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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

    10 22.73%
  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

    1 2.27%
  • Satan's Sinn Fein

    0 0%
  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Also, can someone translate this into English for me?

    The three line whip is one of the strongest instructions the party can issue to its own MPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Three line whip is when the party tries to compel its own members to vote a certain way, although they seem to have issued this about 20 seconds before the vote so who knows how effective it will be.
    Ah yes. I've heard them on about that but hadn't matched the term up.

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    Here's Nige

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    You do wonder about the thought processes of the no no deal people. They should ask for Jeremy Corbyn as a human sacrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    The three line whip is one of the strongest instructions the party can issue to its own MPs.
    While I do know this I still don't understand what the difference between the three line whip and the whip is. I've now said/read whip so many times in 2 minutes that it's lost all meaning anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Speaking of Elections. That idea to have one was a fucking absolute brain box of an idea wasn't it?
    Managing to reduce your majority in that climate might be one the greatest political feats in modern history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    While I do know this I still don't understand what the difference between the three line whip and the whip is. I've now said/read whip so many times in 2 minutes that it's lost all meaning anyway.
    In classic British parliamentary custom it's named after the number times it's been underlined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Managing to reduce your majority in that climate might be one the greatest political feats in modern history.
    Once this is all over and we can look back and laugh I'm getting this framed and put up in the toilet.



    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    In classic British parliamentary custom it's named after the number times it's been underlined.

    Oh that clears it up... when what is underlined three times? I thought the whip was just a bloke who goes round offering peerages/career assassinations (depending on the MP) to get them to vote your way.

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    Similarly, God bless Gina Miller for taking it out of the government's hands.

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    The referendum had to happen. This stuff couldn't bubble under the surface forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The referendum had to happen. This stuff couldn't bubble under the surface forever.
    Yes but not when it's called by the incumbent party who everyone hates, using it as a get out the vote tactic on the presumption of having another hung parliament and getting to blame the Lib Dems for it not happening. It's classic Cameron, being openly smarmy about how smart you are and then getting kicked in the dick for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Yes but not when it's called by the incumbent party who everyone hates, using it as a get out the vote tactic on the presumption of having another hung parliament and getting to blame the Lib Dems for it not happening.

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    Can we just revoke the fucking article and pretend none of this massive time waste ever happened? Get Mogg and Farage into a boeing 737 max and let them go wherever they want.

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    Why are we wasting time with today's vote? Why not just make yesterdays vote 'do you wish to delay Brexit to avoid leaving without a deal?'?

    It should not have taken 3 days of rehashing the same arguments to arrive at 'we don't want your deal, we don't want no deal, we need more time'.

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    Moar votes etc.

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    What this has demonstrated is that most MPs exist to be on telly. We should ban all outgoing people from taking office again.

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    It's an exercise in reminding everyone how important you definitely are. McDonnell was on the radio this morning essentially admitting that they didn't like the deal because they weren't sufficiently consulted on it.

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    McDonnell looked like he seriously lost his place in the notes when he was replying to Spreadsheet yesterday. Proper doddery blithering.

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    Don't worry we've got smart people like this guy who wants a GPS tracker in every knife in the UK on the job.


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    'Excellent, that lad who got stabbed? We've narrowed the number of suspects to six figures.'

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    Fishing with a knife?

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    We'd never lose randomlegend.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Fishing with a knife?
    Betas do it. Real men catch fish with their bare hands.

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    I reckon the only way to break this deadlock is for the Tories to dump May, replace her with whoever and then the new leader has to do a massive heel turn and revoke, supported by all the opposition parties and just enough Tories. This fucks their career but saves the nation.

    Gove the ideal candidate for this two-week premiership.

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    Jeremy Hunt.

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    It doesn't do anything other than kill the Conservative Party, which can only survive as a Brexit vehicle in the Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party sense.

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    Someone explain what's gone on after they've finally finished the 50 or so votes they're doing. I've never watched a more complicated TV show.

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    I don't even know now, I was doing well last night but they've lost me today.

    MPs have voted against the Labour Party's frontbench amendment, which rejects the prime minister's deal, no-deal and calls for an extension of Article 50 to allow time to find a different approach, by 318 votes to 302 - a majority of 16.
    What the actual fuck have they voted for then? Are they just going to keep saying no to things until global warming makes the tide come in?

    Also the tigger amendment for a people's vote was fucking stupid politics.

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    So there's no deal, no no deal, and no extension?

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    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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    Wait, it has been delayed. Bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mert View Post
    Wait, it has been delayed. Bollocks.
    Was it? I thought that was the 318-302 Jimmy mentioned above, though it's easy to lose track.

    Have they voted on what takeaway to order in yet?

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    Nope, yes (to delay) won by 200 odd votes. Jimmy's either on the piss or on the wind up.

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    Wait now they're saying something about it being delayed "if the PM's deal is approved". What deal? The one she's lost votes on twice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Wait now they're saying something about it being delayed "if the PM's deal is approved". What deal? The one she's lost votes on twice?
    If her deal is approved then why delay at all?

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    Like all good sagas, her deal is coming back for a third instalment next week.

    This was for a small technical delay (months) to implement that when it gets approved.

    Arf.

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    The EU then says, we'll see your three months and raise you 2 years, and then, well, who knows.

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    They've rejected every feasible solution and approved a non-specific delay.

    Now they have to see if they can hold a third meaningful vote on Tuesday (I fail to see how this will be any different to the previous ones).

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    They're going to underline it 4 times.

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    I think the plan is to scare enough Brexiteers into voting for May's deal by saying 'you either vote my deal and Brexit happens in June or reject it and Brexit gets delayed indefinitely'

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    Take the delay and just grind the government to a halt.

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    The ERG's best bet at this point is having a second referendum and winning it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Take the delay and just grind the government to a halt.
    Not sure we need a delay for that to happen, government is basically non-existent at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The ERG's best bet at this point is having a second referendum and winning it again.
    Would the deal get any better though? It'd basically amount to a year delay and be right back where we are.

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    There should be a campaign to boycott any second referendum, and Brexiting should become a movement (whether through the Conservative Party or a new party) to do so properly whilst also smashing up and/or de-funding every cunt institution that sought to prevent it. They will have had their chance to do it peacefully.

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    Alright, Christine Hamilton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I reckon the only way to break this deadlock is for the Tories to dump May, replace her with whoever and then the new leader has to do a massive heel turn and revoke, supported by all the opposition parties and just enough Tories. This fucks their career but saves the nation.

    Gove the ideal candidate for this two-week premiership.
    She's going anyway. May can revoke, survive another vote of no confidence and then bow out at the end of term.

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    This is hilarious now and the EU really should tell us to fuck off and stop wasting everybody’s time.

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    I have no idea what the end goal is here. I mean I get May's, bless her, but the rest of them are baffling. This is an exercise in self-destruction at this point. Actually, it's worse than that, because self-destruction would require taking some kind of fucking action. What we have at present is a majority of politicians stamping their feet and saying no to everything that's asked.

    My 3 year old does this too.

    Do you want Lasagna for dinner?
    No!
    Fish Pie?
    No!
    Spaghetti bolognese?
    No!
    A repeated referendum?
    No!
    Quiche?
    No!
    No Deal Brexit?
    No!
    Fish fingers?
    No!

    Eventually Peppa Pig and Macaroni Cheese wins out. It's worth a try.

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    I know this is going to sound like a fundamental misunderstanding of the show's premise but Peppa Pig is a fucking cow.

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