Probably. I was trying to work out where the incentive for them is if they're just doing them on the Network but I suppose if it has a weekly two hour TV show then that's more coverage for them to promote more Takeovers on the Network.
Thus diluting the quality and probably starting to ruin everything that makes NXT good in the first place. Great.
The second hour of the first two episodes will be shown live on the Network btw.
USA will not move the final two episodes of Suits.
This is the way Raw & Smackdown work now is it not? Do people even buy individual PPVs these days? Like you I'm expecting the quality to plummet, certainly if they start 'losing' to AEW and Vince decides to get involved. Left to its own devices it should still be ok, they have plenty of wrestlers to fill the extra half an hour or so of telly they need to make.Originally Posted by Ian
Yeah if it's still being run by the same people I actually think that second hour could or at least should be good. They're clearly high on Dijakovic, Priest and Dain just now, you've got the likes of Lee and Kushida not doing much yet and hopefully more Pete Dunne to come so they've definitely got the roster to fill out an extra once you add in the tag teams, some of the cannon fodder and in-development guys and the wimmins.
It's mainly hicks in the backwater with crap internet who actually buy PPVs.
Dunne said shortly after Takeover (the US one) that he was moving to the US for good with Bate to follow shortly and the post-match of Bate/WALTER seriously hinted at that.
I'd imagine that Trent Severn will stay in the UK but come over for the occasional tag match.
Bit risky for a young man like Bate to come over without his dad so hopefully he'll be alright.
That is good news though. Bate is superb.
Another Smackdown centred around THE BEST IN THE WORLD.
Great stuff.
I dunno if I even want to watch Gable beat him know it's all about fucking Shane so I may just not watch this week's at all.
Owens to NXT or AEW as his old nasty heal self would be nice.
Baron Corbin v Chad Gable in the final lol.
To NXT so he can join Undisputed Era.
Established names moving to NXT would be the death knell for the WWE imo. I know the TV deal changes things but if the talent is seen not to view going to Raw/Smackdown to be the biggest and best thing around why should the audience give a shit?
If they have an audience that still gives a shit at this point then I don't think that will matter.
Also, good luck with Owens going anywhere, he's not long into a five year 'contract'
I think with Owens it makes sense because his UE mates are also his old ROH. Sending Orton, Lesnar, Reigns, Seth, etc would be bonkers.
ROH poaches off the top of head.
Seth Rollins
Daniel Bryan
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Undisputed Era
AJ Styles
Samoa Joe
Cesaro
Tommaso Ciampa
Brandi Rhodes sucks as the head female for AEW.
They have an audience because they’re literally the only one on tv. Now they’re competing with a rival and themselves?
He also seems to be at every Takeover sporting a UE shirt.
UE v The Elite on Wednesday is the new Monday Night Wars
Commentary changes.
Dio Maddin (formerly Brennan Williams a NXT wrestler who has yet to appear on TV) has joined 205 Live as Nigel McGuiness is now only in NXT.
Vic Joseph is going to RAW with Michael Cole headed to Smackdown.
He might struggle with that, it's been cancelled.
So WWE normally announce the old twats returning to get a cheap ratings boost..... and this week both shows dipped. Uh-oh.
Reading the results from last night and quite aside from most of the matches sounding a bit yawn the way they doled out time to various matches looks stupid.
Nobody needs a 21-minute Orton match in their life and it sounds like Rowan / Reigns (nice that Rowan won and that Harper is back but such a big win feels wasted if they're just having them going back to being AN Other tag team again) could probably have had five minutes shaved off it as well given the ending. Do that, half the Orton match and give five extra minutes to the US title, Bayley / Charlotte, and New Day / Revival to let those guys have a banger.
All sounds like it went pretty much to the script anyway. Definitely feels too soon for the Fiend to be challenging for the title so hopefully they don't fuck that up too much.
I'm sure people are jacking off to it because it's Sasha Banks and people can't accept she's shite on the main roster.... but Sasha Vs Becky was one of the worst matches I've seen in a long time, or at least the shittest finish I can recall in ages. If you want to go that route, have them brawl to a double count out, or potentially have Becky use the chair first to get DQed if you want to give Sasha a reason for a rematch. It's not difficult. What you shouldn't do is have her hit the ref, immediately have Cole call it an accident (so she might not be DQed?), have the ref stay down for 3 quarters of an hour, have them brawl throughout the arena whilst constantly telling us "THE BELL HAS NOT RUNG! THE REFEREE IS STILL DOWN! THIS MATCH IS STILL GOING!!!" only for the moment they get in the ring to have Cole go "oh by the way lads.... Becky's been DQed.... that's all folks!" Fucking bollocks.
The rest of the show was pretty forgettable too. They need Lesnar... everything feels smalltime without him.
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They absolutely don't need Lesnar, they need to not be shit.
We'll get another interminable Lesnar reign at some point so let's just enjoy somebody else getting a shit run with the belt before his next shit one.
WWE's continuity editor must have been on his break when they decided to have Kane come out and save Rollins last night. Sounds a fitting finish to a fairly rubbish episode, though apparently King Jezza's (ugh) match against Gable was really good.
Latest BTE feels like the begining of an Omega heel turn.
Return of The Cleaner, I'm all for it.
I just realised from what I heard of Vic Joseph from various commentaries he is simply a Micheal Cole v2.
Embrace it lads.
I just saw the clip of the Pedigree from CoC and I must say Boatman did a better job of taking it than some of Rollins' smaller opponents have.
Ask and you shall receive.
Say bye to the WWE title until Mania, lads.
I see from the Smackdown results (and following last week) that KO is definitely not cosplaying as Stone Cold any more, what with begging for his job and now serving Shane with legal papers. If this is building up to KO ousting Shane (for a bit) then fine, but.... lads, you've gone too far the other way.
Also this Bryan face turn, assuming that's what's happening, has been handled oddly. It won't matter as the fans just want to cheer him but still.
The crowd was dead silent for Rusev's return.
I reckon WWE are gonna have a rough time selling tickets if the Don Callis booked Impact buys ROH and MLW continues to pump out quality on top of AEW running weekly shows.
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They didn't even sell out the Garden, did they?
I heard that but couldn't work out if they're just bored of knowing nothing will be done with him, it being an entirely unexplained absence or a collective eyeroll at him being part of the Kanellis shit.
Yeah, it's dumb. As is "Hey, he's back ... with a moustache!" It's a shave, not a gimmick change.
I mean it really wouldn't surprise me if he was taken off TV as simple punishment for managing to get himself more over than they planned. They really don't like that.
I wonder if Smackdowns tv deal now looks mental to the people.who negotiated it at USA.
We're in a timeline where the words 'beta cuck' made their way into a WWE broadcast.
Smackdown is Fox, no? Unless I've misunderstood something. It looks a mental deal regardless.
I assume that's why Bork is now on Smackdown though if that's to appease Fox I dunno if his current schedule is going to satisfy them.
"No no it's great, we'll put our most prestigious title on him and then he'll disappear for three months! It's the sort of booking that's made us the ratings powerhouse we are today."
Yep whoops.
Smackdown to cannabilise NXT which in turn ruins that show.
Who said that?
It happened during the Kinellis shit. It ... err... might've been Corey. It was written on a page by actual writers.
The whole angle has been completely bizarre and it's basically them punishing him for neither of them saying she was pregnant because even they're not stupid enough to mess an actual pregnant woman around.
They shouldn't need to do that (they've more than enough people if they'd just fucking book properly.) And given NXT now has its own TV deal there's only so much they can get away with now they have more time to fill.
Baszler needs moved up in the draft and it wouldn't surprise me if Undisputed Era are as well (God help them) but otherwise the NXT roster probably needs left alone for a bit until they build up some of the roster they don't currently use that much. Gargano is probably about done in NXT as well.
There are probably people who'd also benefit from being back in NXT like Breeze seems to have done so far but I think I read a thing saying NXT won't be part of the draft. It's still not just a third brand, not least because that'd probably be a bit embarrassing for Vince. I do like the TV spot they're pushing for it though that as good as says "Yeah NXT is the good WWE product."
First episode of nu-NXT sounds like it was a bit of a banger. Baszler vs. La Rae feels like a mismatch at this so hopefully they build the latter up a bit, Dream vs. Strong sounds awesome (and hopefully leaves Dream free to move up to NXT World Title level after a bit of a break from title feuds) and while ending on a massive brawl (featuring Imperium!) seems a weird way to end the first show it also sounds fun.
They are a great addition to NXT! Walter is such a great wrestler.
I take it you watched his recent match with Bate? Can't remember if you pitched into the chat about that.
Yeah i ended up watching. They had match in Progress last year and I posted the photo from that match.
Im one of those wankers that knew about him putting on quality matches in England and PWG before he joined NXT.
He would be perfect in a Main Event at Wrwstlemania lol or ideally signing for AEW down the road.
Bate is a freak. He has so much potential and could be selling out massive arenas.
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I didn't even realise that that photo wasn't from the Takeover match.
Yeah they had been fueding in England before NXT and you could have gone.
England is in the Golden Age.
Anyone got any links or anything to watch the first hour?
Edit: http://watchwrestling.in/watch-wwe-nxt-9-18-19/ Seems to work.
Luke Harper to AEW please.
Well he'd celebrated his big comeback by bitching about WWE so he's probably off telly until his contract runs out now.
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