All the twitter replies are pretty amazing at the moment. One set of people screaming in indignation that there isn't a full unlock tomorrow, and another set of people in floods of tears desperately upset that there's a plan to unlock at all. Both yelling at the moon, completely unaware of the existence of the other.
I see they seem to have ditched the 1,000 cases thing (or at least there's no mention of it) which must mean they've seen good news on the vaccine effect on transmission.
We are going to have a summer!
Not if you stay in Scotland.
Is that because Tragic Custard is going to gub me?
In the queue for the Fifie.
No, but there's a real risk of rape on Foe's trampoline.Originally Posted by Kikó
http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-v...shows-12225532
Really promising news this.
It is. And once all of the risk categories are covered the deaths should be pretty much zero and hospitalisations very low.
It will be interesting to see how they manage to keep any form of restrictions in place when no cunt is dying.
Awesome. A September holiday might be ON.
I'd even say the bar doesn't need to be that low. People generally accept that some of the population will die of illness and disease every year, it's just figuring out what is the acceptable level of death.
Is my (rebooked) Ibiza holiday in May unrealistic?
I made the mistake of putting the news on then. Just in time to hear some whiney cunt fretting about how last time we did this the cases sky rocketed.
No! They didn't! They barely moved for 2 months and we didn't have a fucking vaccine!
No chance that's happening. Maybe a UK holiday in May, if you're lucky.
It's painful, isn't it. They way most people have understood this since it started (including some experts and people paid to cover it) has been absolutely shocking.
Ffs.And my unnamed loved one refusing the vaccine may also put a spanner in the works. Vaccine passports and all that.
My main societal takeaway from this is that people no longer read anything (anything - they just don't like text at all) and don't have the attention span to listen to anyone for more than 10 seconds either, which is how misinformation and idiocy ends up spreading.
We need more information receivers and fewer senders.
I'm loving the 'I'm getting the vaccine' Facebook profile photo frames.
One of my Aunties has had the "I stand with London" one since whenever the London Bridge attack happened. That wouldn't be so odd if a) she didn't live in London and b) she hadn't last updated her profile picture 6 weeks ago.
Also, can we just give teachers the jab so they'll stop whinging about having to work?
My wee brother's bird who is a primary teacher has to take a test twice a week now.
The media - particularly the BBC - is to blame for this. Look at the current headline on BBC news website.
"How risky are the routes out of lockdown?"
A concern I have is that the first group of people to be reintegrated into society will be the school kids, all of which will not be vaccinated.
This will no doubt cause cases to go up and then people will claim we need to lockdown again. Surely, when/if this happens, we should be focusing on the hospitalisation/death rates.
Failing that, jab the kids.
Government have said this morning they're not looking at R anymore, which is encouraging on that score. Cases won't matter if deaths/hospitalisations are sunk. Plus vaccination will have a large effect on transmission.
And there are no vaccines approved for children (as far as I know).
Zero covid lot are properly on the ropes after the Scottish vaccine study.
It's a guarantee, but as said, as long as it doesn't impact the hospitalisation rate then it's pretty irrelevant.
My main concern is all the fucking isolating. My daughter still goes to school because my wife is a key worker and she's had to self isolate 3 times since Christmas. There's only 8 of her class in ffs.
Needless to say there are still some clown car opinions by SAGE-advising scientists being put out in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...sage-committee
Wait. The longer we keep restrictions in place, the faster we will be able to lift restrictions? I know that scientists can't write, but that's a concerning sentence.In the short term, we face a trade-off. The longer the government keeps current restrictions in place, the faster we will drive down case numbers and be able to lift restrictions. There is still much room for improvement in the current lockdown.
Well, yeah, I'm that one in five - but wait, are you saying that instead of easing restrictions we should be locking down harder?According to polling by the Trades Union Congress, one in five employees are going into workplaces unnecessarily when they could be working from home.
OK, let's hear more.The consensus is that schools should be one of the first settings to have restrictions eased, but recent modelling suggests this will need to be done very carefully if the R value is not to be increased.
One way of doing this would be repurposing unused spaces to create “Nightingale” schools where children are able to learn in a safe and socially distant way, reducing crowding in existing classrooms, and calling on former teachers who have left the profession to help.
Right, you've been saying this for a year. But how?The UK will need the capacity to undertake widespread testing, assimilated into a functioning test, trace and isolate system.
OK, that's 'where' covered. But how?This system should be based in local public health organisations and primary care, and coordinated by the NHS – which has had huge success in organising the vaccination programme.
OK, assuming these people do indeed exist, HOW? Never mind, she clearly doesn't know. Still, at least we all share the same goal of being back to normal after the vaccines have taken effect, right?Doing this will mean diverting resources away from failed commercial contracts and towards local authorities and those with the expertise and trust to deliver a comprehensive system.
Oh.In the longer term, we should establish “green zones” – areas where the virus has been judged to be under control, where there is no danger of infection and thus no need for restrictions. We’ll need a new system for accrediting Covid-safe environments, from workplaces to schools, shops, hospitality and transport, as we do with hygiene ratings for restaurants. This will require robust guidance, support, regulations and inspections to ensure that all public spaces meet agreed safety standards, with publicly displayed certificates and a hotline for reporting breaches.
Ah yes. The inequalities. Of course.Finally, as the UK slowly recovers from Covid-19, one of politicians’ chief priorities should be to address the inequalities that helped the virus to spread.
Jimmy using Henn0rz to prove a point.
This is real alternate reality stuff.
That's reassuring. I hope they stick to that approach. It's quite exciting to see what happens.
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The biggest threat to human civilastion ain't covid. It's Twitter.
Twitter is the greatest creation of all time
Said no one ever.
I'll stop now
"surely your own breath extends over your arms, which means droplets land on your skin/sleeves. Ditto the other person"
My word people actually think like this don't they. No wonder we're fucked. Nation of Puritans.
Last year during the cricket season one of our players (15yo) had to go into self-isolation for two weeks because, upon video review of one of his matches, it emerged he had high fived someone during a wicket celebration (with wicket-keeping gloves on), rather than elbow-bumping them which was allowed.
I wish I was making that up.
That's never been in the rules, has it? It's news to me if it has. Or is this a special cricket rule that cricket clubs have special powers to enforce?
lol - lol out loud - at all these reports of Europeans turning down/no-showing God's Own Vaccine.
I'm all for trying to see things from other people's perspectives, but what a bunch of insufferable cunts.
It was in the rules then vis a vis what constituted 'close contact'. Or Surrey told me it was, at least.
Ah, so one of them tested positive?
Yes, one of the other players tested positive and a high five with gloves on meant he had to isolate, whereas an elbow bump wouldn't have done.
These people are just broken forever now, aren't they? There's no going back to normal for them. Ever.
It's pure hysteria. It was somewhat understandable when it first rocked up, but how anyone has the energy anymore is beyond me.
I disagree with it because it feels like something an American would come up with.
There’s definitely a Michael Scott vibe to the way Johnson does it.
A substantial amount of the mentals are more anti-Boris Johnson than anything. There is no 'normal' for them.
All limits on social contact lifted by 21st June
The shitty fear-mongering, vaccine denying scientists have lost.
Gyms fucking hell.
Scotland will still be in lockdown come May
Let's get a TTH Meet venue booked for the weekend after.
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