I honestly have no idea what you're arguing about or towards. There are climate solutions that are available that can help reduce the emissions we are omitting but the only way to do this is through governments implementing change globally.
I honestly have no idea what you're arguing about or towards. There are climate solutions that are available that can help reduce the emissions we are omitting but the only way to do this is through governments implementing change globally.
It really is very simple.
We have a problem in that our environment is dying.
It is dying because we enjoy doing things that kill it.
We are not going to stop doing enough of the things that kill it, because we enjoy doing them.
Therefore the solution needs to be one that doesn't rely on not doing those things.
If that isn't the starting point at this stage, when we have what, 10-40 years left? We're just wasting time.
Governments are not going to implement enough global change because people will vote them out if they do, so my point is that it's ridiculous to still be banging on about it at this stage.Originally Posted by Kikó
Retrofitting buildings doesn't stop people doing things.
Changing energy resources to renewable energy sources.
Improving the end to end flow of products (circular economies)
Improving grid efficiencies.
Improving agricultural practicies.
I mean read the fucking report.
How does that get us to the 60%?
My entire point in one sentence.
We're fucked. It's done.
I agree with you completely.
For the same reason it is seen as 'bad', people with vested interests in other fuels have successfully lobbied against it for decades.
Imagine how many trees the Chinese could plant in a hurry.
It is and it isn't. It doesn't help when we had temperatures of up to 46 degrees celsius for over a week,arsonists going about willy nilly,complete lack of forest control and planning,underfunded and under-equipped firefighting units and hard to reach mountainous areas that planes can't reach. It's a shit situation of epic proportions. On the plus side,there is nothing more to be burned now anyway so we were covered for the next couple of years.
Let's face it. You're much more interested in debating why things won't work, rather than actively trying to contribute to a solution.
And hence fulfilling your argument of why the solution won't work (because 'simple' people like you won't read it). You can't lose.
Yeah Yevrah, get back in the laboratory and sort it out.
I am enjoying the perspective this is bringing. It definitely takes the edge off knowing that at some point in the future we will all be consumed by a fire tornado.
Nah, it's still Britain. We'll just boil to death in flood water.
Can you take your negativity to another thread? I want only why we can do this. I've thought about this for 20 years so I don't need any negative shit.
There are some cool companies who I like who are trying to produce solutions for this:
https://orbitalmarine.com/
https://envopap.com/
https://www.seedrs.com/mootral
https://clim8invest.com/
Don't worry Keeks, it'll be too hot to care about anything soon.
I've requested a subforum for positive climate change posts. BRB.
Better be a good supply of sun cream or I’m absolutely fucked.
Burn like a bitch.
There’s no reason we can’t implement some of the solutions, but I totally agree it’ll need governments to force the population to do so via regulation. Will democracy enable that if it means your lower income citizens can’t afford cars, people are priced out from foreign holidays etc. Seems a political suicide.
We're not teenagers anymore, so it has absolutely nothing to do with 'winning' or 'losing' (and it's utterly moronic of you to think so), but does have everything to do with realism and pragmatism, which is why I find it interesting.
The reality of the situation is this (from 2019 but we've had a Pandemic since then):
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...-cost-billionsThe majority of the carbon emission reduction pledges for 2030 that 184 countries made under the Paris Agreement aren’t nearly enough to keep global warming well below 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius). Some countries won’t achieve their pledges, and some of the world's largest carbon emitters will continue to increase their emissions, according to a panel of world-class climate scientists.
People who still think this approach will work are utterly deluded, so we need one that will.
My advice, if you are really interested, is to go over the IPCC report itself instead of reading articles about it. They always misrepresent things.
If by "it" you mean keeping the average temperature below the currently targeted threshold, then I do not think that we will. If by "it" you mean not disappearing within the next century or two, then I am with you.
If a new coal power plant is built, and that power plant is equipped with carbon capture technology so that no CO2 at all is released to the environment, then what is the problem in calling that "clean"?
The book is interesting and comes with pretty pictures.
Don't forget women's education.
It isn't that big. Commercial aviation contributes considerably less emissions than many people seem to believe.
The only genuine methods to keeping the temperature from rising above the currently decided thresholds all involve either carbon capture or sun blocking via aerosols/space shields/whatever. Massive scale technological methods. "Decreasing our consumerism" or whatever will never come even remotely close to solving anything.
Make sure that you think ahead and choose a patch of land that will be fertile in the future, not necessarily today.
Would certainly help. Why don't we do it? If you're interested: https://rootsofprogress.org/devanney...e-nuclear-flop
Why would we do it? We went through tremendous pains to get to a place where 99% of the people on the planet are not subsistence farmers. I don't know about you, but I do not want my daughter to go back to being a subsistence farmer.
The best part about Drawdown is that the solution with the biggest impact according to them (refrigerant management) is something that I bet no one has ever heard being discussed. Simply not as sexy as wind turbines, solar panels, and organic handbags.
Is that effectively home freezer tech on a massive scale?
Pepe, you are really good at this stuff.
No.
There are more and more AC units being installed all over the world. In rich countries like the US, some ACs are really old. Anyway, as AC systems get old, they start leaking. Smaller window box units, you just throw away. Every AC has a refrigerant of sort. Turns out that most refrigerants are very, very strong greenhouse gases (if greenhouse gases were footballers, refrigerants would be Messi, while CO2 would be a five year old with no legs), so preventing them from ending in the atmosphere is extremely important.
I saw a cool company trying to solve for this the other day. Article here https://www.economist.com/science-an...ut-nasty-gases
She's half French lad. Risky move.
A decent start would be to go back to central AC systems rather than individual ones for each unit/apartment.
Having checked the company out, they are just a shape memory alloy manufacturer, which they claim could be used for many things, including cooling units. They do not build ACs or anything of the sort. Between them claiming their technology is useful and someone actually building a cooling system using a SMA is a big step, but we'll see. There are tons of really interesting technologies out there, but going from new technology with high potential to actual product on the market tends to be a massive hurdle.
I agree with your overall point that solutions for a more sustainable world are out there though. As with COVID, however, goalposts will continuously move and we will be told that we need radical change and we need it TODAY no matter what.
Half French, half Mexican, all American.
Ok, now she just sounds like a wrestler.Half French, half Mexican, all American.
Yep, the owner of the company is more interested in commercialising the material rather than specifically targeting AC but I guess it's pretty cool to see a use case.
I still think Chyyyna are the key to this. If they can force through the types of changes needed, then others will follow suit.
And we’ve seen how quick they can mobilise in a crisis. We’d have a second Amazon (forest) in no time. And then they’ll chop it for wood.
https://www.facebook.com/11224937215...4839058562834/.�� ��COAST CHOPPERS GO TO GREECE TO FIGHT FIRES����
Today Sunshine Coast company McDermott Aviation sent four water-bombing helicopters to Greece to help fight the terrible fires burning out of control there.
Two choppers were loaded on to a Russian Antonov aircraft carrier at Wellcamp Airport in Toowoomba. The carrier was then flying on to Perth to collect two more of the company's choppers before flying on to Sri Lanka and then Athens.
Simon McDermott said seven crew including pilots and engineers were also heading over in the Antonov.
He said before loading the choppers on to the aircraft his team would remove the head and blades of each helicopter. This will mean a relatively quick reassemble in Athens before the teams and their machines can do their bit to help out with the fires.
(Photo supplied McDermott Aviation)
Algeria's on fire as well.
Just popping in to say I received my certificate the other day for being a Carbon Literacy Champion.
I'm a twit
What pittance a week do you get for having that?
Just popping in to say I received my certificate the other day for being a Carbon Literacy Champion.
I hate this World.
Baz doing his bit at least. Well in Baz.
Well tough shit, because Baz is going to save it for £2.50 a week.
I would put money on Baz is no more doing his bit than he was before, he now just has a certificate that says he is.
Outstanding from all concerned really.
Less moaning, more getting it in the Pilot episode.
Baz.
Nothing at all.
I'm a twit
You've changed man. You've.... what's the opposite of selling out? Buying in, I guess?
You've BOUGHT IN, you fraud.
Excuse me, do you question all certificates?
Our Bucky’s just got his ducklings 3 badge at swimming.
Can he even do butterfly though?
Yay got my results - very happy with 1st and am now officially a Bachelor of Arts. Looking forward to starting my masters next year.
Gerra job, love!
I'm a twit
A real Carbon Literacy Champion wouldn't be so supportive of paper being wasted on certificates. Shameful. Recycle your Pokemon cards immediately.
Baz.
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