Film Thread

[Toby]

I loved The Lobster. It's complete nonsense but hilariously so. I thought it was starting to lose its way in the last third but it pulls it back for a very good ending.

[Henry]

Bridge of Spies and Ex Machina are both good, without setting the world on fire.

[Mazuuurk]

About to watch Mad Max. Heard both that it's amazing and that it's crap. Which one is it?

[phonics]

It's average.

[Lewis]

I saw Black Mass last night. It's good, but it felt longer than it was when it started dragging towards the end a bit.

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The main point is lol at some of the reduced sentences his goons got for grassing him up. How desperate can you be to nail the one geezer?

[phonics]

High Fidelity is a Top 5 movie.

[Baz]

You mean Top 7.

[Bernanke]

Pretty good Tarantino-interview from What the Flick.

[Lewis]

On the Old Board I said:

I think the advert looks good. Then again, eight people sitting around exchanging tired TARANTINO DIALOGUE... I think it's going to hinge on how long it is. Two hours (or less) and it might be tight enough to work. If it's pushing three then abandon ship.

167 minutes. What are the odds that some bits are brilliant, some bits are shit, and that it's half an hour too long?

[Boydy]

High Fidelity is a Top 5 movie.

I watched that the other day. I didn't think it was that great.

I watched The End of the Tour last night. It's got Jason Segel as David Foster Wallace and Jesse Eisenberg as David Lipsky who spent time on the road with him on his book tour for Infinite Jest interviewing him. It's seriously good. I really want to read Infinite Jest now.

[phonics]

I watched that the other day. I didn't think it was that great.

Really? It's got great pacing with a well presented internal dialogue that works in contrast to most book to film translations. There's not a bad performance in it. I adore it.

Also I think I like films about Music that aren't about music. Human Traffic being another one that pulls on my nostalgia strings even though I'm not sure it holds up.

[Baz]

DM ( ) once said that Human Traffic was so bad, he'd pay me £10 to travel to his house and take the DVD from his collection.

The NICE ONE BRUVVA! bit gets quoted between me and Mike a fair bit.

[Yevrah]

Affleck looks embarassed to be in it and as for Eisenberg.

[Dquincy]

What a pile of shit that looks.

[Reg]

Thought the same when I saw that. They really could serve up any pile of crap and there'd be people flooding in to see it. I think this run of super hero films has a lot of life in it still.

[Boydy]

Who is Eisenberg meant to be in that?

Also, are people meant to not know that Clark Kent is Superman? All he does is take off his glasses ffs. At least Batman wears a mask.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Who is Eisenberg meant to be in that?

Also, are people meant to not know that Clark Kent is Superman? All he does is take off his glasses ffs. At least Batman wears a mask.

People think it would be so ludicrous for Clark to be the ultimate superhero though, his bumbling nature is his disguise not the glasses.

[Bernanke]

Who is Eisenberg meant to be in that?

Lex. Yes, really.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and Eisenberg is apparently Lex Luthor, after watching the trailer I thought it might be a slight spin on The Riddler.

[Boydy]

People think it would be so ludicrous for Clark to be the ultimate superhero though, his bumbling nature is his disguise not the glasses.

But you can see it's the same fucking person.

[Henry]

That trailer looks great. IIRC the conceit in Man of Steel was that very few have seen Superman's face, and nobody has a picture of it. Not sure if that will stand in the new movie, mind.

[Giggles]

Someone said similar when that photo of Deschanel without a fringe was floating about last week. The fact you wouldn't have a clue who she was makes me buy the Kent glasses thing easier.

[Manc]

I was quite excited for Batman v Superman, but that trailer gets more ridiculous by the second.

[simon]

Who is Eisenberg meant to be in that?

Also, are people meant to not know that Clark Kent is Superman? All he does is take off his glasses ffs. At least Batman wears a mask.

People think it would be so ludicrous for Clark to be the ultimate superhero though, his bumbling nature is his disguise not the glasses.

But you can see it's the same fucking person.

I'm with Boydy on this one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

To carry on, Clark has a completely different posture to Superman and his glasses also change his eye colour from a sparkling blue to a duller blue.

It's hard to comprehend but people see Superman as, effectively, a god amongst men. He is a completely different entity to the clumsy and nerdy Clark Kent (who also wears slightly larger suits so as not to show that he has a well toned body).

It's so farcical to people that Superman could be just a regular guy that they can't look at anyone and think 'Oh shit, he's actually Superman'.

It's a bit like change blindness:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...s-changes.html

[Boydy]

Maybe they should work that shit into the film more and make Clark a proper hunchback because it's pretty fucking obvious.

Also, how do they not notice that that guy who looks exactly like Superman with his glasses off is never around when Superman is doing all his amazing shit too. You never see them in the same room together.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They have appeared in the same room, at least in comics they have:



I'm sure that I read that he also got Martian Manhunter to appear as Superman once too.

[Boydy]

Love that propaganda.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Love that propaganda.

It's fucking glorious.

[Yevrah]

Are we really moaning about Clark Kent and Superman looking almost exactly the same?

Are we all 8 again?

[Lewis]

I bet JFK was straight on the phone to Rome as soon as he found that out.

[Reg]

his glasses also change his eye colour from a sparkling blue to a duller blue.

Ahhhhh, alright then, you should have said sooner.

[Boydy]

Are we really moaning about Clark Kent and Superman looking almost exactly the same?

Are we all 8 again?

Yes. Yes we are.

[Boydy]

I bet JFK was straight on the phone to Rome as soon as he found that out.

yeah

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ahhhhh, alright then, you should have said sooner.

It is a valid point though, it's often remarked (at least in the comics) that Superman's eyes are a dazzling shade of blue that cannot belong to a regular human.

Also, most of the rabble only see Superman from afar.

[Dquincy]

That trailer looks great. IIRC the conceit in Man of Steel was that very few have seen Superman's face, and nobody has a picture of it. Not sure if that will stand in the new movie, mind.

Are you being serious?

[Boydy]

I didn't think that trailer looked that bad, actually, and I generally don't like comic book films.

[Dquincy]

I didn't think that trailer looked that bad, actually, and I generally don't like comic book films.

The premise of the film makes absolutely no sense.

[Lewis]

Wonder Woman ruins the advert. Her just bowling up in the film in that scene would have been a lot better.

[Spoonsky]

I think most superhero movies look stupid but that takes the cake. It looks horrendous.

[Henry]

Are you being serious?

Yes. Did you see it? If so, maybe you can dispute what I've said.

[Manc]

Watched Reservoir Dogs last neet. Classic.

[Toby]

Bridge of Spies is draped head to toe in Stars 'n' Stripes propaganda, and it was probably watered down in places to make it a 12A, but it's pretty good besides that.

Just went back to see what others thought of it and had a good laugh at this:

Bridge of Spies is a masterpiece, and probably the best movie of the year. It hits every note perfectly. Far more balanced than the Martian, for instance. Tom Hanks is phenomenal but Mark Rylance takes the cake, I imagine he's a shoe-in for Best Supporting Actor. Every performance is great, though. Every shot is great. Damn.

[Henry]

I don't think it was propaganda. The justice system, the CIA and the whole McCarthyism thing got a bit of a going over.

[Toby]

There was a lot of juxtaposing the two systems, mostly with the intent of making the communists look cruel and incompetent. I don't doubt that it was accurate to have East Berlin look drab and miserable but the bit that got me most was:

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The deliberate contrast between the two interrogations, where the Soviets were essentially torturing Powers and waking him regularly with bright lights and shouting, but the Americans were lovely and sweet with Abel, bumbling around while he got up at his own pace.

There was also the ending, where they made it look like Abel would be going back to be treated cruelly (or possibly executed).

[Henry]

Well, the "communist" system was more cruel and incompetent, so you can argue that that's just being accurate.

[Toby]

I'm sure in many ways it was accurate, but I definitely don't believe the bit I quoted would have been.

[Henry]

Yeah, not sure on that or what the documented evidence is (or if it can be trusted).

[Spoonsky]

There was a lot of juxtaposing the two systems, mostly with the intent of making the communists look cruel and incompetent. I don't doubt that it was accurate to have East Berlin look drab and miserable but the bit that got me most was:

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The deliberate contrast between the two interrogations, where the Soviets were essentially torturing Powers and waking him regularly with bright lights and shouting, but the Americans were lovely and sweet with Abel, bumbling around while he got up at his own pace.

There was also the ending, where they made it look like Abel would be going back to be treated cruelly (or possibly executed).

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The part at the end just seemed to be part of the story, leaving it more emotionally ambiguous for Tom Hanks, rather than a comment on the communists altogether. If you're looking for communism then surely you should point at the bit at the very end where he's looking out the train window, especially when he sees the kids jumping over a fence (and not getting shot like in Berlin).

I dislike this word but I would call it more patriotic than propagandic. What he says to the ginger spy about the power of the constitution seemed like patriotism in the best sense, celebrating the ideals of the country even when this contradicts the government at the time.

[Henry]

Spielberg

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could have left the fate of Abel ambiguous, and left it with him getting into a car. That would have been better.

But...he's determined to spoonfeed as he usually does.