What did she say?Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
What did she say?
The best thing about Newsnight last night was when Maitliss 'went after' the fact the NHS manager guy (I think) said they were trying to source the chemicals they needed from vets as they often have stocks and she was right on him like "aha, you're using products designed for animals!" scoop of the century mode and he just said, well, yeah, they're the same chemicals and they're not going anywhere near people, or animals, you fucking idiot.
I think he was more referring to her physique rather than her rhetoric.
This chap on the breefing is a cheery soul.
I get the slogan, but do we really need to end every single sentence with it?
The slogan marketing guff on their podiums is appalling. Did they pay someone to design that?
They have the GET BREXIT DONE election winning people doing their comms, so probably. This shit works.
Tbf. She’s been brilliant during Covid.
@mazuurk
How do you feel about Swedens approach to this?
My wife’s uncle has tested positive. He’s in his 80s and has terminal lung cancer (and still smokes) so I’ll be amazed if he’s still here by Easter. Wife’s aunt is dreadfully unhealthy (as in she is eating herself blind) so would imagine she won’t be far behind.
Separately, wife took our son for his jabs and blood tests at Bath RUH and said it was dead. Which I guess is a good thing.
I hope it'll be manageable in most places and only get nasty/overwhelming in the obvious hotspots.
A, yes, but B is not necessary, you simply rely on herd immunity amongst the remainder of the population to sort it.
It will be very difficult almost everywhere but most places probably won’t be overwhelmed in the way that London and Birmingham/the Black Country will.
We’re expecting to peak over the Easter weekend for new admissions. It will be hard for a while after that as length of stay with this is quite long.
I'm a twit
There's the peak and then there's whatever plateau follows.
Should be a plateau of a couple of weeks at most before dropping roughly as rapidly as it grew.
It's an interesting experiment for sure.
A major thing that has been overlooked though is the removal of the standard qualifying day for sick leave, which is a weird remnant from our crisis in the 90s. That has a significant signalling effect in keeping people at home as much as possible.
I was in the Netherlands until Friday, and I can't say Rotterdam/Amsterdam and Stockholm feel massively different in terms of activity among the population.
I just googled her and her other role appears to be 'Minister of Transport and Communications'. How are those two things the same job?
Taz, I'm closer to your side than Yevrah's but this is just dumb. It's not chicken pox, you can get it more than once.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minist...ions_(Finland)
That was her previous position.
She’s since moved up to pm as our old pm was a bit useless and had to resign.
Yes that's what I said. How is being Minister for Transport and Communications the same job. People are so desperate to correct you on this website that two different people don't stop to think that maybe they're the ones that are wrong.
I still don't get what you're on about. Are you trying to say that she wasn't qualified before taking on the current position?
Affirmatory.
I'm torn. I think theres reason in not shutting the economy down too much, it's damaging as it is. And a lot of the reasoning is based on having a sustainable distancing strategy for the rest of the year it seems to prevent a massive backlash when they let people outside and in like september as I understand. Herd immunity is the long term game here they are just trying to drag it out. It's all going to depend on how much the contagion had already spread when cases started popping up, which i think is impossible to tell.
At the same time, our death toll is growing like everywhere else.
At least here there seems to be no political agendas almost. All the parties are united and all say listen to the experts so thats what we are doing (the experts here are saying lockdown is as much a political show of strenght as a means of imposing social distancing. But I think we are at the cusp if the big increase now so they may change it soon.
I mean how are you going to know if someone is immune then? Someone has to bring the quarantined food, no?
Transport: Trains, Cars, Roads, Buses.
Communications: Phone lines, Internet, Privacy law.
These are not the same things.
Didn't figure those two were your sticking point. They're the same thing in that they're both massive infrastructure pieces that require large capital investments and deal with private companies with similar dynamics (rarely SMEs etc.). Can't see why that can't fall under the same ministry/department.
Eh? Beside some distrusted account here or there I thought the understanding was you can't get infected again as with other similar viruses?
That's the case now anyway. The risk to the quarantined at risk doesn't need to increase just through letting the others go about their business as usual. Of course this is theoretical and based on people not being idiots but as I said, they would then carry the blame.
Or maybe your wording was a bit unclear as me and Bernanke both understood the same way mr. victim complex.
It's obviously early days so we don't know for sure yet, but it's not thought you can get it more than once (or it's very rare at least). There's been an animal study where they failed to reinfect previously infected monkeys and reports of reinfection in humans are very rare/non-existent.
Whether that means long-term immunity isn't clear. You'd have to talk to a virologist about the ins and outs of a virus mutating and what that'd mean for immunity.
Also, @mazuurk and @Bernanke. Any decent English articles to read more covid and Sweden.
Even the reports you get on humans getting reinfected come with the "we don't know if the test was faulty" caveat.
There was a pretty shit article in The Guardian a couple of days ago that felt like it was completely detached from any understanding of Swedish society, but this one is much better:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/24...-for-business/
It's still a gamble and we'll see what happens, but any large scale experiment needs a control group so I guess we're volunteering for that...
Last edited by Bernanke; 01-04-2020 at 06:30 PM.
Thanks, will have a look.
This is a SERIOUS QUESTION, but do you have any immunity-related issues from your sepsis ordeal that might complicate this?
Sepsis from his rotting bumhole, lads. You remember.
HELLO LR.
At least you've sucked the cum out of a hairy granny's arse, I'd like to see how many of are brave boys have done that? And how many of these so called "Florence Nightingales" have walked from Doncaster to Preston or whatever for a laugh? Checkmate dickheads.
The fuck has happened to this thread man..
Nope, only persisting issue is a few rotational muscles in my hip that were removed (got to keep 2.5/5), so not being able to go the gym regularly quickly becomes annoying since my left leg tends to feel a bit wobbly because of it. It's mostly just sensation though, had a PT look at my walking pattern years back and it was fine.
Bumhole was always fine though, thanks for asking. They just removed about a golfball worth of tissue around my tailbone. Still in the crack mind, but pretty high up.
The Iranians seem to have done a remarkable job "flattening the curve" as they say. Sort of reminds me of a school science experiment where you'd do the write-up backwards and never bother with the equipment bar setting a few things on fire with a bunsen burner.
Did we not have any April fools along the lines of 'Coronavirus lockdown lifted with immediate effect' set on a BBC Breaking News background?
Would probably get done for attempted murder in the current climate.
Weren't those he actions of Hammerstein?
You got the wrong weirdo that demanded they were banned for their own good.
It's like a darts quarter-final.
Ooooone hundred and FAWTY.
Cabin Fever.
Smiffy sucked the cum out of an old ladies arse?
I was never a fan either but Iran's trying to fight COVID and being shit on for juicing their numbers while being banned from buying the equipment etc. to stop them needing to is the best argument I've seen against sanctions. What's the plan? Hoping half the government dies of it and them seeing the errors of their ways?
Too far even for a man of my calibre.
If the grapevine is correct, I believe we've put aside the war on Covid so that we can focus on territorial gains. DEATH TO AMERICA.
Ya ya, we know.
6 week year old died in America after testing positive
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