They don't, but a good watch nonetheless.
They don't, but a good watch nonetheless.
Unless new evidence came up, I am not sure why Avery deserves a retrial. Dassey definitely does.
http://chadsteele.blogspot.co.uk/201...ce-in.html?m=1
Interesting view on the scientific evidence.
Oh and on the evidence that wasn't presented, why does the DNA under the hood of Hallbach's car mean anything?
She'd been there somewhere up to 5 times, to see a man who worked/owned a salvage yard. He could have quite easily taken a look at something in her engine for her. Ooh-er missus aside.
People never seem to state this when it's raised though.
You what? Well in advance of the trial they were worried about what the FBI might do to refute their planted blood claims, and that (now I no more about EDTA) could only mean they were going to produce 'evidence' to suggest that EDTA wasn't present. As the writer of that blog says, the witness they called did mention that using only 3 samples and extrapolating wasn't correct, but she sure as shit didn't explain the rest of it in the sort of layman terms that are obviously required when trying to convince a jury, as the blog does.
Same type of thing goes for the DNA on the bullet - unless I'm not recalling correctly or it wasn't shown, there was no witness called to say once the negative control is compromised IT ISN'T A TEST anymore.
I thought Strang and Buting were both top gents, but (from what we saw) they were pretty poor in these areas. How hard would it have been to court two experts to come and talk for you on the subjects, explaining it properly? Instead they chose a Woman (sorry, not good enough in rural 'Murica) who had no teeth to do so and she muffed it.
Haven't seen the link but the dna tests being completely inconclusive was most definitely mentioned.
I'm pretty sure that was in respect of the EDTA in blood.
For the DNA, Katz managed to wing it and suggest that it wasn't that much of a big deal as Avery's DNA was still present. Which again, as a layperson on these matters, I initially thought sounded reasonable (while still thinking they could have planted it). Had the defence explained it in the way that blog does (you should read it) and got a credible witness to do so, I wouldn't have thought the same for shit.
Which either means the Blog is wrong, or they muffed it.
I'll read it later as I'm in a meeting but the bullet dna test should have not been used AT ALL. It was completely flawed.
She is superb.
Guaranteed she'd be in the shackles market too.
Interestingly, if you search for this:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=an...nette+levy+age
It's not immediately apparent and there are some results that have been removed under the European Data Protection act.
It's disappointing that (we live in a society where) women still need to do that shit.
Steven who?
Ok, just read the blog. Both of those were brought up but I guess as a scientist myself they were obvious enough. That's the reason I said earlier that the DNA tests were complete bollocks, both of them. If anything, bringing up any of them, let along both, as evidence was downright cheating from the prosecution and one definitely fuels the 'planted evidence/corrupt state' fire.
I don't know how much of the closing statements we were shown, but I did think that the defense did not bring all the inconsistencies up in a loud and convincing enough manner there.
Speaking of the closing statements, Krantz plastering the grinning faces of those two slime-ball cops onto the monitor and then essentially saying 'do you believe these lovely policeman or that odd looking man over there?' was rather infuriating.
They talk about using bleach, but surely they can pick up that bleach has been used to clean up blood. You see in it TV Show with black lights etc... So if they did clean up all the blood they should of seen it?
I did wonder while watching (particularly after the verdict) whether Strang or Buting had mis-judged the (geographical) area that they were operating in and therefore the jury too. I don't suppose there's much demand for a couple of city slickers to come and represent the underclass in backwater America, so presumably this would have been their first time dealing with a community where cattle rustling is probably generally about as serious as it gets and everyone knows and (more importantly) trusts the police.
It's one thing trying to convince a jury that an inner city group of cops they've never even met are guilty of planting evidence, but another entirely trying to convince people who've probably had their cars towed through the snow by some of them personally the same.
They were obviously forced to try in the circumstances, but I fear they misjudged the difficulty of pulling it off, despite Strang saying "it's something you'd never want to do".
Why was the jury allowed to be from Manitowac when the Averys were well known as scummy cunts?
I'm no forensic expert, I'm Yevrah (I hope Lewis read this thread one day, orgasm on the spot) but I'm pretty sure that even dousing the shit out of somewhere with bleach is still going to leave a shitload of evidence, particularly in a garage that looked like it still had things put there in the 1970s in it.
One more: Any evidence found months after the initial searches can fuck right off. Do your job properly and find it the first time around.
Strang has addressed this since the show aired (hell, I think I did in the thread earlier too) and his point was that they'd have struggled to form an objective jury from anywhere in Wisconsin after that press conference where Krantz explained how it all 'happened' took place.
My gut feeling was that while they were obviously better lawyers than anything that poor bastard Dassey ended up with, they probably weren't of the calibre required to get that sort of request granted.
I've definitely heard before that getting the right jury is over half the battle in such a case.
The absolute worst part of any closing speech was the absolutely disgusting and emotive language used by the prosecution in Dassey's case about his sexual lust taking over and him helping himself.
I was ready to smash through the tv and step into his arsehole at that point.
Its embarrassing all round. Bet there's hundreds of similar cases all over the US.
Can you imagine what it's like in South America? Russia? China?
As I said earlier, imagine been stuck with a public defendant (Len K says hi) instead of ultra expensive lawyers. You'll be locked within five minutes.
An IQ of -12 + Len K and you'd be absolutely fucked.
It'd probably be worse with a higher IQ actually as you'd understand both the gravity and graveness of the situation, while being able to do fuck all about it.
Can you imagine fucking mert representing you and having to pay for the privilege?
He paid them about 400k dollars, right? Now, I have no idea what lawyers actually cost, but given the length of the case/trial and that I assume as a lawyer during that time you don't do any other work either, and by that it just doesn't seem like a very astronomical salary for them.
Really fucking admire both of them though. That Strang dude is a real film type. Every time I see him, I feel as if I'm watching Dustin Hoffman in a film.
Yep. If you're not already aware, Strang's become something of a sex symbol online.
Avery settled on $400k compensation and the previous lawyers took 40% of that, so he had $240k to play with. I don't know/didn't note how long they worked on the trial for, but I'm guessing you're right in that that sort of money won't get you that far.
Their fees have probably skyrocketed.
Didn't know that, no
In fairness, there were a few times where I was sure that saucy reporter you all talk about was just about to bite her lip when he was going on during the press-sessions.
Kratz has probably knocked a few out over her.
The Innocence Project's website is a disgrace. The 334 people they've exonerated, all that work, simply undone by a shit website.
Don't take my word for it, take the word of the Guardian's Lilit Marcus:
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...lix-sex-symbol
And whichever twisted brainfail made this...
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