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    I've never wanted to be more wrong about something than how long a vaccine would take.

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    How are russia doing? Aren't they basically already vaccinating people?

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    If they say they are we can definitely take their word for it.

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    The much vaunted Sputnik V vaccine (kudos for the name) is apparently a load of shite, so no.

    There's a French vaccine running to a similar timeline as ours.

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    Having left Team 'New Labour', Team 'Genuinely open the clubs' has announced it's formation as of today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I've never wanted to be more wrong about something than how long a vaccine would take.
    My latest ITK is that NHS workers and other front-of-the-queue types will start being vaccinated before Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I've never wanted to be more wrong about something than how long a vaccine would take.
    To put in perspective the amount of money they've put into a vaccine is equivalent to slightly under what they've put into an HIV vaccine total over the last 30 years. Science is very quick when it's paid to do so.

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    I hate 'clubbing', but I might go once I'm an invincible vaccine-receiver just so I can send Taz a picture.

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    Fam, I didn't care much for ITKs in regards to hyped up wastemen like Sancho but you're playing with people's emotions here so please stop until you've had a needle jabbed in your arm [or jap's eye].

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    If we're doing 'front of the queue' properly, it should begin on the last 10 strokes before midnight on 31 December with Dr Boris Johnson with a giant syringe administering the first shots live on TV (in turn) to the waiting arms of Sunak, Hancock, the Queen, Prince Philip, three randomly selected Eton schoolboys, Hancock again (just to be safe), Marcus Rashford, and finally himself.

    Cummings has been vaccinated since 2013, obviously.

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    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...he-flu-extinct

    2 weeks old but a good read. Wasn't aware of how it was wiping out the flu in the southern hemisphere #otc

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    367. Tally Tuesdays never disappoint

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    Wales has now moved to customers being able to ask for non-essential items in exceptional circumstances, which, in throwing the burden of disappointing people onto supermarket staff, strikes me as the only way they could possibly have made it worse.

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    221 in Italy, 523 in France. We're back, baby

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    I'm not locking down here over Christmas. What are the fines now?

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    It'll be before Christmas at this rate anyway.

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    Conservative media are still talking up Sweden down here. They are in some autistic loop about it.

    Last edited by Queenslander; 28-10-2020 at 10:11 AM.

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    876, those chumps want to have 25,000 a day like proper countries.

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    Australia would be so fucked at 25,000 a day.

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    Don't get how they are twice the size of Scotland, have done nothing really, yet we've done loads of shit and are miles worse.

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    Sweden's move to leave it to people to social distance and keep control of the virus is the model now adopted by much of the rest of Europe but I heard they were proposing to go under stricter measures as this second wave hit them. Not sure if they've done anything on that or not yet. Their awareness that they shouldn't just go to DEFCON 1 and that peoole would grow tired of the measures was the sort of thinking they deserve credit for.

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    Lots of people dieing is a bit shit.

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    Sweden is bigger than Britain and has the same population as London. We might as well try to adopt Papua New Guineas approach.

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    I didn't mean Britain I meant Scotland that is pretty similar in terms of population spread no?

    At least they've moved from Muslim rape capital of the world to forward thinking Wonderland.

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    They don't appear to have a load of conspiracy theory numpties going out of their way to avoid social distancing/masks/not licking door handles, so I reckon the comparisons remain ill fitting.

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    I’d say about 5% of Swedes wear masks on public transport

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    What you saying pinhead.

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    Show me where I mentioned public transport.

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    Well if it's 5% on public transport it's hardly going to be 100% everywhere else is it. Game, set, match.

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    Didn't say that either. What I'm trying to get across, is that by asking people to take their own precautions they are expecting people to actually do that. You are not doing that, so how would it work? What you actually want is just to go back to normal because you live in a conspiracy bubble that doesn't actually believe Covid exists / is killing people.
    Last edited by Spikey M; 28-10-2020 at 11:38 AM.

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    Rumours team #opentheclubs are about to offer a contract to Magic Johnson in what would be a sensational return for the mercurial attacker.

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    https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

    It sounds like it's going great over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Didn't say that either. What I'm trying to get across, is that by asking people to take their own precautions they are expecting people to actually do that. You are not doing that, so how would it work? What you actually want is just to go back to normal because you live in a conspiracy bubble that doesn't actually believe Covid exists / is killing people.
    Who's not doing that like? I follow the rules like most other people, does that mean I have to 100% agree with them?

    I want things to go back to normal because I'm a human being, anyone that doesn't want this probably needs to talk to someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

    It sounds like it's going great over there.
    As good as it is over in Scotland, in fact their total cases and deaths is almost exactly double, and they've got double the population.

    So please explain to me how, despite our extreme restrictions and their non-restrictions, this is the case?

    I'll wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Who's not doing that like? I follow the rules like most other people, does that mean I have to 100% agree with them?

    I want things to go back to normal because I'm a human being, anyone that doesn't want this probably needs to talk to someone.
    You have posted regularly in here about refusing to follow the rules and not believing in the Covid deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    As good as it is over in Scotland, in fact their total cases and deaths is almost exactly double, and they've got double the population.

    So please explain to me how, despite our extreme restrictions and their non-restrictions, this is the case?

    I'll wait.
    Because 90% of them came during the first wave, then we locked down and the deaths fucked off. What do you think would have happened if we hadn't locked down? Would the deaths have stopped of their own accord?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    You have posted regularly in here about refusing to follow the rules and not believing in the Covid deaths.
    I follow the rules that I need to follow but other than that I just live my life and see who I want to see, sensibly.

    Lol so questioning the authenticity of 'facts' from the proven clueless authorities and science community is not believing it's real? Jesus is it that black and white for you.

    This isn't a symptom...no it is. Actually it's a more prominent symptom than the other ones we told you were.
    Rates...rates...types of graphs, in the last X days, ever, per 100,000, per population, per X Y Z
    Deaths...as above
    Recovered? Doesn't matter
    Control the virus? Stop the virus? Eliminate the virus?
    5 tiers? Bubbles? Mental health?
    More cases than ever despite all the restrictions and mask wearing?
    Political agendas?

    Sorry for being sceptical...! It's obviously a real thing but we've been lied to and lied to and fearmongered in to oblivion. It's nothing less than we deserve especially when you look at Indyref 2, Brexit etc. We've ended up exactly where we should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Because 90% of them came during the first wave, then we locked down and the deaths fucked off. What do you think would have happened if we hadn't locked down? Would the deaths have stopped of their own accord?
    Lol are you arguing for my point now? That's what I'm saying. Sweden didn't do that, or anything, and yet they still have exactly the same deaths as Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Lol are you arguing for my point now? That's what I'm saying. Sweden didn't do that, or anything, and yet they still have exactly the same deaths as Scotland.
    Yeah, I'm not. If we hadn't locked down the deaths would have carried on. That much is obvious. If lockdowns don't work then why is Asia living it up after a hard lockdown then careful management?

    I imagine, Sweden unofficially did what we did to an extent. When shit got bad, people shat themselves and stayed at home. The problem is people are no longer sitting themselves, so who's to say the 2nd wave will follow suit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Yeah, I'm not. If we hadn't locked down the deaths would have carried on. That much is obvious. If lockdowns don't work then why is Asia living it up after a hard lockdown then careful management?

    I imagine, Sweden unofficially did what we did to an extent. When shit got bad, people shat themselves and stayed at home. The problem is people are no longer sitting themselves, so who's to say the 2nd wave will follow suit?
    Right, so can you stop avoiding my question and answer it please? Why did Sweden's deaths not 'carry on' as per ours if we hadn't? Is it not as deadly in Sweden?

    Lockdowns work in Asia because that's the way they live over there. It's no problem for them, collectively.

    Can you provide evidence please where despite having no restrictions Sweden's population 'unofficially' locked themselves down exactly the same we did 'officially'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Right, so can you stop avoiding my question and answer it please? Why did Sweden's deaths not 'carry on' as per ours if we hadn't? Is it not as deadly in Sweden?

    Lockdowns work in Asia because that's the way they live over there. It's no problem for them, collectively.

    Can you provide evidence please where despite having no restrictions Sweden's population 'unofficially' locked themselves down exactly the same we did 'officially'?
    I really can't be arsed. Have the win bigman.

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    Taz can your team afford to not have this type of firepower in your ranks?

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    The thing is with Sweden, it's already the most introverted, lonely country in Europe. Everybody lives alone and the status quo is to see mates once a week. Lockdown wouldn't have changed all that much over here.

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    Muggers with the heel turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    The thing is with Sweden, it's already the most introverted, lonely country in Europe. Everybody lives alone and the status quo is to see mates once a week. Lockdown wouldn't have changed all that much over here.
    It's things like work, socialising, etc rather than having mates round to your house. Surely the household transmissions would be non-existent if we hadn't locked down? I never really had people round at all, or go to other people's houses it was all work, out and about, socialising, social events, pubs etc.

    EDIT: Scotland is like this too; a dark, dreary, poor, lonely place where a lot of people live alone or in family groups that don't fluctuate much.

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    I mean, most office work has been remote since March and I also meant that in comparison to most countries, Swedes don't socialize at all. Pubs have been open this whole time, true, but the pub culture is very different from the UK.

    The living alone thing is also a big part of it. Over half of Swedish households are single-person households: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/pr...tRedirect=true

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    That will be it. A massive percentage of the transmission here (and presumably everywhere) is in large/extended households and families. You can see it just in my workplace at the moment whereby those with kids/families are having huge Covid problems of one sort or another constantly (school bubbles isolating, contacts testing positive etc) whereas I really think I'm unlikely to contract the virus, even from coming into the office as I am.
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    Another planning reform argument there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Rates...rates...types of graphs, in the last X days, ever, per 100,000, per population, per X Y Z
    Deaths...as above
    Recovered? Doesn't matter
    Control the virus? Stop the virus? Eliminate the virus?
    5 tiers? Bubbles? Mental health?
    More cases than ever despite all the restrictions and mask wearing?
    Political agendas?
    "We didn't start the virus..."

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