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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

    10 22.73%
  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

    1 2.27%
  • Satan's Sinn Fein

    0 0%
  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
  • I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman

    4 9.09%
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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    That sounds a bit Ted Heath. We're remaining.

    Also, how are the public supposed to 'get behind it' unless there is a deal/remain referendum?

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    She really needs to just fuck off.

    I appreciate that she DIDN'T WANT THIS and was FORCED INTO IT but she keeps making it worse.

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    Lib Dem Brexit spokesman Tom Brake notes that the prime minister's letter requesting an extension to Article 50 "wasn't even submitted in time".

    "The level of incompetence of this government is unparalleled," he says.


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    In terms of where this can go for more madness, wouldn't it be quite easy for dissident leavers to cause lots of those 10% recall by-elections (bye-elections?)

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    The public already got behind it. This Parliament needs to suck it up and do as they've been told the big bunch of cowards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    The public already got behind it. This Parliament needs to suck it up and do as they've been told the big bunch of cowards.
    The public got behind the idea and wanted it to be delivered, but it manifestly can't be delivered so we are where we are.

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    Having caught up on events I'd suggest the only way we're leaving is with a no deal Brexit, which may spook MP's into voting for a deal they hate but as the lesser of two evils.

    To be fair to her, she's actually played a blinder here.

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    What the public wanted and what is on the table is very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    What the public wanted and what is on the table is very different.
    I don't think "forrins out and untold riches for everyone" was ever going to get through from day one.

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    What's on the table can barely be called Brexit. Not that I actually want Brexit, but you know, if we're going to Brexit let's actually do it.

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    lol at that shit. If you can't govern, fuck off.

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    We need some DRAMA and a revocation. And she needs to go.

    DRAMA required urgently.

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    Maybe the lager lout has some more up his sleeve.

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    These lot are making a serious case for a return to the feudal system or the french revolution. I'll take either at this point.

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    This is all such a waste of time. She will lose MV3 and we will remain.

    Corbyn/Milne still playing for an accidental No Deal, which is adorable.

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    So they're going to agree to a short extension on the proviso MV3 doesn't go down with its sister vessels next week, but Big Bad Barry is going to eat that one as well (in the parlance of children's television), at which point a longer extension becomes necessary presumably? How does that work? May resigns and the Queen marches back in to take over and revoke Article 50 and/or the democratic process? At some point someone in this whole thing is going to follow through on a threat and it's going to fuck the whole process, because at the moment no one seems to be buying into this brinkmanship on any side.

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    Assuming that she does lose MV3 what would happen from there?

    Does the EU 180 and give us an extension anyway?

    I can't see revoking A50 getting through parliament either.

    It seems plausible that the EU decides that they've had enough of this shit show and we exit with no deal as parliament can't agree to do anything else.

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    Isn't revoking Article 50 an executive action?

    May goes, Jeremy Hunt takes over, suicide bombs the process for the good of the nation, becomes national hero.

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    Chris Grayling to step on one last landmine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Isn't revoking Article 50 an executive action?
    Could be, I'm not sure. But she's not going to do that surely?

    How long would it take to get the next Prime Minister in place to revoke it? Do we assume that any change in PM/Government/General Election/Referendum and the EU will agree to a delay in the hope it ends with us remaining?

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    If she loses MV3 then there are only three possible outcomes:

    1. She or another PM revokes A50 before Friday
    2. Nothing happens before Friday and we go out with no deal
    3. The EU agrees to a long extension (but with what conditions?)

    Parliamentary arithmetic makes 1 difficult and 2 impossible.

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    Isn’t 2 the default do nothing/vote against everything outcome?

    Which surely seems most likely at this point.

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    2 would need one of these conditions to be true:

    a) the PM (whether May or someone else) not to ask for a long extension
    b) the EU to refuse a longer extension

    b) would be needless self-harm on the EU's part, while a) would surely trigger some kind of reaction event in Parliament.

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    For a, May wants to leave, so she may not ask for it and if she doesn’t, what trigger event could there possibly be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Isn’t 2 the default do nothing/vote against everything outcome?

    Which surely seems most likely at this point.
    Yeah, we're gonna bumble our way into no deal the same way we (or David Cameron) bumbled ourselves into this mess.

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    MPs will have to vote for No Deal in some form for it to happen. If No Deal looks on the cards next week then somebody will put a revoke motion forward, and voting against that will be a vote for No Deal (this is in a no extension scenario).

    Also remember Bercow is an ultra remainer and working to that end.

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    Why?

    She's going to resign if/when MV III sinks.

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    She should do, but I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility that she will stay on amd switch to No Deal, bowing to the will of the people.

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    @Boydy, what's the thoughts up there in general on it all? From the small sample size of friends I have on messaging/social media/etc it is nearly down the middle as Unionists are all in on Leave because BRITAIN and Nationalists are all about remain because NOT BRITAIN. Have you seen many differing opinions from that?

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    Floyd regretting his vote, talking himself round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    @Boydy, what's the thoughts up there in general on it all? From the small sample size of friends I have on messaging/social media/etc it is nearly down the middle as Unionists are all in on Leave because BRITAIN and Nationalists are all about remain because NOT BRITAIN. Have you seen many differing opinions from that?
    Yeah, I don't think it's as clear cut along the community lines as that. My parents for instance who would always vote unionist of some sort voted remain and would rather stay in.

    Everyone at work's pro-remain but then we're all young liberal sorts anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Yeah, I don't think it's as clear cut along the community lines as that. My parents for instance who would always vote unionist of some sort voted remain and would rather stay in.

    Everyone at work's pro-remain but then we're all young liberal sorts anyway.
    Ah right, yeah I'd expect there to be an age split of sorts too. The sample I was talking about would all be around the same era. Wouldn't be any liberal types either among the lot, even the younger ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Floyd regretting his vote, talking himself round.
    I hadn't factored a Theresa May premiership into my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I hadn't factored a Theresa May premiership into my vote.
    Nobody would have done any better to be frank. We simply don't have the ability to see this through without no-dealing the fuck out of it.

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    Uri Geller has written to Theresa May saying he's going to telepathically stop Brexit so that's that.

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    If the spoons are anything to go by then he'll be stopping his own doctored Brexit that he's brought with him and not the one us poor cunts are having to endure all this faff about.

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    There's a patient I have looked after at work a few times who is very well known to the hospital. Given half decent social support they could probably live a relatively normal life. As it is I would put money on them being dead in the next two years. I would also put money on the fact it will cost more to provide the medical care they ends up having in those two years than it would to look after their social needs for the next 40 and avoid a lot of the medical costs.

    It's actually a fucking disgrace and it's all borne out of the fact there is seemingly nobody taking any kind of long-term or big picture view to how money is spent and the fact there are always so many cooks having input that nobody feels responsible for what happens to anyone.

    The case is genuinely heart-breaking to me. Almost everyone else just seems happy to say it's their own fault because their issues are the consequences of IVDU, but I'd suggest they may not have made the excellent choices they think they would if they'd lived this person's life.
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    Some Iranian Christian got their refugee status turned down with this as the reason:

    "You say in your application Jesus is your saviour, but then claim He wouldn’t be able to save you from the Iranian regime. It’s therefore considered you have no conviction in your faith and your belief in Jesus is half-hearted."

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    Evidence-based policy mate.

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    One step above 'Illegalimmigrantsayswhat'

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    I hate these twee cunts.

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    Fuck off and die.

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    That first one. That is the joke ('joke'), right, that it isn't? She can't just be an idiot.

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    I dunno, the FBPErs all seem to pride themselves on proper grammar and shit so I wouldn't be surprised if she's just an idiot.

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    Were there any placards at Farage's march? Bet there were some belters, if so.

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    There were only like 12 people so I'm not sure the variety would be there.

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    I'm not sure there were any people at it.

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    For all the piss taking it has attracted, a hundred people walking the length of the country is infinitely more impressive than a few hundred thousand fannies bussing down to London for a circle jerk.

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    Alright Hammer.

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