight for the number 1 on the car
Beta move.
I think that's the first time since 2013 someone has used it. Lewis has used 44 the whole way and Rosberg retired immediately after winning his.
Still no word on the Mercedes official appeal yet.
They have til Thursday, but Lewis has asked them not to do it. I get why, but I think they still will. I don't think they genuinely expect the result to change, but the objective must be to end up getting Masi out of the job. It'll be an interesting 2022 if he somehow stays in the chair for it.
Even Red Bull (who were bitching about the stewards bias seconds before being handed the title on a plate) came out and said they would consider their future if the officiating didn't improve.
It's a pretty hard one to find an obvious solution for. I don't think this series was designed for concepts like 'track limits' and 'leaving space', those things always used to happen automatically because otherwise you'd probably die.
Another problem is when you have set rules, yet then give the race director grounds to ignore them and do whatever he wishes.
Some of you may remember, but I'm not sure if I'm right on this. But back when Ferrari were a thing, did they not threaten to pull out unless they got their way with things?
It's highly unlikely, but if Mercedes did it over this is could cause chaos.
There's not a chance in hell that Masi keeps his job.
I still don't get why he was making decisions and offering deals to teams after dodgy overtakes, surely that is the remit of the race stewards? Would be interesting to hear if that was something that previous Race Directors got involved with.
Charlie Whiting probably did all of it 50 times over, the difference was they didn't air his patter to aid THE SHOW. This is all Netflix eating the sport.
Richard Williams good on this in the Guardian.
I thought that may be case - we never heard it before, I guess. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they stopped broadcasting it next season.
Wouldn't firing him mean admitting that they did something wrong?
Netflix eating the sport, and the show isn't even good.
There's not a chance they fire him.
He'll resign, claiming he gave it his best but the teams wanted change etc, then be given a nice promotion to an office somewhere within the FIA.
This is all basically "my team lost so it's all a big problem and everything is fucked" or "my team won so there's no problem and nothing is fucked", and the other way around it'd be the exact same. Everyone needs to settle the fuck down.
Not really. Had the race restarted with the lapped cars in between, what could Red Bull possibly complain about?
They were already complaining on the radio about that very thing.
It's sport all over - your team loses and everything is wrong, your team wins and everything is right. And in a couple of months everyone has calmed down and the cycle continues. All this 'the sport is dead' shite is laughable just because you're hurt at a result.
Giggles is right. Hamilton suffered from two or three spurts of extreme bad luck at the worst possible moment. That's sport. The officials were incompetent and applied the rules incorrectly, but that's nothing to do with the drivers.
In 2008 he benefited from extreme good luck to take the title, this is the other side.
Well, yes, they would complain, but I do not think that there would be any grounds for any sort of formal complaint.
As to that 'being sport', well, yes.
I'm not that bothered who wins but this seems a very different circumstance than I've seen before. The procedure for these things should be the same on race one as they are in race 21. You can see from the reactions of the other drivers that this was a very odd way to end the race and even though I highly doubt it was in order to engineer a specific result that is the impression it left with plenty of people.
That's SIR Lewis, you peasants.
His mother is the whitest old white lady ever. No wonder he keeps her out the way.
Wasn't sure which of them you were talking about then.
You see her at plenty of races so not that out of the way.
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