Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
Jo Swinson has just said that there should be a people's vote to choose the Brexit path then immediately followed it up by saying that she doesn't believe there is a preference among the public for one path.
I think I've had enough and I've only been on for half an hour.
The lollest outcome would be remain winning any second referendum, but then Nigel Farage winning the subsequent general election.
Boris didn't want an election yesterday. Now he's treating it as a threat. Tony Blair would fucking steamroll this lot. Whilst wearing an "I did Iraq" t-shirt during his entire stint.
I'm getting the sense that MPs will vote against a general election before 31st October. I don't know if Boris can call one anyway, but fucking hell.
He'd need to win a vote in Parliament to get one so that seems unlikely until Comrade Corbs stopping sitting on his hands.
If there's no election then the sandal wearers (by this point, I hate both sides equally, except Cummings because everything he does is funny) will have to get their silly bill through the Lords before it prorogues. After that, Boris is a bit screwed, as he will have to either cave in on the backstop (which would be funny) or perform some kind of Custer's Last Stand and eventually get thrown out.
The last couple of days have been glorious.
LOL at the prospect of the opposition keeping Jonson hanging by forcing him to go to Brussels to agree the extension before an election.
Last edited by Henry; 05-09-2019 at 10:27 AM.
Bozza has had a mare here.
His brothers just quit
I wouldn't count him out just yet, Corbyn remains wildly unpopular and an election could go either way.
Fewer things resonate with the public than Westminster folk think.
An election now seems like a complete dice roll, that will probably just end up in another hung parliament.
Letting Deadly Dom loose on the campaign might be interesting though.
It'll be a hung parliament and we'll be absolutely no further forward.
By process of elimination:
No deal won't happen ever.
The deal the EU will give us will always be shit because for them to offer anything else would be lunacy and be akin to shooting their own project in the face.
Which only leaves us with (and as I've said for some time), not actually leaving. It's just how long it takes to give up the ghost really and that could genuinely be years.
Depends how it plays out. Presumably his narrative is Parliament versus the People, which, outside of the remain heartlands might play surprisingly well.
Farage will probably get his revenge on him though. I'm not sure how a leave alliance holds (or even forms).
But it makes no difference if the parliamentary arithmetic isn't sufficient to push through no deal, or a deal, which I can't (in the immediate future) see it being. There are different reasons for each, but not enough people want no deal and nowhere near enough want whatever deal we'll get and based on polling I can't see how an election will change that.
I assume I misheard, but talk of May's deal being resurrected this week was interesting. If I didn't mishear, well, the roflcopter is being fired up.
No, it sneaked back in via Stephen Kinnock's unopposed amendment I think. It's madness. Trying to call the whole thing off has always been the most likely and desired outcome. It's just what happen after that, or ever getting to that point, which might be problematic.
I was interested in this Cummings bloke everyone chatters on about so I'm watching this since it's about the only thing on youtube where he's actually speaking:
It's like something out of the Thick of It, he's an absolute moron.
At some point we'll have to focus on something else and Article 50 will get an open ended extension from the EU. The whole thing will then be shelved to be sorted whenever, and will never see the light of day again.
Unless Farage gets a seat.
Lol.
The thing with Cummings is he is:
a) utterly deranged
b) has a far greater understanding of the public than anyone else in politics
a) doesn't work well for him in these Westminster games where b) isn't yet in play, but writing him off now is the most dangerous thing remainers can do - and they are absolutely doing it.
A national campaign will be very different from the already fucked parliamentary situation. The only sticking point may be how much control he is given.
There's now apparently an anonymous minister briefing that if Labour keep Johnson hanging and try to force him to ask for an extention that he will resign instead.
You'll never take me alive!
Then we can have another six-week Tory leadership election, ideal really.
They mean he will resign as Prime Minister and watch the idiots try to put something shit together.
A Lab/Lib agreement would be funny enough, but throw in the SNP and it'll be in Fawlty Towers/The Office territory.
Which sitcom / farce are we in currently by this metric?
Only Fools and Horses.
Del Boy = Boris
Rodney = the British people
Trigger = Jean-Claude Juncker
Uncle Albert = take a guess
I’ve only seen stills but what’s with all the cops lined up behind Johnson for the speech? Is he going down the China/Russia line of things?
Excellent.Former Prime Minister John Major says Boris Johnson should fire Dominic Cummings, the adviser behind his Brexit strategy.
I take it back Yev.
I’m telling you Phonics, it’s proper fucked.
It's going a bit blue screen of death. Imagine if Labour weren't complete shit, they would win about 500 seats.
I'd do it with the saving grace being his minority government would be flimsy enough to find itself in another election within months.
What's the whole Corbyn issue, genuine question? Is it the Labour party as a whole or is it him personally? It can't be incompetence because, well....
It's him personally. He is of low intellect, low charisma and generally not very good at his job.
It's because he's seen as a bit of a relic, and a career protester. I think it's mean to call him a thicko (even if he is). His ideas, such as they are, are quite a bit out of step with what you'd call modern political thinking. Perhaps the world needs dramatic change, but, then, we've had his brand before and it hasn't really panned out too well, so he'd probably just fuck things up even more spectacularly than the middle-of-the-roaders.
The irony of that being that Boris has spent his entire time as PM being publicly owned.
It really isn't that, socialists just choose to believe that because it gives them a convenient excuse. If there was a charismatic, eloquent socialist then they would be very popular I think. There's a clamour for a lot of his policies but not for him to be PM.
The anti-semitism stuff hurts him badly too - even if he isn't personally anti-semitic, he has spent his life as a fellow traveller and it just dates him badly. A modern, successful left wing leader would not be tainted by 70s and 80s factionalism like he is.
If people genuinely believe that Corbyn's -50 approval rating is just because the Sun call him names, then the left will probably never return to power as they just don't understand how people think.
Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 06-09-2019 at 10:48 AM.
Didn't go to Harrow or Eton = retard
Harrow is 52nd in the private school league tables, FYI. Eton is 18th.
Doesn’t really matter what the academic rankings say if they’re still the basis for the absurd class-based pecking order in your country