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    When's your next flight?


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    Sorry mate I wouldn't venture outside Europe. Too tight.

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    The Kurds are committing war crimes. Ethnic nationalists in settling scores shocker. Wake up, lads.

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    There's Malware on the site I got it from so I'm just going to quote it.

    Saudi Clerics Call For Jihad Against Assad, Russia and Iran in Syria

    By Jack Moore 10/6/15 at 5:35 PM

    Russia opens door to bombing Iraq

    MiG-29 jet fighters of the Russian aerobatic team Strizhi (The Swifts) perform during the MAKS International Aviation and Space Salon in Zhukovsky outside Moscow, Russia, August 30. Russia began airstrikes against targets in Syria last week.Maxim Zmeyev/Reuters
    Dozens of Saudi Arabian clerics and academics released a statement on Monday, calling on the world's Sunni Muslims to "hurry" to Syria, to fight jihad against the Syrian government and its Russian and Iranian allies. They also called on Sunni governments to "give all moral, material, political and military" support to the effort to defeat the Syrian leader.

    Fifty-two Saudis issued the joint statement, demanding that all able-bodied Muslims from both Saudi Arabia and elsewhere, answer the call of jihad and fight alongside Sunni extremist groups in Syria against Assad's regime and the Iranian and Russian forces. Iran follows the Shiite strand of Islam and is competing for influence in the region with Sunni superpower Saudi Arabia.


    "This is a real war on Sunnis, their countries and their identities," said the statement. "The holy warriors of Syria are defending the whole Islamic nation. Trust them and support them... because if they are defeated, God forbid, it will be the turn of one Sunni country after another."

    The statement also issued a call for Syrian rebel fighters to "unify their front" against the Syrian regime and the foreign forces.
    The clerics who issued the joint statement are not affiliated with the Saudi Arabian government in Riyadh, Reuters reports, although the Saudi regime has been a key backer of the Syrian rebel groups fighting the insurgency against Assad.

    Russia confirmed last week that it had begun an airstrike campaign against militant group ISIS in Syria, although later admitted it was also targeting other opposition groups in the country. Iran, another key ally to Assad, has been steadily building up its military force in Syria in recent months, and reportedly deployed hundreds of troops last week to fight alongside the Syrian army, Lebanese sources told Reuters.

    The clerics' statement was released on the same day that 41 Syrian rebel groups issued an appeal to regional states to form a coalition, in order to defeat what they called "the Russian-Iranian alliance occupying Syria."
    The statement released by the rebel groups read: "Russia jumped in to rescue the Assad regime after it was clinically dead, in order to prevent it from suffering a sweeping defeat. Civilians have been directly targeted in a manner that reminds us of the scorched earth policy pursued by Russia in its past wars."


    The umbrella group of the Free Syrian Army (which is backed by the U.S.), the Islamist Ahrar al-Sham (The Free Men of Syria) group, and the Jaish al-Islam group that is part of the wider Islamic Front coalition fighting the Assad regime, all signed the joint statement. The U.S. does not currently list Ahrar al-Sham or Jaish al-Islam as terrorist organizations.

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    What a mess. The Chechens are Wahhabi aren't they? Could see a lot more of their attacks on Russia.

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    Oh I forgot to mention. It's from Newsweek so reliable, it wasn't malware so to say but you have to register for their site to see the article.

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    The Americans reckon they have killed twenty-thousand ISIS bods, but the group manages to replace them easily enough. Maybe the plan is to just keep this going forever and churn up the world's mentals.

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    Military-aged males they mean.

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    Seen quite a few of them being welcomed around Europe lately.

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    Turkey have shot down a drone, which the US reckons is Russian.

    As you were.

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    The reporter, Ayman Mohyeldin, is an Arab-American.

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    QE

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    That is a quite excellent hair piece.

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    Netanyahu's a clown. He's presumably still seething about the Iran deal despite his own security services roundly OKing it.

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    Netanyahu is a fanatic and a mass murderer. The negotiations that he takes part in are a sham.

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    I haven't yet seen any condemnation from Henry regarding the multiple Palestinian cunts stabbing people and then pretending they were 'just innocent children being executed'.

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    Most of the Palestinians killed in the unrest have in fact been innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Most of the Palestinians killed in the unrest have in fact been innocent.
    I have no idea if that's true or what you have to back it up, but the same (and probably more) could be said of Israelis.

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    Fuck sake didn't embed properly. Absolutely awesome Russian drone footage of fighting in Jobar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QE Harold Flair View Post
    I have no idea if that's true or what you have to back it up, but the same (and probably more) could be said of Israelis.
    Of course it could. It's almost as if demonising an entire people is a bit wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Of course it could. It's almost as if demonising an entire people is a bit wrong!
    It's almost as if nobody demonised an entire people. Don't you regularly demonise Tories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Fuck sake didn't embed properly. Absolutely awesome Russian drone footage of fighting in Jobar.
    You're a Live Leak nutter - did you watch that one yesterday of a drug gang torturing some sap? They cut his ear off and scooped an eyeball out. I didn't have the stomach for it.

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    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/...in-west-daraa/

    ISIS claim they have an Israeli pilot. If true, can't see it ending terribly well.

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    This is yet another lol at Saudi Arabia piece worth reading. It would be 'interesting' to see what happened if the whole region fell to bits. Beyond keeping the oil flowing, you would probably just have to call it quits and wish the Israelis luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Netanyahu is a fanatic and a mass murderer. The negotiations that he takes part in are a sham.
    Isn't that the same logic he uses to criticize the Iran deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    Isn't that the same logic he uses to criticize the Iran deal?
    Maybe; so what?

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    lol at 'Jihadi John'. I expect they will rush a greatest hits out before Christmas.

    I saw the other day that the Americans are against the Kurds 'developing some kind of semi-autonomous zone' in Syria (like the kind they enjoy in Iraq). Get on the phone, Assad, mate.

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    According to one report that I read, he was "evaporated".

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    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...ies-kerry-says

    That's positive - an agreement for:

    A ceasefire between the government and moderate groups.
    Elections and plans for a new constitution.
    Smashing the fuck out of ISIS.

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    That means Syria/Russia has got six months to kick the 'moderates' about a bit more.

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    The Russians outmanoeuvring the Americans again, I see.

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    It would be interesting to see China get properly involved (as one of the linked articles suggests). They could do with an excuse to project their power abroad and show what they're about, and what better excuse than something like this that nobody can object to?

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    Remember when GS said we should just get The West + everyone else in the world up against them and it'd be over within a month and I said it would take less than a month for one of them to bomb the other and have it go tits up?

    Turkey just shot down a Russian jet that Russia claims wasn't even in Turkish airspace.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-midd...e=news_central

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    It needs to be coordinated. No one sensible would advocate we all pile in and bomb each other, but it is quite clear that we could 'win' handily if we really wanted to.

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    Hopefully Russia take time out to lol at NATO meeting in a city completely locked-down because of ISIS. Anyway, this was the serious breach of Turkish airspace. Why bother?

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    GS is right in that we could mop this lot up with time to spare before Christmas. We won't, obviously.

    Putin is going mental here.

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    I see Putin has taken this well.

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    A US official is saying the incursion lasted seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Shearer The 2nd View Post
    A US official is saying the incursion lasted seconds.
    At max speed it would take them 8 seconds to fly across, but a more reasonable guess seems to be 20-30 seconds.

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    The State Department wheeled out some twat to answer questions about Turkey and about how it and its rebel friends have the right to defend themselves, and the following exchange happened:

    QUESTION: I’m trying – I mean, do you think that everybody has the right to defend themselves?

    MR TONER: We’ve said very clearly that people have the right to defend themselves.

    QUESTION: Right? Including the Assad regime?

    MR TONER: No.

    Mate.

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    The whole thing such a fucking clusterfuck. It'll end in world war 3.

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    Russia has banned Turkish poultry imports because of 'bacteria'. It's all going off.

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    'New'

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    The Turkish president has accused Moscow of slander for claiming they buy oil from ISIS as the fallout over the downed fighter jet continues to escalate with 39 Turkish businessmen deported from Russia.


    Bit harsh?

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    Not really, the US did the same over the plane the Russians shot down.

    That's a point, have the Russians forgot they shot down a passenger jet in a country, they weren't actually at war with, less than a year ago?

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