Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
Are you being serious? That's the assault? It came through as breaking news on one of my apps and I assumed it was a full on case of fist to face X 10. FML. They are all such massive cunts who simply cannot be believed. It's unbelievably frustrating.Originally Posted by phonics
EDIT: You're serious.
Last edited by Smjffy; 09-12-2019 at 07:19 PM.
"I'm not corrupt, I'm incompetent"
She's probably both.
Of course she isn't corrupt. Having contacts in the government doesn't make her corrupt, it's her job.
People don't want her to be unbiased, they want her to be biased towards their favourite party. Add in that she's on telly a lot and a woman and you have the perfect storm for internet seething frustrated men to abuse her for no reason on a daily basis.
Oh I don't think she's 'corrupt' in the sense that she's being paid off, I think being shit at her job benefits her so she continues to do so.
What's that line again? "If someone tells you it's wet, and someone tells you it's dry your job is to look out the window"?
Jim, describing the above video as someone 'being punched' because two Tory senior advisors told you is not being unbiased. It's just repeating spin.
I think that's a problem common to all Twitter journalism, not just Laura Kuenssberg. If they think the expectation is to tweet out as quickly as possible rather than to tweet out quality content (if such a thing is even possible) then half of it is going to end up being shite.
Absolutely beaming with excitement to wake up on Friday morning with a Conservative majority. I don’t think I will even bother with the all nighter this time.
Genuine question... How is Kuenssberg still employed? Surely she is breaking every BBC rule under the sun? I don't agree with those rules, but they exist, and surely she is being way too partisan??
She does it well because she's just quoting 'Senior Party Sources' so it's just 'reporting the news' when it's actually just repeating spin. Peston did a whole essay on it when Oborne called him a twat. He didn't come out looking great.
BBC rules are you double source everything and she did. It's just that both her sources were shite.
Also the left need to be very careful adopting Peter Oborne, he has gone mental and is clearly being funded by the Muslim Council among others.
Always confused me how TTH has been seemingly so right leaning over the years, whilst I never expected this to change I can't tell if it is just bantz at this point or serious when the quality of government is this inept. I'm not saying Labour would be any less inept but if you or I was this shit at our respective jobs regarding cabinet minister performance we would have been binned long ago.
The right will always stick with their side. It's what makes them so effective, the left would rather spend it's time finding flaws in the arguments of those that agree with them instead.
She's every bit as impartial as the BBC itself.
I watched the QT U30's yesterday and the best thing to come from it is making it a criminal offence for MP's who spout bollocks and deceive. It won't happen because there will be none left but the good ones are few and far between. No one believes a word that any of them say and that's dangerous.
It will get worse and people will become further disillusioned. I feel that we'll be rioting in a few years and the army will be forced to patrol the streets. I'm convinced of it, in fact.
You cannot hope to bribe or twist
(thank God!) the British journalist.
But, seeing what the man will do
unbribed, there’s no occasion to.
Let's never again here any bullshit about the BBC being a bastion of the left or a counterweight to the Tory newspapers.
Peter Oborne converted to Islam when he left the Telegraph.
We don't do that kind of civil unrest, Smiffy.
Something being bad doesn't mean something else won't be worse.
Yet. We hit new lows on a yearly basis and this particular campaign has been absolutely awful. No one comes out looking good.
I'm obviously not massively clued up with politics although I do try and pay attention but from day one of the campaign you had the Conservatives doctoring video's, changing Twitter handles etc. I just want some honesty.
I read something like 88% of the Conservatives ads are lies or half truths, the Lib Dems can fuck off purely because of JS, she's evil and undemocratic whilst Labour have been a joke for years.
You also have to bare in mind I live in Wales, a big Brexit area despite benefiting from being in the EU but it's like a different world living here and living down south as I have done. I don't pay any attention to the polls, opinions and all that rubbish, I prefer to listen to people and that's why I am certain it won't be a majority for the Conservatives.
Politicians should be seen by their actions, not heard. None answer questions, it's always deflecting when I think the majority of the nation would much rather it was told as it is whether it's good news or bad news.
I really want to vote Labour (not Corbyn, although I do like him) but honestly, I don't know who to vote for because I don't know who to believe.
Flintshire, my area, was the first to get Universal Credit, our NHS is run by Labour, I worked in care, I've had to sign on, on and off over the years. Things like the bedroom tax fucked so many of us, obviously my own mental health challenges and the lack of support, facilities. I just feel really bitter at times because I feel our generation got royally screwed.
Watching QT yesterday about buying houses and electric cars etc and it's a fantasy, most struggle to even feed themselves for the month.
lol
Probably couldn't find a second point that reflected well tbf.
"Voting Tory gets Labour in here." says our local Lib Dem candidate.
Should have kept going into what I assume was the press corps.
That CCHQ one where they parody Love Actually and Boris turns up playing the character who is secretly trying to shag his mates wife seems a bit...
That's very on brand that the words "Get Brexit Done" themselves are BREAKING THE GRIDLOCK given that seems to be the entire Tory strategy.
Well, that and Boris saying OVEN READY a lot.
Ok, that is brilliant. He's manifestly awful so it undermines it somewhat, but it's still brilliant.
The Jon Ashworth quotes are quite funny.
Many a true word said in jest and all that.
The idea that he would MIND GAME his [supposed] friend with specifics is lol as well.
What shifter on that bad boy?
We should have a dedicated gearbox thread. I'm am engine guy but I'll read.
The article in question:
BBC News - General election 2019: Ads are 'indecent, dishonest and untruthful'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50726500
Got to blame the defeat on something.
That is and has been since at least the 90s the fundamental difference between liberal and conservative political parties in the West. The conservatives lie often and are unashamed about it. The liberals still have shame. It’s also the reason why conservatives are better “lol trolls” than liberals
I mean that article has a graph that shows the Lib Dems as being the worst offenders within the 31 ads cited. And lol at 0% of Labour ads being misleading, that article again cites 4.
In any case all lying should be absolutely unacceptable and stamped out.
It reached a nadir for me with this shitshow from the tories at around 5 minutes in:
Absolutely ridiculous and simply shouldn't be allowed.
Last edited by Yevrah; 10-12-2019 at 08:49 PM.
How are '0% of Labour ads' misleading when their entire campaign is based the government planning to sell the health service to Donald Trump?
Was going to say, that tweet itself being misleading is a bit of an issue.
Labour do their dirty work through the twittersphere, which doesn't count as advertising as per that article's metric.
I'm torn over all the online focus. On the one hand, I don't have to see any of it, which is nice (no new labour new danger for me), but on the other there's just so much shit they come out with that you can tell 'plays well' in some way or other (oven fucking ready) and it's just infuriating to have to be exposed to. Like the conservatives sudden desire to apologise immediately for everything, which I assume was originally aimed at juxtaposing Corbyn's dogged refusal to do so over the whole antisemitism fiasco.
The far left parties definitely resort to similar tactics in their bids to become relevant
If anyone still needed convincing.
The latest YouGov poll.
https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/sta...34050184024064
I don't know how to embed the Twitter ones but yeah.
They needed it to be down to 0 by now, 28 is way too far gone.
It'll be fine.
Honestly, Boris is fisting this. People don't like being lied to and there's an increasing perception/awareness that he's doing so.
Pretty much everything that has happened in the campaign has been irrelevant noise. The only two things that mattered were 1) Farage standing half his candidates down, and 2) the Lib Dems being utterly useless. Those two things have given the Tories and Labour the ability to smash through the smaller party votes, and then it comes down to the Con/Lab marginals in the midlands and north. Unless Labour have a truly outstanding day specifically in that area (their city votes piling up are irrelevant), they will not do enough to prevent the majority.
Farage is still going to cost the Tories maybe 5 seats, so they will hope they have enough in hand for that not to matter.
Don't get me wrong, Labour are so spectacularly useless that it most likely won't matter, but the whole thing has been awful, absolutely awful. From all sides.
We having a new “who you voting?” thread tomoz?
I mean this one is still called 2017
I'm a twit
Isn't everyone just voting the same as they did last time (and always did)?
Has she a brass neck or is she actually thick as pigshit? Either way it's not good. Hilarious though.
I have been predicting a 30 - 40 Conservative majority since the start of the campaigns and have seen nothing so far that will change my mind.
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