Horrible shooting in a mosque in New Zealand. Some videos on Twitter from the live stream which makes it look like some video game. 40 dead, 20 injured.
Horrendous.
Horrible shooting in a mosque in New Zealand. Some videos on Twitter from the live stream which makes it look like some video game. 40 dead, 20 injured.
Horrendous.
He is an Australian white supremacist who is a diciple of the right wing over here. His views are those of the Liberal Party and the Murdoch Media. They have been feeding the dogs for over a decade this isnt in anyway a shock just in the wrong country.
Last edited by Queenslander; 15-03-2019 at 07:43 AM.
Have you seen that statement by a Queensland senator (or is it an Australian senator for Queensland). Are they stuck in some kind of racist nightmare?
He got his Federal seat running under the One Nation Ticket. Then left because he was too racist for Pauline Hanson.
Im too dumb to be nuanced. But yes rural Queenalnd is completely fucked it is embarrasing.
White mate Fraser got in on 19 primary votes though the used to be a cluster fuck for preferential scams.
Yeah what an absolute arse.
Well he seems like a lovely fellow.
Attorney General of NSW has reminded everyone that sharing the livestream will get them 3 years in jail.
Myself and tens of thousands of other Australians will be visiting our local Mosques tomorrow which of course wont be on the news.
It does seem a little off to do a pun in the thread title for this, Keeks
What a tactless human you are, Kiko.
I'm guessing that Fraser cretin is going to be an FNQ'er.
Surely the actual problem with the New Zealand immigration system seems to have been letting some nutter Australian in.
Yeah, I'm not having him, although, without knowing how Australian senatorial elections work, I'd imagine he'd get quite a few votes from the Douglas-shire if they were allowed to vote for him.
That statement is merely the reverse of what you normally get from Palestinians and the like, so it's interesting to see it used in this context.
In disbelief here. We're usually very far away from this sort of thing.
I first heard there was a mass shooting as I came out of a work meeting around 3 pm. I had a quick look at the news in the cafe, and went back to work. Did not expect the casualty count to be anywhere near this high.Jacinda Ardern said it was 'one of New Zealand’s darkest days' and many of the victims had chosen to make New Zealand their home. 'They are us,' she said. 'The person who has perpetuated this violence against us is not ... There is no place in New Zealand for such acts of extreme and unprecedented violence.'
"You may have chosen us, but we utterly reject and condemn you."
To give a bit of context, we're a nation of barely 4.5 million. Half the size of London. There's not a lot of degrees of separation before we all know someone who was affected in this attack.
Last edited by hfswjyr; 15-03-2019 at 11:50 AM.
Felt sick when I heard about this this morning. New Zealand is about as distant as can be from the UK but to see an attack of this magnitude as we've seen in Europe, the US and around the world in such a peaceful, unassuming nation is just horrendous. Hope you've not personally been affected too badly, and/or those around you.
Absolutely fucking mental statement.
5th post in the thread.
22nd you numpty.
It takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. Evil will always exist in the world, only a tyrannical government would criminalize the exercise of basic civil liberties, and when it does, this is the end result. So very sad.
Those famous New Zealand tyrants.
It turns out that one of my colleagues used to run ballistics seminars for the Army, so I got a great talk on wounds and that today. Apparently, getting shot in the arse is not all it's cracked (arf) up to be, since you are surprisingly likely to end up with a colostomy bag or having your cock taken off, but you have a decent chance taking someone down if they only have a handgun. Good to know.
Absolute insanity.
Oh and here's another psychopath who thinks... I'm not sure? That he should have applied for a permit to shoot muslims?
Turkish Delight using this as an excuse to promote the NRA is almost as laughable as that statement that insane senator put out
Also, I have a theory that 4chan and all its spin-offs are the source of most of the evil in the western world
For clarity, That’s 8chan. It was formed after 4chan banned child porn.
Only a matter of time before some complete nutjob streamed himself doing this. The media have continually given oxygen to mass shooters and terrorists by plastering their images and 'manifestos' all over their coverage of events.
Truly fucked up shit.
You could literally download this guys manifesto from the Daily Mail embed which was a new low.
I'm all in favour of restrictions on the press during times of this delicate nature. Pity they'd never be able to push those through.
I’m a journalist who has previously worked in national newsrooms and national online newsdesks (I now work in trade press) and I can honestly say, 1. I am so glad I haven’t set foot in one for a good three years or so as the escalation in what desks will publish (and I don’t mean journos coming up to them and saying ‘boss, I’ve sourced this, what do you think?’, I mean the editors demanding reports skim social media, Liveleak, etc, for this snuff) has been extraordinary, and 2. I never had to / did do anything of the sort. I think the worst I ever had to do was around the time Isis was chopping off heads right, left and centre and I had to go trawling through some of that.
I don’t have the stomach for it, not the desire on any level to be responsible for it being broadcast. But some younger reporters, 20-21, will be doing this as their first ever jobs in journalism. Mock me all you want, but PTSD / equivalents is going to be a massive issue for my generation of journalists who have experienced the most brutal atrocities second hand. And that’s obviously not to diminish what war correspondents in the field see and experience. But spending an 8-9 hour shift tracking down, watching and editing such footage while doing the basics like interviewing eyewitnesses and victims is harrowing and deeply troubling. I simply couldn’t stomach it and backed away long before I got sucked in any deeper.
I mean, the Mail had gifs of the shooter’s video running on its homepage. It’s depraved.
I skipped through the video. He/they have clearly positioned the camera so that it looks like he's in a first person shooter game. The resemblance is absolutely freakish. It will absolutely inspire copycats.
You stick a camera on your head while holding a gun and that’s what it’s going to look like unfortunately.
One thing is for sure, today has heralded the end of missions like ‘No Russian’ in mainstream video games.
Well he stuck a camera on his head and it does look like a video game, so get back in your box.
I saw it completely by accident this morning (checking twitter bleary eyed at 6.45am not even knowing the atrocity had happened) and I can confirm it looked like a video game.
I've always found the dominance of violence as a topic of video games slightly weird but no doubt someone can tell me why that is the case.
It's a contrivance more than anything. I want to dig into more about why designers opt for it but I guess it's an easy option to put the player into a 'good fight' or something. Film predates the medium so, in some respects, they follow the popular action memes of cinema.
When your salary relies on per thousand clicks rather than thousands 'read' your priorities change very quickly. Newspaper subscriptions sold adverts based on the analog version of impressions and now have to sell based on the equivalent of the number of people who call Mystic Megs phoneline.
Few go into it to behave like that, if any. The pressures from above and the constant feeling like your on a burning rope ladder though quickly turn your head though. If you don't do it, someone else will. And it only needs one or two to get promoted up the chain every 2-3 years to fill the boss roles. Believe me, there is absolutely no shortage of candidates out there willing to do this, even if they might initially not know what they're getting themselves in for.
And yes, it's part addiction, it's part knowing you'll just be ditched (and journalism is very clique'y meaning word will spread about your actions). If you get ditched by one of the big online newsdesks, all the other ones will know. And once you're a little further up the chain, there are enormous business pressures for clicks/eyeballs.
How was he apprehended?