First time I saw it used was at my last place but apparently it's pretty common in Banking. Usually used when they put contractors into a forced absence (end of year cost saving).
First time I saw it used was at my last place but apparently it's pretty common in Banking. Usually used when they put contractors into a forced absence (end of year cost saving).
It's common in prison.
Usually to let prisoners leave to attend a funeral.
/ˈfərlō/
Oil price is looking a bit ropey
Apparently it's an American term.
So stop using it!
I've got a call today with my prospective employer to discuss my onboarding and other things like furlough, holidays, car, laptop, etc, before submission of my notice tomorrow.
Trust me to be put on furlough as the same day as being put on gardening leave, FFS.
Glorious phone call earlier. Notice being handed in tomorrow.
This appears to have been approved, despite telling them I'd rather not have it if it meant suiting up and shaking Mr McMahon's hand, so I've obviously double-swerved the lot of them. #governmentexpertOriginally Posted by Lewis
Your speech is already written, right?
This is hardly the time for the government to be shedding its top experts.
What sort of reward are we talking here? Significant enough that you’re surprised it was approved?
Energy companies culling contractors all over the shop. Being staff
Social distancing at work now seems to extend to the rather sensible notion you should move desks. For us that means dragging all our desktop units with us.We used to be able to work everywhere in the office. Now we're tied to machinery.
It was only a few hundred quid (after tax/student loan increase), which was why I felt able to act the big man over it. I would probably have wound it in if it was worthwhile.
Yeah that’s not bad man, congrats. Buy a house in hull with that.
Post-LOCKDOWN TTH Meet fund.
Handed in my notice over video call. Embarrassing tbh, MD told me he didn't understand why I was moving, my new company is shit, would never expect any of his guys to end up there etc. Guess that makes me even more confident I've made the right move.
You know shit's serious when the NHS are offering secondments to our staff.
Been told today that I won’t be getting redeployed. I’ve plenty of work to do until the second week of April and then I’m full embracing the piss-take territory a lot of my colleagues have been flouncing in for these past few weeks.
I'm a twit
How was working in the office Jim?
Or did you manage to convince you knob of an MD otherwise?
No, I'm still there, now every day again. So many people have been furloughed that it feels a bit safer now, it's four people in a 20 man office setup. Would still rather be at home but if this is what it takes to have an income then so be it.
'Born survivor', as one of my mates rather presumptuously put it.
With the India lockdown a chunk of our skeleton crew are being drafted in to sub for the offshore guys on another contract. I'm sure that's just what you need when claims are at a high.
One of our headteachers (yeah we have two, don't ask) has announced he's off for pastures new today. I guess there is no ideal time to announce this but in a time of massive uncertainty in schools, not knowing what our leadership model looks like is another straw removed from the game of life that is Kerplunk.
My work is now saying my 'OFFICIAL CONTRACT' I signed when I joined 6 years ago says I only need to give 1 weeks' notice, not 1 month like the HR online dashboard (which was an admin error). It was changed to 1 month in 2015 and they didn't issue me a re-vised contract.
Now they say my end date is 8th of April, and after that I can't use the car and I won't be paid (even though my wage is being paid by HMRC). I asked if they couldn't just say I handed in my notice on the 23rd so I still get furlough and they refused.
WOW.
Surely a week is the minimum notice period, not the maximum? When I left my last job I handed it in earlier than I needed to just so it was absolutely clear that I was definitely fucking off and when it was happening.
It just says 'If you wish to terminate your employment you must give 1 weeks' notice in writing'.
Also my restrictive covenant says:
- You shall not, after termination of your employment, use the name of the company or any group company in any advertising or promotional material
- You shall not, for a period of 3 months after the date of termination of your employment, howsoever occasioned, including breach by the company, either directly or indirectly, in relation to any like or similar business to that carried out by the company:
- Within a 10 mile radius of your normal place of work be employed or engaged in the service of any employer or person or persons concerned with any like or similar business to that carried out by the company, or
- You will not set up, whether alone or in partnership or as a director of a limited company any like or similar business within a radius of 10 mile of any company locations at which you have been employed within the last 12 months without the written consent of the company, or
- Canvass or solicit, deal with or entice away from the company any customer or supplier of the company or any group company with whom you have had contact or dealings within the 12 month period prior to the termination of your employment, or
- Approach any employee of the company or any group company with whom you have had contact or dealings within the 12 months period prior to termination of your employment, with a view to enticing them away or employing them
Does the bit that says 3 months not invalidate the bits that say 12 months?
In fairness, you’re leaving. I wouldn’t expect anything from any company you’re leaving.
I'm not, the government is paying my wage. This is pure 100% sour grapes.
So they're fucking you over and you'll have no pay for three weeks of April?
To use the car and all or to even keep you on the books longer than they want to. Why would they bother doing anything when you’re off?
They're obviously going to bin you off ASAP.
This is why you should never be loyal to an employer - they will happily piss on your shoes and tell you it's raining when it suits them
Yes, even though they aren't even paying my wages for that period.
@Shindig can you sort out some sweet Universal Credit for my man?
Nope. I don't work UC.
What can you hook him up with?
Baz's affiliate links.
I don't know what you expected Magic. Obviously the discrepancy between a month and a week is annoying, but your employers have always sounded like cunts. Based on your MD's reaction, they're quite obviously not going to help you out, even if it's no skin off their nose.
If they changed the contract in 2015 why is that not valid?
The only real option here is to fuck shit up as much as possible before you leave. Put some key customers noses out of joint, cancel some sales, don't renew any existing deals coming to an end.
DAMAGE MAXIMISATION.
Because he wasn't issued with an updated contract, from the sounds of it.
Yep. And the ONE MONTH 'mistake' in my HR portal isn't valid. So is the entire HR portal invalid then? Why didn't they issue me with a new contract? I've had three different jobs...
Yes damage maximisation. I'm touting our downstream dealers now to become re-sellers at my new place. And I'm letting my key accounts know I'm leaving.
Mad Men tactics.
If they admit a contract existed at a certain date, does it matter whether or not you were issued with it? Sounds like clear bad faith to me, but I guess they think you won't sue them for three weeks' pay.
LOL our MD is contacting my downstream channel and trying to find out what we were working on, then telling them at the end I'm leaving and I'll be on gardening leave from Monday...I know this because they are telling me. What a foolish man.
It's one of those that you could easily argue, but it's a bit of a grey area I'd say. Plus, we don't know the circumstances - how did the contract exist? Was it for all other people at his level? Did a manager mention the new notice period verbally?
Either way, the fact that he wasn't issued with a new contract shows what a shambles they are as a company.
Another week off. They're wanting to ramp up bringing people back though now that we're getting people poached for the other side of the building.
Our CEO suggested some sort of online social distslancing get-together the other day. He's booked it for this evening (afternoon their time as him and three others are US-based). I wasn't particularly keen on the idea but then he said it would have a 'gameshow format' and I thought maybe a quiz and that'd be fine as I love a good quiz. He's sent through some scorecard thing with 'best drink', 'best drink presentation' and 'best joke' so now I'm expecting some lame 'ice-breaker' style bullshit.
Fuck's sake.
Companies should just leave people alone once they’re doing their work.
Before we started working from home our manager floated the idea of 'lunch time group skype calls'. We lol'd at the time, but apparently not enough for her to get that it was a big no.
She tried to get it going twice at first. Nobody answered, so we received a shirty email later in the day about keeping morale up within the team and helping to prevent loneliness. Then 2 people replied asking why that couldn't be done during working hours and she's dropped it all together now. Loneliness.
We had some sitcom-esque antics yesterday. Our owner, having furloughed about 50% of the workforce in 24 hours, then sent out an email out to the surviving staff that he and the two other directors with stakes in the company would be taking 20% salary cuts (not likely to get the bailiffs sniffing, but whatever).
Hours later, the chief exec of the Houston branch replies to all on that email and pompously declares 'I, too, will be...'. 15 more minutes elapse, and another email comes in. This time it's the US sales director also volunteering for a 20% pay cut. By this time our MD has come into the now near-empty office shrieking a pained cry asking what is going on and why all these people are volunteering pay cuts all of a sudden. Literally as he's speaking, another email pops in - the director in Miami has taken a pay cut, too, leaving our humble MD as the last one not to have done so.
A couple of people start lolling at him, and he stomps off back to his office with the parting shot 'I'm not rich, you know. I've got a family to feed'. As of now he still hasn't joined them. I hope he doesn't, to be fair, the yanks are all idiots for doing it.
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