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    Don't you kink-shame him.

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    Yeah RL wtf

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    It wouldn't even be the weirdest kink we've had on here. I'm not sure it's even top 5.

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    Mahow preferring already great looking women after they've got their alien costumes on is number one, and then everything else wallows around in the distance.

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    Why am I always at the top for these things?

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    You're the biggest deviant here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Why am I always at the top for these things?
    That question should be addressed to yourself rather than the rest of us.

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    Di Marzio and Romano saying Inter might be taking Sanchez off our hands.

    It pains me to say it, but given our window is shut and how thin we already are in attack, I'm not sure we can afford to sell him at this point.

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    What exactly ever happened with him anyway? Was it injuries or did he just basically retire once he got the huge deal?

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    Can't pretend I watch Arsenal, but I understand he'd been playing pretty badly for them for a while before he moved, but it was put down to him wanting out. Nothing has changed since he got to Utd though; he's just been average to rubbish. Seems he might just be 'done'.

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    If we can get rid we get rid. No question.

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    I think it's a bit revisionist to say he looked shot before he left Arsenal (although with hindsight there is an air of the last days of Torres at Liverpool about him) but I do recall Arsenal fans on here saying that much of his 'good work' in hassling for the ball and the like was actually because he gave it away so often and his relative drop in performance wasn't simply a reflection of the wider malaise at Arsenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Can't pretend I watch Arsenal, but I understand he'd been playing pretty badly for them for a while before he moved, but it was put down to him wanting out. Nothing has changed since he got to Utd though; he's just been average to rubbish. Seems he might just be 'done'.
    From what I saw at Arsenal he was always decent when he was the main man, there was a huge drop off as soon as he moved from central striker to a wide position.

    There was a huge difference in his goal involvement with Giroud in and out of them team.

    I think that combined with age related drop off and playing for a more defensive manager done him in.

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    Some of his best performances were as a wide man with Giroud through the middle - his whole first season, Giroud always having been a great foil for goal threatening 'inside forwards' of the like of the French partners, Hazard et al.

    Toward the end, he became isolated easily and his link up play went lacking - he dropped off a cliff in terms of his 90 minute performances but was still getting a few goals and assists due to being in and around the right areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Mahow preferring already great looking women after they've got their alien costumes on is number one, and then everything else wallows around in the distance.
    Surely no kink discussion is complete without James and that woman he posted in the Shameful Lustage thread.

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    I'd still let Begum blow me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    Surely no kink discussion is complete without James and that woman he posted in the Shameful Lustage thread.
    Is that not just very questionable taste rather than an actual link? Where's the line?

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    That woman is over any line.

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    Ashley Cole has retired lads

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    Some of his best performances were as a wide man with Giroud through the middle - his whole first season, Giroud always having been a great foil for goal threatening 'inside forwards' of the like of the French partners, Hazard et al.

    Toward the end, he became isolated easily and his link up play went lacking - he dropped off a cliff in terms of his 90 minute performances but was still getting a few goals and assists due to being in and around the right areas.
    In terms of goal involvement he was always better off without Giroud in team (stats here: ,https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.red...h_and_without/) obviously you can still play well and score/assist which you would be in a far better position to judge. I obviously dont watch games in as much detail as you would as a fan.

    I've always found him an interesting player, to me he always seemed like there was an extra level he could have gone to but very rarely achieved it.

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    He's just your typical 'luxury player'. He's beautiful to watch when chipping into a team that's firing on all cylinders, but when things aren't easy he goes missing. He has no appetite for 'getting stuck in'.

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    Nonsense, if there's one thing Sanchez actually has shown in a United shirt, it's a willingness to do the running and 'get stuck in'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    Ashley Cole has retired lads
    Twitter debate on who was the best.

    I went Cole, Irwin, Evra, Baines, Le Saux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    In terms of goal involvement he was always better off without Giroud in team (stats here: ,https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.red...h_and_without/) obviously you can still play well and score/assist which you would be in a far better position to judge. I obviously dont watch games in as much detail as you would as a fan.

    I've always found him an interesting player, to me he always seemed like there was an extra level he could have gone to but very rarely achieved it.
    Data without commentary for the most part. The first seasons stats are the truest as Alwxis played wide all year, regardless of who else was in there with him, albeit it must be pointed out that I’d have thought (no evidence other than memory) that his minutes without Giroud that year were with Theo at striker, which was basically in ‘easier’ matches - a trend which continued into the next year albeit with Danny Welbeck in place of Theo. In year 3 we often played Giroud and Sanchez centrally together in the year Wenger was experimenting with 5 at the back. Additionally, Sanchez played maybe 25% of his time at Arsenal as a striker in place of Giroud, and would be expected to contribute more goals centrally, without Giroud than when playing wider with him.

    Pop all of the mitigations together and you get a better idea that the data in isolation like that is a bit loose. I’d prefer to see Arsenal XG, goals and assists with both on the pitch vs with only one, and some way of assessing the quality of the data by looking at the league positions of the opponents, then you perhaps get something nuanced enough to compare to the fans vie.

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    He was never all that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smjffy View Post
    Twitter debate on who was the best.

    I went Cole, Irwin, Evra, Baines, Le Saux.
    It not worth debating. Cole was levels above them all. He was the most complete left-back since 1998. I would rank him above Carlos and Maldini in that position. Im going there.

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    Coutinho in Germany to complete his loan move to complete obscurity whilst big Maurizio has told Can he's surplus to requirements at Juve.

    Worked out well boys, worked out well.

    :schadenfreude:

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    He wasn't better than Maldini.

    My favourite thing about Ashley Cole is still that for all he could keep Ronaldo quiet he fell for Valencia's one move seemingly every single time.

    Well, that and the "Well I suppose you're liable to get booed when you play away from home..." commentary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    He wasn't better than Maldini.

    My favourite thing about Ashley Cole is still that for all he could keep Ronaldo quiet he fell for Valencia's one move seemingly every single time.

    Well, that and the "Well I suppose you're liable to get booed when you play away from home..." commentary.
    Im with Ashley on this one, especially as a left back. Maldini wasnt that great going forward but was superior in defence. I would take Cole as my LB in my dream team.

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    As if anyone would have Ashley Cole ahead of Maldini.

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    I came late to the party where Maldini was a CB. He still wouldn't get into my favourite CB though.

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    He is your favourite tennis player though, right?

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    Balotelli has signed for newly promoted Brescia in Serie A

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    Cashley over Maldini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    I came late to the party where Maldini was a CB. He still wouldn't get into my favourite CB though.
    I watched Serie A that far back but can't remember much of Maldini as a left back.

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    He played as a left back for most of his career.

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    Depending on how much your trust transfermarkt it’s a lot closer than you would think

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/paolo-m...n/spieler/5803

    There’s quite a few missing games but even listing them all as LB keeps it closer than I would have imagined. He certainly moved central later on though
    Last edited by Danny; 19-08-2019 at 06:57 PM.

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    I'm sure he was still left back in 2005 at Istanbul, and he started playing in about 1942 so has to qualify as a left back.

    Presumably at some points in the 90s he would have been on the left of a three, which is kind of both and kind of neither.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 19-08-2019 at 07:43 PM.

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    Fuck it. He played there at Steve Harper's testimonial. Can't believe I forgot that.

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    Great work finding a Newcastle angle on whether Maldini played most at left or centre back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I'm sure he was still left back in 2005 at Istanbul
    He was indeed. They had Stam and Nesta in the middle and Cafu on the right as part of what must be one of the oldest back lines ever assembled.

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    CSKA Moscow defence over the last few years must be getting on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Great work finding a Newcastle angle on whether Maldini played most at left or centre back.
    Sometimes you need to see greatness in person. Best player on the pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    He was indeed. They had Stam and Nesta in the middle and Cafu on the right as part of what must be one of the oldest back lines ever assembled.
    Nesta was still in his 20s then. 39 year old Costacurta was on the bench though.

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    Costacurta is still on the Milan bench in my mind's eye, as is Sebastiano Rossi.

    I had the same thing with Del Piero regarding greatness in person, never saw the fuss whatsoever, then saw him at Stamford Bridge in I think a Champions League tie late in his career, and he was about 1000 light years ahead of all his team mates in everything he was doing. Opposite effect with Buffon though, thought he was shite.

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    Zappacosta has joined Roma on loan.
    Franck Ribery is joining Fiorentina on a free

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    Lozano had joined Napoli from PSV
    Renato Sanches has joined Lille

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    Sturridge has joined Trabzonspor. I had him locked to join Rodgers at Leicester. £20 lost on that way

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    All that did was make me look up Colin Kazim-Richards' whereabouts. He cannot stay put.

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    Was not expecting Veracruz.

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