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    This may be a combination of Marvel fatigue (which is definitely setting in now) and how good the first one was, but Guardians of the Galaxy II is really quite crap and massively overlong.

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    And five post credit scenes (3 of which are absolute shit)? Get the fuck.

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    Guardians 2 definitely isn't as good. The stuff with Ego is probably better than anything involving Ronin but on the whole it's a worse film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Guardians 2 definitely isn't as good. The stuff with Ego is probably better than anything involving Ronin but on the whole it's a worse film.
    100%

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    The prison break is the best standalone scene in any of the films.

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    Watched Spiderman Homecoming this morning and for me, it's up there with Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy. Perfect amount of character building vs. things hitting each other.

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    I like Homecoming a lot and it helps that they didn't waste half the film doing the origin story again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Watched Spiderman Homecoming this morning and for me, it's up there with Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy. Perfect amount of character building vs. things hitting each other.
    Before Spider Verse came out it was arguably the best Spiderman film.

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    I'd include Spider-Man 2 in that particular argument.

    Not that it matters because Spider-Verse still wins.

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    I agree with that statement as well.

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    Slightly hijacking Yev's thread: I've just watched X-men: Apocalypse - it's not bad but I'm hoping Disney can Marvel-ifiy it a bit. Shame Hugh Jackman's time has gone as he was the absolute perfect Wolverine. Would love some sort of X-men/Deadpool/Avengers cross-over shenanigans

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    Apocalypse is a total snoozefest you mad bastard.

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    We did at least get Logan out of Jackman before he left the role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Apocalypse is a total snoozefest you mad bastard.
    Although it wasn't as bad as Dark Phoenix, which was such a good comic arc.

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    It wasn't great, but I was just in the mood for it. Dark Phoenix I'm still yet to watch but not got high hopes.

    Someone just needs to make a series of great X-men movies, and if anyone can, Disney can. And also they need to have Gambit in them

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    The best X-Men films, in order, are Logan, Days of Future Past and X-Men 2. First Class, The Wolverine and X-Men are fine. New Mutants, X-Men 3 and Apocalypse are shite, alongside the Wolverine origin film. Not even bothered with Dark Pheonix. If Famke Janssen couldn't sell me that story no-one can, she can Xenia Onatopp me to death any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    It wasn't great, but I was just in the mood for it. Dark Phoenix I'm still yet to watch but not got high hopes.

    Someone just needs to make a series of great X-men movies, and if anyone can, Disney can. And also they need to have Gambit in them
    X-men 1 & 2 were pretty good I thought. I also liked Days of Future Past a lot.

    Although yes, more Gambit is needed.

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    I'd be surprised if Feige plumped for the same obvious X-Men as were the main ones in the Fox films. I suppose there's not much getting away from Professor X and Magneto but really I'd love it if they found a good way to swerve them and Wolverine, Jean Grey, etc. in the first instance.

    Get some Gambit in there, give me some Cyclops who isn't such a fucking drip, just something a little different.

    EDIT: X-Men 1, X2, First Class and Days of Future Past are all good. The rest not so much but they've all got their moments.

    The fastball special with Frasier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I'd be surprised if Feige plumped for the same obvious X-Men as were the main ones in the Fox films. I suppose there's not much getting away from Professor X and Magneto but really I'd love it if they found a good way to swerve them and Wolverine, Jean Grey, etc. in the first instance.

    Get some Gambit in there, give me some Cyclops who isn't such a fucking drip, just something a little different.

    EDIT: X-Men 1, X2, First Class and Days of Future Past are all good. The rest not so much but they've all got their moments.

    The fastball special with Frasier.
    There are loads of cool X-Men characters that haven't been used, quite a few were in the decent TV show The Gifted. Polaris especially so who is the daughter of Magneto.

    Fantomex would be really cool as would The Starjammers (an alien group who are led by Cyclops' Dad who is very Han Solo-esque), you can also bring in Forge who had some cool stories with Storm. I also like Colossus' sister as well but I think she was used in The New Mutants (which I have yet to watch).

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    My wife wants to watch Wonderwoman 1984 for some reason.

    Is it a shite superhero pew-pew flick like the majority of these, or a decent film like Spiderman Homecoming?
    I'm a twit

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    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Eye-Scream_(Earth-616)

    If it's not Eye-Scream I don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    My wife wants to watch Wonderwoman 1984 for some reason.

    Is it a shite superhero pew-pew flick like the majority of these, or a decent film like Spiderman Homecoming?
    It's shite, which is a shame as WonderWoman was brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Eye-Scream_(Earth-616)

    If it's not Eye-Scream I don't care.
    Including banana split? Holy shit, he's too OP to be included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Eye-Scream_(Earth-616)

    If it's not Eye-Scream I don't care.
    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Soft_Serve_(Earth-616)

    We can also have a beautiful romance in the film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    There are loads of cool X-Men characters that haven't been used, quite a few were in the decent TV show The Gifted. Polaris especially so who is the daughter of Magneto.

    Fantomex would be really cool as would The Starjammers (an alien group who are led by Cyclops' Dad who is very Han Solo-esque), you can also bring in Forge who had some cool stories with Storm. I also like Colossus' sister as well but I think she was used in The New Mutants (which I have yet to watch).
    She is, though Anna-Taylor Joy is not worth the watch alone for that heap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    My wife wants to watch Wonderwoman 1984 for some reason.

    Is it a shite superhero pew-pew flick like the majority of these, or a decent film like Spiderman Homecoming?
    I watched it recently and it is terrible, really poor compared to the first film. Not even pew pew though, it's almost like a TV film. Even just switching your brain off for it is bad, never mind when you start thinking about all the fucking plot holes.

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    Review nails WW84, tells you the plot but is it that bad: https://youtu.be/PeieblTIw7A

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    The first Wonder Woman film was complete bollocks. No idea why it got such positive reviews.

    In Marvel news: there's a Hawkeye TV show coming to Disney+

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    The Hawkeye thing looks dull as shit.

    The first WW was better than average but overrated (especially the third act is pretty bad), even if some of the fish out of water stuff in the beginning is charming. WW84 is an insult to filmmaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    The first Wonder Woman film was complete bollocks. No idea why it got such positive reviews.

    In Marvel news: there's a Hawkeye TV show coming to Disney+
    Hard agree. It was awful.

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    Thor Ragnarok is probably the best Thor film, but is weird in that it's basically an out and out comedy without being particularly laugh out loud funny. Good ratio of narrative vs. things hitting each other though.

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    And Chris Hemsworth does comedy acting like this.

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    The best thing about Ragnarok is that it introduces Korg, who is the single best feature of the entire MCU up to this point.

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    Black Panther is alright. Wakanda a cracking setting, but the film lacks a punch to make it compete with the best Marvel efforts.

    Avengers Infinity Wars is good, but I thought the end was properly lame.

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    Black Panther is a rare example of the opposite of the Marvel villain problem. Wakanda's a good setting as you say but it's a fairly so-so film on the whole but with a good villain propping it up a bit. I think Jordan as Killmonger is really good.

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    Ant Man and the Wasp and Captain Marvel are both pretty good, with some nice set up for Endgame, which I'll watch today.

    Quite excited about that, it's been a long road.

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    I didn't care for Ant Man and the Wasp at all but yeah, Captain Marvel is fun.

    Given you've largely enjoyed this so far you should like Endgame and having watched it all so close together be able to fully appreciate how many things they tie into it.

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    The problem with Captain Marvel was that her only weakness was being just too damn sassy and independent, which makes her a crap character, because how do you write her a typical superhero weakness without Disney putting a bomb in your car?

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    That is definitely true and... well, I'll wait until Yev's a film or two further in before adding what I was going to add.

    The "Just A Girl" scene in that film was fun but the song choice could hardly have been more "LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING!!"

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    Endgame is good, but could and perhaps should have been so much better. Chief problem is the time travel stuff, which is absolute balls, but somewhat redeemed by the last 15 minutes.

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    Yeah, time travel just always introduces inconsistencies and stuff. It was still good but I was sad that was the way they chose to solve it.

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    I have attempted both Black Panther and Captain Marvel and turned them both off bored.

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    Onto phase 4

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    Bloody hell Yev, rattling through these.
    I'm a twit

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    I don't fuck about Baz.

    Sadly, but on balance I was probably right before I started about whether they were worth watching. They're kids films, albeit probably very good kids films, but kids films nonetheless - So many times I watched things happen that made me think I'd have loved that when I was younger.

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    I watched 1989 Batman again last night and I completely missed the fact Vicki Vale is basically distracting the Joker with an alluded to blowjob in the finale in previous viewings

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    This amused me:



    I watched Ten Rings and The Eternals recently. The former was better than I thought it would be (but still descended into a CGI punch-fest) and the latter was all over the place. They did that thing where they assume I will care about the main characters whilst giving me absolutely no reason to. It was ok as a film but there were far too many characters for it to hold together with any real weight of story.

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    That's basically a recreation of the photo I posted (the one of me with my mate) that started Head-gate circa 2003.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    This amused me:



    I watched Ten Rings and The Eternals recently. The former was better than I thought it would be (but still descended into a CGI punch-fest) and the latter was all over the place. They did that thing where they assume I will care about the main characters whilst giving me absolutely no reason to. It was ok as a film but there were far too many characters for it to hold together with any real weight of story.
    Don't read the below, Yev:
    Toggle Spoiler

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    I've now watched The Eternals and:
    Toggle Spoiler

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