An 18 year old (with unspecified underlying health conditions) is among the UK dead today.
An 18 year old (with unspecified underlying health conditions) is among the UK dead today.
There's a couple of African registrars at work who I've been on with most of the last week or so. They've both treated ebola cases so (rightly or wrongly) they are just not remotely scared of treating this (still following guidance and everything).
It's been good for me I think, kept me out my own head.
Are you expecting to be on the front line of this at some stage RL?
Assuming the data are correct, France seem to have halted the exponential part of the equation the last few days:
Thursday: 1861 new cases
Friday: 1617 new cases
Saturday: 1847 new cases
Sunday: 1559 new cases
It's a very small sample of course.
I don't know.
I'm on the front line in paeds a lot of the time, but the kids aren't getting very sick with it (thank fucking Christ). We've had no confirmed cases in paeds so far (although we aren't testing many as very few of the suspected ones have been unwell enough to warrant admission). We will start getting confirmed cases soon though so I'm going to be exposed to it, and frankly it's pretty likely I've already seen a kid with it who just wasn't tested.
What I'm dreading is if adult front line services get over-run and we get pulled off paeds to help. I think we're about as protected as we can get as trainees in paeds because it's such a precious service so we'd probably be about last to be moved, but it could still happen. I fully accept that's a selfish attitude, and if I'm called I'll obviously go, but if I'm not I can't pretend I won't be incredibly relieved.
My boss doesn't take his work home with him. Which is admirable to an extent, but not always practical and at the moment not very helpful. All we've had so far is a message on the notice board saying 'all staff in next week'. I'm hoping that just means Monday and we take it from there. I've a feeling we're going to have a meeting at 8.30 with all 20 or so staff members crammed inside our staff room.
My girlfriend's school on the other hand have been in contact over the weekend a few times. They're having a meeting in the hall to allow for social distancing, and then the staff will be on a rota after tomorrow.
I don't blame anyone for thinking similar RL.
Those numbers on their own don't mean much Adra.
Conversely, America will benefit from the level of social isolation which already exists in the country. On a weekend night when you're all in the Manchester pub infecting each other, we're in front of our TVs watching the NFL or Family Guy. Salt Lake City, where I am now, is the ideal place to isolate because we only ever travel by car anyways.
What will actually hurt America is the complete phobia of government intervention on the parts of about half the country. I think you're going to end up seeing some pretty big differences in numbers between states with Democratic governments and Republican ones. Florida for instance is absolutely fucked, sorry bruh.
I'm curious, though - governmentally speaking, laying aside national stereotypes for a second, what are the practical differences between a Japan or South Korea and a Great Britain? Are they really that different?
Is it just that they have the stomach to actually enforce their actions?
I get that - what I was asking about are the actual differences in government.
It's cultural rather than political. In Japan/Korea EVERYTHING depends on how old you are. There's a different form of address to someone 1 year older than you than to someone 1 year younger than you (everyone is herded into year groups so all birthdays are 1 January).
Not doing as you're told by an elder (whether that be family, a public official or a work boss) is a serious faux pas at the best of times, let alone now. As such they don't even need to instil different political norms for this because the cultural basis is already there.
Here and in all western liberal cultures I'm aware of, it's every man for himself and you can't change that with elderly death statistics.
As much as I never really enjoy our Sunday trip to my in-laws, I was a bit disappointed that #socialdistancing meant we couldn’t go round today and witness this goatse card displayed on the fireplace with pride.
I'm a twit
As non-clinical staff we’ve been asked to volunteer to talk to and feed patients (after training). On non-Covid wards, that is.
I haven’t filled the form in and to be honest I’m extremely reluctant to do anything that I perceive increases my own risk of getting it. I’m not keen really on being in the building at all. Which I appreciate is cowardly given that there are plenty who aren’t going to have any choice in the matter, but there you go.
Idk if I'm a bit in denial in order to cope, but I'm not particularly scared of catching it myself. I've accepted I almost certainly will at some point. I am of an age and health status which means I'm extremely likely to be fine if I do get it and I can't do anything more to avoid it anyway so no point worrying.
Desperately trying to keep people on ventilators alive as the service is overwhelmed and starts to crumble is what I'm afraid of. I'd avoid saying these sorts of things in normal circumstances, but unless you've been there you really don't understand what it's like being a junior doctor in a situation you don't know how to cope with when there's nobody senior to take responsibility from you. It's terrifying.
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Has there been any advice given to patients to prevent them winding up on a ventilator? Like breathing techniques to keep their oxygen levels up, etc?
In all honesty I’d not much fancy being the consultant either. It’s a terrifying thought.
@Yevrah: Yeah, I know I am grasping at straws, but I have to do something to spend my time.
So, I moved to Paris less than 2 weeks ago, I had my wallet stolen (thankfully I have my passport and my father has access to my greek account so was able to wire some money). I have opened a French bank account but I haven't gotten the card yet, so basically I am stranded here with a set amount of cash and I genuinely have no idea when/how I will be able to get the card. I don't even have my online banking credentials yet.
I am working from home (my job could be done from home exclusively anyway), but I haven't met any of my colleagues and I have basically only ever talked to my supervisor, and that's through Skype. I am staying at an Airbnb until April 7th. The plan was to look for a permanent place by that time, but with the current situation that's no longer possible so I'll have to look for another Airbnb.
To top all that off, I speak no French whatsoever, so if something happens to me, things will get weird.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham...cabinet-mutiny
That lockdown is imminent.
Obama had legislation put towards a Pandemic Plan. Trump scrapped it.
Legislation is all well and good but he'd have had no chance in Red territory.
You fuck around in China during a lockdown and this happens:
World's apart.
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That's some To Catch a Predator level response.
Quality.
That'll come in handy when they're invading somewhere
As long as the enemy stops and gets out of their car so they can move the van in the way, rather than just driving through.
Anyone watching this programme on Channel 4 now?
Mackers is closing tomorrow.
40,000 waiting to be tested here and we’ll be set up to test 5,000 a day from tomorrow so there’s going to be a monster rise in confirmed cases over the next fortnight.
People are being such cunts though when you see videos of people on beaches and queueing for food the fuck knows where it’s going.
Fair play to McDonald's. Presumably they could have blagged it as a takeaway and carried on.
As the weekend has wore on and examples of idiocy have become more prevalent, I've questioned more and more whether it's morally right for any business that can't be classed as essential to continue trading.
Looking at the league table. Pakistan has 776 and Poland has 634 cases. In between them both, are Diamond Princess which is a cruise ship with 712 cases. It is being guaranteed in a Japenese port. 8 man have died onboard since early February
I never knew.
For a bag of fucking chips. Any justice and they’d all catch it over anyone else.
I went down to the chemist the other day to pick my prescription up and they're (understandably) operating a "one in, one out" policy in the actual building as it's only very small. But all it did was lead to a queue exactly like the one pictured at that chippy in the car park outside the doctors. Just a load of mostly very old people stood shoulder to shoulder chewing each others ears off.
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Wait McDonalds is still fucking open.
I really want to know if those people in that queue all have four grand's worth of food in their house, got up at 6am this morning to get to Snowdonia and back, before rounding off the day by waiting eight hours for some fish and chips.
Apple/Samsung etc. will have all of the data and it needs to be published so we can work on eradicating idiocy in time for when a more serious pandemic hits.
I presume all these places will still open for delivery even in the dead of the lockdown? I got a Lebanese delivered last night (I'm not leaving the flat right now except to go to the office, lol) and it came quick as a flash. Gorgeous too.
If the only food I can get will be via death-defying state-sanctioned visits to mini-Tesco to fight Agnes and Mohammed for the last pack of Oxo cubes, I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy the pandemic very much.