If said racist person stops shouting racist abuse at people, that would be an improvement 'in the grand scheme of things.'
If said racist person stops shouting racist abuse at people, that would be an improvement 'in the grand scheme of things.'
Players subject to racial abuse should be given a free pass to deal with the abuser in a Cantona-esque fashion.
It has to be self-policing, ideally in the sense of people policing themselves away from racially abusing others (in whatever context) or obviously just not being a racist, but, failing that, in a football context, the policing has to come from the crowd around, and in that context I think 'the protocol' can work. Hopefully when these things happen others in the vicinity take a stand against it. I've never heard racist abuse at a sporting event, but I've seen plenty of lairy twats challenged when their behaviour requires it, so would hope people don't just sit on their hands if the guy in front is giving it the full monkey noise big one.
Hitting teams financial would help. It would never happen but if a player gets abused at stadium x, the whole team and organisation should be punished with points deductions and stadium bans or something.
So punish those who weren't racist because someone in the crowd was? I don't see how a club is able to control what comes out of someones mouth or another person action.
If players are walking out of matches, then the crowd is more likely to speak up against the few being wankers.
Was listening to a podcast and they mentioned Tom Ince. Remember when Paul was telling everyone he was going to Inter.
Yes. Punish them all. Im confident it will help the issue overall. Even though it is complete madness.Originally Posted by Smjffy
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West Ham should be legally required to have him as their manager at all times.
Scoring the winner after that fucking dance was Lingard's career peak.
His whole career.
Lingard has gone over 24 hours without a goal or assist. That is over 1400 minutes. That is 16 full games. Not bad.
Those sort of statistics make him out to be more useless than he really is. He shouldn't be starting for a club who have spent a trillion quid, but he would be down on the list of people who need bumming out to turn the CULTURE around.
Lingard's constant involvement makes me worry about Ole's suitability.
Late to the Pardew. Carry on.
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7 posts up.
Well the Jurgen Klopp signs tread is ageing rather well.I was looking for a "Will Jurgen Klopp win the Premier League thread but doesn't seem to be one.
Simon however had this beaut.
Some of you were bang on the money btw. Kiko especially.
At least link it ffs, I think I was pretty sceptical.
Sadly right.
Only an air disaster can stop them now.
This version is so much older than I remember. Time flies.
This part is every bit as wrong as it was right.
Even the most mental probably wouldn't have expected it to be this good. If he lands the title then he's there with Shankly and Paisley forever more, I reckon.
EDIT: Also, this reads even better than it did then, I reckon. I would say we weren't prepared.
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At least let this be the most smug you will get.
If Liverpool win the league and you go full on Scouse I'll be asking someone to ban you for a month.
He really has done an outstanding job and were I a jobbing winger playing at an anywhere near decent level in Europe I'd be praying for the call. What he gets out of players is ridiculous.
And why is your every post in that thread an ellipsis?
He's one domestic success away from a statue, although I'd argue he's done enough to be part of a Paisley, Shankly, Rafa, Klopp Mount Rushmore.
Mount Scousemore. They could build it in the bay like the Statue of Liberty, albeit Liverpool was the world's number one slaving city, but whatever.
If we all collectively make a Christmas wish
I've been thinking about Luis Suarez and his influence on the decade. Not as a super-duper football megapower but as a man who managed to squeeze all his controversy into a single decade.
2010 World Cup Quarter Final - Handled on the line to stop Ghana taking the lead in the tie. He's sent off and celebrates Gyan's missed penalty.
20th November 2010 - Bites Otman Bakkal during an Ajax match. 2 match suspension which is then increased to 7.
15th October - Found guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra during a match. 8 match suspension.
21st April 2013 - Bites Branoslav Ivanovic. 10 game ban.
2014 World Cup - Bites Giorgio Chielini. Four month ban and a 9 game international match ban.
What a top twat.
But he was our twat.
As far as being a shit house though, John Terry takes some beating although we'd have have to extend it to century as opposed to decade. I think it's fair to say both have improved somewhat in the last 4/5 years though and let their football do the talking.
The part I've never understood about racial attacks by sportsmen or supporters is most of their team mates are black but some attack opposing players. It's one of those wtf things that my mind can't comprehend. The Chelsea/Tottenham game the other day being a good example as half the players on the pitch were black. You attack one, you attack all in my mind.
In short. Animals > People.
You’re surprised at racism being illogical?
Nothing surprises me in today's world. I remember a while back a couple took their baby on a bus and started freaking out because the baby died, it later transpired that the baby was dead all along and it barely touched raised a reaction if I'm honest. Sometimes I think the world would be better if something occurred which wiped 3/4 of it out.
In answer to your actual question though, of course it's illogical but I still struggle to comprehend how people can be like that. Not just race but in general too. You're not black, white, whatever, you're human. Or not as it appears being humane is a lost trait.
Nuts
Genuinely dreading the match tomorrow. Can't remember ever having lower expectations.
Do you think Greenwood is going to get a start at all? I've brought him off the bench to replace Vardy.
We are playing Newcastle don't forget.
Most anticipated United to be shit this season so another three points would go along way to surviving the drop and could even take them to the lofty heights of 7th or even 6th if Tottenham spanner it against Brighton which is pretty special all things considered but I'd like United to get them instead because I think Shindig's had it worse.
As you were talking about players being a shit house, Andy Robertson is amazing at it, and I bloody love him for it.
Big game today, hopefully we get through it.
Jose dropping N’Dombele from the squad completely. It begins.
I fucking hate VAR.
Var is fine. The rules are shit.
I had Harry Kane FG.I had a sixth sense that Brighton score next after it was (correctly) ruled out. FML.
I think VAR needs a little rejig for the offside calls, sod the whole body part, I'd accept the feet since it's football. Go by that and make it universal then it could/should be easier. Fractional decisions by armpits and hair strands is just too much.
It’ll eventually end the sport at these levels if they’re too stubborn/stupid to get rid of it before that.
Fucking hell Spurs. Even when I want you to win you fuck it up.
Another goal disallowed due a player's pubic hair being offside?
Yep. It's bullshit.
It’s this. VAR is fine, despite what the boomers say. The offside rule itself needs to be changed
It's VAR. If it hadn't happened we wouldn't be getting this crap and if you don't adjust the rules to compensate for these all too obvious outcomes then the implementation of the system is shit.
EDIT: Maybe a bit of both, but you get the idea.
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