Originally Posted by Luca
That's why the world needs management consultants.
I know nothing about the world of management consulting, I just wanted to post this.
That's why the world needs management consultants.
I know nothing about the world of management consulting, I just wanted to post this.
My tesco order came the other day. Meat, pasta, fags, beer, cheese, etc. Everything except my Walkers Lime Pickle crisps
Consultants in every field (except medical specialists) will be the first to go hopefully. Pointless jobs. How they were created I’ll never know.
We had 75 deaths yesterday and we've had another 75 today. It's good news. For now.
Afraid not. The 41 yesterday were from 9am until 5pm on the 24th. The 113 today are for the 24 hour period afterwards. So it is a decent jump today. But not an Italy jump.
This:
https://twitter.com/thejeremyvine/st...281972225?s=21
Is interesting. A statistician from Imperial has our maximum daily death total has being 260 on 5th April. There’s an upper sensitivity of 330 but even tha feels a bit optimistic if we’re at 115 in 24 hours now. 5,700 total deaths would be a fucking result. In fact I’d snap your hand off for the upper sensitivity of 7,100 of offered now.
If USA peaks as soon as 8 April my name is Boris Yeltsin.
Ah, I see.
Those numbers look very optimistic. But what's going on in Spain?
Well, quite. Mind you, the Italian/Spanish numbers look believable.
In actual fact, business has been quite strong; now is the time to make difficult decisions and - as phonics alluded to, and Jimmy provides anecdotal evidence of - a vast majority of organizations are really bad at it.
Last edited by Luca; 26-03-2020 at 07:17 PM.
I think Spain is already outdoing Italy for cases on a day to day basis now. Or at least very close to it.
20% of all Spanish deaths to date have been in Madrid care homes alone.
"Following the growth trajectory of China" is the flaw in that.
I didn't see it initially, but when the title of a table you're looking at is 87 words long I think I can be forgiven.
I dunno. I think Chinese growth was pretty explosive too, even if the raw numbers were shit. He can only work with what he’s got, which is I guess why he updates it every day.
Before the video loaded, I assumed you were going to link to this peach:
I don't even understand how they've followed the trajectory of China. My head hurts.
But ignore me. I've been working for 30 of the last 40 hours and I'm exhausted.
Nope.That's why the world needs management consultants.
They’ll presumably have mapped real numbers to Chinese growth levels, which there is data for. I can believe that the Chinese lied about actual numbers but their reported exponential growth in both cases and deaths seems more believable. If you’re going to lie you’d not report as horrible a growth rate as they have.
I ate some of those pizzas today too. I haven't been sick yet but they were not good. Not good at all.
The world doesn't need management consultants, it just needs people to have some basic awareness of what's going on around them and act accordingly.
As are consultants, it’s just that they’re making bad decisions to keep themselves relevant. And cost about four times as much for the pleasure.
You would think the consulting industry would have gone to shit by now if people could just simply 1) have basic awareness of what's going on around them and if 2) consultants just piled on the bad decisions, and yet...
Last edited by Luca; 26-03-2020 at 07:31 PM. Reason: Clarity
Most industry is needed so will survive despite them.
If we end up with 5700 deaths whilst even Holland beats us, let alone comparable countries (forget Germany and their Volkswagen counting), it will be a donning for the ages.
It's mostly just a route to abdicate responsibility for a decision. And they also take fucking ages to do anything thus buying some time.
The way the west is handling this is quite different from China though isn't it? Lockdowns are nowhere near as strict, but at the same time there's a lot more attention to the problem, so a lot more efforts towards testing, analyzing the spread etc etc. So not so sure you can use China's trajectory to get anything valuable.
In a time like this across the world it’s hardly time for talking about donning. Such thinking is everything that’s wrong with your country as it seems to be a fairly blanket thought. Politics > *
I bought some Irish butter the other day. Just for that I'm binning it.
It’s a time for treating yourself.
It's margarine, you fool.
The former happens, but those are the worst kinds of clients to deal with - I try to avoid those looking for a 'rubber stamp' like the plague. That being said, the latter is often a product of the former, in my experience. On the whole, we move a lot faster than our clients, and working collaboratively means we sometimes need inputs that are slow to arrive.
I'm not trying to defend every practice that the industry engages in, by the way. Plenty of morally awful stuff happens, and there's plenty of publicly-available material on that (the NYT have been pretty vocal in this space, and done a great job). But the fact remains that in times like this, we (the industry as a collective) get unsolicited calls from clients who are genuinely concerned and feel like they need the advice. It's not a made-up service.
I'm sure like everything there are good ones, I just fundamentally think that in most cases if you need to pay someone to tell you how to run a business, you shouldn't be running that business.
The problem is that the industry isn't set up for times like this, it's set up to suck blood in normal times. If it was actually a crisis management service or similar then nobody would go on about it.
I say this with vast experience of working with and without them present. Accenture in particular can suck my balls.
Consultants are needed mainly because you usually lack the skillset or the imagination to do it yourself. It's when you hire them to do remedial stuff it all goes a bit wonky.
There are good consultants. There is no good consultancy company.
Internal capacity is also a factor but no-one ever factors in how much time you spend managing them, I've always found it both cheaper and better to just hire someone.
Therein lies part of the value, though, at least for the kind of work I do.
Running a business is hard work, and it often takes teams of people who work 9-5, 5 days a week (at minimum) to keep the lights on. Sometimes that means important things like doing the analysis to make decisions about the future, analyzing amongst acquisition or expansion options, etc. fall to the back of the pile. Sure, you can hire people to do it (and plenty of organizations have their own internal strategy teams) but sometimes that's costly and not always needed 9-5, 5 days a week, 365 days of the year, for many years.
So you outsource it to folks who are specialized in doing that, just like you might outsource security to Securitas.
Consultant vs costly
It's not 8 yet and people are clapping. This country.
Christ they’ve just stopped programmes on RTÉ for a nationwide round of applause
Ah. I thought it was just us being sad cunts. That’s not so bad then.
I can hear fucking neighbours out at it too
Is encouraging everyone to come out of their houses to applaud the NHS (who can't hear them) a good idea during a Pandemic?
You'd think Americans would be well up for this kind of sad behaviour, but it doesn't seem to have taken off there.
Same on BBC1.Christ they’ve just stopped programmes on RTÉ for a nationwide round of applause
It's just make vs. buy. And if the right decision is to buy (such as Luca's reasons) then as long as you complete a correct sourcing process you'll end up with a decent consultant doing a good job.
The trouble most of the time is that an organization decides to 'buy' and then doesn't put in any of the work and hire somebody/organization that is shit.
Everyone in my fucking road was clapping. I clapped mentally, but only for Lee, RL and Dr Nguyen at my practice who is a bit of a geezer.
Some people in my street did it. Well, I say did it. I peered through the blinds and all they were doing was standing there.
They probably thought I was a cunt, but little do they know, I've done more than most.
I heard. It was honestly quite heartwarming.
Had to turn the tv up!
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