Ireland should fold. We really are rubbish.
The one positive note is that fella Knight looks decent.
Ireland should fold. We really are rubbish.
The one positive note is that fella Knight looks decent.
Find out that the previous record holder was Northern Ireland and they still have to go another year or so without a goal to break it was fun.Originally Posted by Don
Name a more iconic duo than your boys and 0-0s. Fucking hell.
Nearly did fold only for the bail out post Delaney. The pain is here now so they should just take more of it and just start going with the likes of Knight, Molumby, O’Shea, etc from here on and see who makes it.
Gutted by our early red and missed sitter at 0-0 against Wales. A win would’ve given as a much better chance of qualifying for the 2022 World Cup. On the upside we’re in pot three now for the World Cup qualifying which is great.
Maguire has found his calling as an inverted wing back.
The way other results went we would actually have been a second seed for the World Cup draw with a win. That’s some indictment of soccer in Europe at the minute.
I think the teams fine but you need that one player who can do something for the collective to break through. If I was a half decent mid table striker I would be searching for someone to fake me a passport.
Like put Calum Wilson in there or something and he’d have a road named after him within a year.
Bamford was the only one in the picture and he’s holding out for England so you wouldn’t want him about anyway even if they don’t call him up. Someone in midfield to not shit themselves every time the ball comes their general direction is badly needed too.
5 at the back also. You’ve two proper premier league standard wing backs, stop messing about playing them as full backs.
Last edited by Giggles; 18-11-2020 at 09:55 PM.
It takes time for rankings to change drastically. This winless year you mentioned will stick with you for a good while, but won’t instantly drop you to the depths of lower pots.
That said, I’m not entirely sure how the rankings are calculated.
Bamford
Lads, you need ebony blood and you have plenty of it. Also, to be so negative and toothless is a coaching problem more than a lack of talent.
You don’t coach at international level. You have the players for a few days.Bamford
Lads, you need ebony blood and you have plenty of it. Also, to be so negative and toothless is a coaching problem more than a lack of talent.
England midfielder Declan Rice on Sky Sports: "We've been best mates since we were eight years old, we've seen each other grow. When we knew we were starting tonight together it was special and to both score, our families will be bursting with pride.
"I thought I timed my run right for the goal but you never know now. When you see it hit the back of the net - I just wish there were fans in. It's special, you can't put it into words. I need to add goals to my game. The WhatsApp is going to be buzzing!"
Mason Mount: "Our families would have been here together definitely. They were here when I made my debut. We are making special memories together. It's great. For me to be on the pitch for his first goal means a lot - it came off his shoulder!
"I let him do the defensive side and linked up with the guys up front. The attack we had tonight was deadly."
Awwww.
I will not accept Mason Mount as an international footballer.
I'm truly baffled as to why everyone has a problem with him (loads of Chelsea fans do too). I think it's just that many are under the impression that a football team should be comprised of all of the most exciting available stars, whereas in fact it should be comprised of some of them combined with talented soldiers like Mount.
Mason Mount is Tom Cleverley with a posher accent.
Tom Cleverest.
Fucking Denmark look like the best draw again
I'd rather see Spain.
Last edited by Giggles; 19-11-2020 at 08:09 AM.
How the actual fuck are England ranked 4th in the world?
He doesn't have a remotely posh accent, and I think people imagining that he does explains my query tbh.
I was wondering how we're even in the 1st pot.
Why not? They're pretty good and (more importantly) win nearly all their games.
Joint favs for next summer btw.
Lol
Makes sense to me. Coming off the back of a world cup semi and with the most exciting group of young players in the world, just played out two pretty good matches against the other most fancied side. Home advantage. I'd say England should be clear of Belgium if anything.
We are clear of the Belgium we just lost 2-0 to? Getting to a World Cup semi is obviously good, but let's not forget that we lost to the first proper team we bumped into. It was a fluke.
Did you watch them stink the place out (twice) against a pallid Denmark side? I can accept top 10, but 4th above Spain, Germany etc is nonsense.
I don't think the 2-0 was a fair reflection of that game, Belgium's goals were a doubly deflected long range shot and a direct free kick.
Beating Colombia, Sweden and taking Croatia to extra time isn't a bad track record to take to the Euros considering the riff raff that will be present.
I think "Spain and Germany" just sounds scary but it's not really. International football is 90% crap. France have stunk the place out in nearly every international they've played this decade.
You won't see Gareth Southgate's mighty back nine shipping six goals in a game, that's for sure.
England will draw the following group, btw:
England
Slovakia
Iceland
Slovenia
Kosovo
(Moldova)
Was the 2-0 loss to Belgium not a fluke though?
Maybe. But saying we're clear of them is ridiculous anyway. We have played them 4 times in the last 2 years and lost 3 of them.
Opposite trajectories though. Belgium's average age in the game the other night must have been touching 30. England were favourites at an empty Wembley last month so fair to assume they would be favourites at a PACKED WEMBLEY for the final too.
England were only favourites because plebs were backing them, I imagine.
Last edited by John Arne; 19-11-2020 at 09:42 AM.
That's not how betting markets work, sadly.
I didn't say it was posh, just posher. Which it is.
In the same way that a potato is more like a jelly baby than it is like the planet Venus, I suppose.
It's at times like this I'm minded of the list of nations England have beaten in knockout football, which over the last 54 years is topped by Scandanavian teams.
How so? If one team is heavily backed, the odds will be shortened.
Recreational money is a pretty small drop in the ocean these days. Syndicates staking huge sums on the asian market are what form the price and you can expect it to be bang on at kick off. If Baz and Mahow manage to back England to the point where they're artificially short, you can be sure Tony Bloom will be there to hoover up the value on Belgium.
They’re not even making it past the group stage next summer m8
This is going to be a glorious page to quote when England shit it up again.
Keep going James.
Southgate stays. So Tariq and Grealish continue to be overlooked. So no chance for England.
No team with Pickford in net will ever win anything.
I'm a twit
The squads will be decimated come June. The winner will be the nation with the greatest depth.
Not saying England are likely to win it, that would be ridiculous, they're 5/1. I just find this fetishization of the "Lol England are terrible and we'll never win anything" quite odd. It's an inferiority complex rarely seen outside of Scotland.
It's realism. Look at out track record. We frequently get knocked out by teams we should beat and completely shit the bed when we bump into a team on our supposed level.
Anyone can win an international tournament. The best thing you can do to improve your chances is have a really good group of players, and England have that. The fact that they drew with Costa Rica seven years ago has no effect on the likelihood of an entirely different set of players winning a few games next summer.
We have crap defenders and a clueless manager. In big games, like that jammy semi-final we still should have won, that matters.
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