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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Best sporting event I've ever seen, included Vickie Guerrero (was literally sat next to her) telling me that I missed the best bit when I went for a piss while I tried to explain to her I didn't speak spanish so the promo sections were crap.<br><br>I was so close to ringside that at one point a wrestler took a fans beer and smashed it over the guys head and I got the brunt of it.

    PS. Has anyone ever watched CMLL before? I didnt have a clue what was going on the entire time, There seemed to be 3 rounds but they weren't time or pin based?
    You get some shows on NJ World so I've seen one or two but not enough to make sense of anything.

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    Brock burried seth? Lol

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    Mooching about doling out F5s and German suplexes is about 50% of Brock's on-air time. (So about 10% of any given feud he's in.)

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    It's nice that he's added the shit head bounce dancing to his repertoire though.

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    Raw reunion has gotten me back into the Attitude era watching I was doing and I've decided to watch WCW alongside it.

    I've watched 3 episodes of Nitro now and it's weird that Big Show/Giant (who looks incredible) is constantly in mid-card squashes with the World Title. So far he's gone through Shark (I am not a fish), Ice Train and Scott Norton.

    Insane the amount of people across both companies who are now dead from that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    It's nice that he's added the shit head bounce dancing to his repertoire though.
    Boombox Brock is the best thing he's done in about three years.

    Some surprisingly positive reviews for Raw from last night but given one of those reviews was calling endless squashed for the Fridge Raiders a bad thing and this week had it as a tentative up and that this show also featured Rollins vs. Ziggler I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

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    Maria challenging someone to pin her while she has her legs in stirrups must be the highlight.

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    The baby to become 24/7 champion.

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    The reviewer I read gave it a 6.7 (I will watch it later) which is the best in at least a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    The baby to become 24/7 champion.
    Attitude-Era Vince would have had it crowned a week ago at the very least.

    Fuck the PG era.

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    She gives birth, she's lying back holding the baby, referee counts the three as her shoulders are both against the pillow.

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    If you can make it more comedic then you have a chance at being the head writer.

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    My takeaway from watching the 90s stuff was that it was just as shit as it is now but with better performers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    My takeaway from watching the 90s stuff was that it was just as shit as it is now but with better performers.
    I started at KOTR '96 due to the 3:16 speech and outside of Mankind/Taker, the early rumblings of Bret/Austin and Pillman's got a gun it's been a hard slog.

    WCW, in my so far limited experience, seems to be doing better. I can see why they won the ratings war for a good while as they had a much more clear vision (Just about to hit the nWo storyline) with some awful bits. WWF was trying to hit into the 'Attitude Era' but there was still a lot of leftover crap from the New Generation.

    Apparently 97 is a lot better.

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    Where are you watching the WCW Nitro stuff, Mahow?

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    We had this conversation previously but there was a bit of resistance in the form of "Noooooo but Attitude Era "

    The main difference really is just the freedom for guys to try and get themselves over unlike now where somebody gets over in a way that wasn't scripted or intended by Vince / the writers so they get actively punished for it.

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    It's all on the Network, @Smjffy .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smjffy View Post
    Where are you watching the WCW Nitro stuff, Mahow?
    It's on the WWE Network.

    They've got loads from all the promotions they've taken over along the years.

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    Nice of Corey to give away the end of the Tag match before it even started. In talking about how a triple threat tag match works he mentioned how 'Luke Gallows could, for example, pin Jimmy Uso and win the titles. Erm... Or vice versa'.

    Just happened to be the exact pinning combo.

    He also called Seth the Universal champion so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    PS. Has anyone ever watched CMLL before? I didnt have a clue what was going on the entire time, There seemed to be 3 rounds but they weren't time or pin based?
    It’s 2 out of 3 falls most of the time, but with a strange caveat. Most of the time there is a captain/team leader. If you pin/submit him then that counts as the first fall.

    However, if you instead pin or submit 1 of the other 2 members of the team you must pin or submit the other non-captain or the captain himself to pick up a fall. This is why often times you will see 2 simultaneous pin/submissions, because they need both those to get the first fall.

    Also, if you pin/submit the non-captain they can no longer be part of the round. Making it a 2 on 3 match, but only for the rest of the round. Once the next round starts, things are wiped clean and it goes back to 3 on 3.

    no wonder I didn't know what was happening

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    It was better than most episodes of Raw and had two properly solid matches and a few things nudged in the right direction but I think the positivity I saw was mostly just it not being its usual car crash.

    The Raw tag title change is a good news / bad news situation.

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    This Summerslam card is getting Wrestlemania-levels of no-build.

    Reigns / Bryan, Charlotte / Stratus and Ziggler / Goldberg () all added with bugger all time left.

    EDIT: Reigns / Bryan doesn't appear to be official yet, now I look again.

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    It's also Ziggler/Miz.

    Although it's been rumored that it will be scrapped or Goldberg replacing Miz. Lol.

    Wonder if Bill will knock himself silly pre-match again.

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    The headline I saw suggested Ziggler and Goldberg had actually been announced but it seems to be more Meltzer talk. So still a reasonable chance of a match that presumably literally nobody wants, or has ever wanted, to see.

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    This is a good yarn.


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    Harley Race passed away at 76. Hopefully they re-run the Ron Simmons racism angle in his honour.

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    Of course Yano gets the first singles win in NJ over Nambrose. This G1 has been ridiculous in the best way possible.

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    Click it to see the actual rankness.

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    It's not that bad. It's his inner thigh, not his bollocks.

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    I think I'm good not clicking it.

    Somebody describe it to me. Be my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I think I'm good not clicking it.

    Somebody describe it to me. Be my eyes.
    He has a hole in his left leg, just over halfway down on the inside of his thigh.

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    So in standard 'babyfaces are idiots' WWE writing Rollins wobbled down the ring to eat another beating from Bork without apparently having any plan for duffing him up other than hoping the chair he was using to lean on would be enough to give him the advantage.

    I can't imagine Bork losing the title this soon but it would be weird to bury Rollings this way just to have him lose. I don't really imagine any sort of shady finish either so I dunno what they're up to.

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    Hey's a Heyman guy. Heyman writes.

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    Hopefully it’s a sign Heyman isn’t going to subscribe to the “this guy looks good on RAW.. gets owned on PPV” formula that has made 90% of matches predictable as fuck for ages.

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    That would be a good thing to come out of it. Although he's not even laid a glove on him so it would be odd to have him be completely obliterated for the whole feud. We'll see.

    Raw has improved a bit since Heyman took charge.

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    Todays G1 action will involve Shingo / Ishii and Moxley / Goto.

    It's going to be a very meaty evening.

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    Tony Kahn would have the monies to start his own service surely?

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    Oh I don't imagine it'll affect AEW much beyond inconvenience.

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    FITE is a stupidly expensive app anyway. Have you used it?

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    No, the only thing I considered it for was the AEW stuff and then I saw the prices and had a good lol before dismissing the idea.

    I assume AEW's presence on it is Vince's sole motivation for this because he'd rather dedicate his resources to hindering opposition than just beating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    No, the only thing I considered it for was the AEW stuff and then I saw the prices and had a good lol before dismissing the idea.

    I assume AEW's presence on it is Vince's sole motivation for this because he'd rather dedicate his resources to hindering opposition than just beating it.
    Yeah this is classic Vince. It will only hurt the likes of ROH and the smaller indies who run free content.

    Fingers crossed he does himself serious damage with the XFL.

    Edit: MLW is worth a glance if you are looking for American content? Jacob Fatu who is Umaga's nephew is their champion and he is quality IMO.
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    MLW is fun from the little bits I've seen, there's not enough time to watch everything though. NJ is unmissable right now and I'm keeping tabs on NXT and would like to see a bit of Dragongate, there just isn't enough time for much else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    MLW is fun from the little bits I've seen, there's not enough time to watch everything though. NJ is unmissable right now and I'm keeping tabs on NXT and would like to see a bit of Dragongate, there just isn't enough time for much else.
    I can barely justify my current NJPW binge atm because it is on at Prime time. MLW, AEW and whatever indie match of the week is all I can manage without getting outed as a creep.

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    Am I putting the network back up with watch SummerSlam this year or nah?

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    I'd suggest no.

    Getting the Network for Takeover: Toronto though definitely.

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    I didn't realise it was this Sunday. I might get it - if only to see if Ziggler tops HBK's selling against Hogan in 2005.

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    I'm sure Takeover will deliver but this card looks as close to middling as I think they've had in a long time. I don't really need another Gargano / Cole 2/3 falls in my life though I'm sure it'll be decent, I'm not that into the Street Profits and as I'm starting to tire a little of Baszler's title run. Leaving the NA title match which is almost certainly going to be the match of the night and LeRae vs. Shirai which I'm just not especially invested in. On the plus side, unlike the main roster shows I imagine this will probably exceed my expectations.

    Summerslam may only end up with about two good matches. Bork / Rollins is gonna be a waste of everybody's time. Natalya is yawn. Bayley vs. Moon has had a crap build and will have no heat at all. Kofi vs. Keith should be at least alright but Keith barely moves these days if he can avoid it. Shane - lol, and the cunt will probably not get the obliterating he needs to get and they'll make KO look a plucky underdog. Wyatt has been feuding himself as Balor has barely been present. Goldberg / Ziggler is a match I'm not sure I could care less about. Stratus / Flair could be good but has also had a build that makes it difficult to care about and is probably going to need to be booked pretty carefully around Stratus.

    Leaving the US title match as the only one I'm going into thinking "Oh man, that should be good!" Which almost certainly means based on WWE's recent "dream match" form that it'll manage to be a disappointment.

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    I'm interested to see how Bray wrestles. I'm wondering if he'll end up with a Mankind/Dude Love style character.

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    He needs to do some different stuff in the ring, even if it's only the mannerisms and things that change. If THE FIEND just does the Bray Wyatt shtick then he's wasted his time.

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