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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

    10 22.73%
  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

    1 2.27%
  • Satan's Sinn Fein

    0 0%
  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
  • I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman

    4 9.09%
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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    Why are Labour so strong in Wales?

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    It's twenty years behind England.

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    Looking at twitter tonight, I think they've finally lost the plot. Left wing bubble just will not accept that not everyone is as ANGRY about the Tories as they are.

    Seen a lot of 'Remember the 2012 Olympics?' tweets as well, fucking hell are people this pig ignorant?

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    lol at Nicola Sturgeon saying she will take her second referendum to the Supreme Court. I would simply bait them into holding an illegal one, and then execute the thousand most influential party members.

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    As ever, your Twitter feed will always contain whatever flavour of crank you choose. They're always there, and they're very stupid.

    If you so desire you'll find plenty of the right wing reply guys telling them to fuck off and live elsewhere if they're not constantly on the cusp of climax with every aspect of British life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    lol at Nicola Sturgeon saying she will take her second referendum to the Supreme Court. I would simply bait them into holding an illegal one, and then execute the thousand most influential party members.
    U ok hun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    lol at Nicola Sturgeon saying she will take her second referendum to the Supreme Court. I would simply bait them into holding an illegal one, and then execute the thousand most influential party members.
    She won't even win it, unless there's an economic crash.

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    They can't have one without Westminster allowing it, and doing so would be idiotic, especially on similar grounds to the last one that gamed it all entirely in their favour. Just tell them to fuck off at every turn, and stop offering more concessions and/or money to incentivise the hamster wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Imagine living in one of the most deprived areas in the whole of the UK with the highest unemployment rate and still voting Conservative. What a bunch of thick bastards.

    England
    Sounds like rural QLD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    They can't have one without Westminster allowing it, and doing so would be idiotic, especially on similar grounds to the last one that gamed it all entirely in their favour. Just tell them to fuck off at every turn, and stop offering more concessions and/or money to incentivise the hamster wheel.
    Union of equals 🤤

    I don't think Labour did that bad yesterday in the cold light of day. They had a big ship to reverse but it's not quite stuck in the middle of the Suez.

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    Wait a minute, Liverpool's suspended and under criminal investigation Labour [?] mayor Joe Anderson has been replaced by new Labour mayoral candidate Joanne Anderson?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Union of equals 🤤

    I don't think Labour did that bad yesterday in the cold light of day. They had a big ship to reverse but it's not quite stuck in the middle of the Suez.
    The United Kingdom isn't a 'Union of Equals'. It's one country ('forever after be United into One Kingdom'), which was why national devolution was stupid. Elsewhere, this is going to end up like when rogue states welcome delegations of mental Western leftists.

    'The Scottish Government is delighted to receive the backing of the Ecuadorian...'

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Wait a minute, Liverpool's suspended and under criminal investigation Labour [?] mayor Joe Anderson has been replaced by new Labour mayoral candidate Joanne Anderson?

    I have looked to confirm they are two very different people.

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    Sturgeon being interviewed just now, again reiterating that the decision of Scottish Independence is purely for Holyrood and the Scottish people. And that Westminster has nothing to do with it. That’s not true is it, so why does she keep saying it?

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    Or it is true?


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    I have no idea. They had a constitutional law expert on the BBC just now and I’m still clueless.

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    From what I've read, it's constitutionally untested if Scotland decided to go without Westminster's approval.

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    The Claim of Right deposed James VII as King of Scotland, and the Kingdom of Scotland was then rolled into the Kingdom of Great Britain, so the Acts of Union would supersede it in reserving such matters for Westminster regardless of what the Scottish Constitutional Convention and opposition day debates claim. The Scotland Act is very clear about what the Scottish Parliament cannot do, and they can no more interfere with the United Kingdom or its parliament than they can declare war on somebody or change the line of succession. They could obviously organise a vote and claim whatever they wanted from it, but it would get about as far as starting your own tax haven.

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    Yeah that should do it.

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    GS doing a Michael Stone to keep his best bird Lisa Nandy in.

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    The London result was a lot closer than I thought it would be. Peter Gammons (UKIP) managing to come 13th was possibly the most impressive achievement of the night.

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    Durham's in. NOC but Labour still have the most seats. Tories are the biggest winners but not enough to overhaul the Independents in 2nd. The local Green guy got in for their only seat by a mere 15 votes. Labour second, Green (the bloke's wife) third.

    I only found his name on the ballot, to be fair. They would've smashed it if they weren't splitting the vote. Labour got the Police Commissioner spot which was inevitable.
    Last edited by Shindig; 09-05-2021 at 09:27 AM.

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    fucking love this guy

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    He won handily, too.

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    This voter fraud thing is so funny. Like if this is an important issue and you’ve been in power for 4 governments, doesn’t that imply you’re the one doing the fraud?

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    They've probably worked out that x% of it is done by Asians who don't vote for them.

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    It's over.

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    Not one person is going to watch that other than to lol at him.

    It'll birth plenty of memes though.

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    It should be in the style of People Like Us preferably with Langham on board if he's not still inside.

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    The Thin Of It.

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    It's going to be like Brendan and the envelopes except it's Corbyn's name not Henderson.

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    John Bercow coming out as Labour is equal parts entirely expected, lol and probably damaging to 'the Labour brand'.

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    If George Galloway wins tonight.

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    If Galloway wins there needs to be ethnic cleansing in wherever that shithole is.

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    Why didn't her sister just decide not to be killed?

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    This national insurance rise is a joke.

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    And his approval rating is still better than Starmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    This national insurance rise is a joke.
    What's your rationale?

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    Gavin Williamson saying how he met Marcus Rashford only for his team to later reveal that he spoke to a rugby player called Mario Itoje...

    Eton, they're not sending their best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    What's your rationale?
    The country is run for pensioners and property owners, which, yes, are the Conservatives' main vote; but when Theresa May came up with a vastly superior system cunts called it a 'Dementia Tax' (which at least stopped her winning).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The country is run for pensioners and property owners, which, yes, are the Conservatives' main vote; but when Theresa May came up with a vastly superior system cunts called it a 'Dementia Tax' (which at least stopped her winning).
    Of course, but what would you do with all these people who need the care (which will be you and I one day)/how else would you fund it?

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    You basically can't fund anything in the circle of public opinion these days without it being charged non-specifically to 'the rich' or in Starmer-speak, 'those with the broadest shoulders'.

    I saw the Spectator agitating for a land tax or something the other day, so we truly have moved through the looking glass.

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    I mean, on face value, not knowing much about the issue/how underfunded it is now, it seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to be doing. Do people (Boydy as one example?) hate it because they just hate anything the Tories do?

    As an aside, we need our economy going again big time and an end to any and all residual nonsense still going from when COVID was a genuine problem.

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    Get fucking rid of National Insurance by amalgamating it with IT, bring CGT in line with IT, introduce the wealth tax and let's all fucking have an orgy ffs.

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    They should have just created a new "Covid Tax" or some shit and applied it to any and all income streams at 0.1% or something like that. There's probably many reasons why that won't work but they can all fuck off.

    Either way, using NI was not the answer.

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    When those (I have refrained from saying 'we') who worked through the pandemic, and didn't get furloughed, end up getting charged through the nose for everything in recovery - this is a good example - there will be some kind of culture war vs the work from home slob layabouts who are getting into the 'cyclist' mentality now when it comes to self-righteousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post

    Either way, using NI was not the answer.
    Why not? It's just one tax mechanism. Why does it matter that they picked that one?

    Unless you're going to say the wealthy (and I mean actual wealthy, not the 5%, which is a con trick the devil would have been proud of) should be paying it/paying more? To which my answer would be, "yes, that should apply to many things".

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    Starmer made a good point about care workers getting a tax hike but not a pay rise.

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    Isn’t the plan to give it a separate tax from 2023? Not that it makes much difference.

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