I'm cancelling the summit. But call me if you change your mind about having the summit!
I'm cancelling the summit. But call me if you change your mind about having the summit!
So random to throw in how our nuclear arsenal is so powerful or what have you lol
"Listen, we could blow you off the face of the Earth, but call me if you wanna meet up for drinks xx"
It is weird because they are half playing this domestically like Kim walked. Three Republican Senators said that during today’s meeting with Pompeo. You’d think they’d just pile in on “look how tough I am.”Originally Posted by Henry
I'm cancelling the summit. But call me if you change your mind about having the summit!
Apparently, the advance team in Singapore never once managed to get their NorKo opposites on the phone. Whoever told Trump about military challenge coins really needs deporting as well.
I don't get involved with politics but trump giving jack johnson a pardon is super cool
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44244687
Sounds like a fucking circus. "Here's a nice gesture with some celebrities packed in the oval office."
This has to be the single worst story of the Trump administration. If immigrants are being arrested or deported for illegally entering the country, fine. I donÂ’t agree, but it is within the realm of normalcy. But a punishment of taking their children and then losing where youÂ’ve placed them so they will likely never find them again is monstrous.
https://amp.azcentral.com/amp/631627...mpression=true
America is such a shit country.
Rand.
He's bang on there.
There's outsider and then there's 'Self-confessed paedophile'
Not a single fuck.
Isn't Trump snubbed by the guy and not the other way around?
Yeah, but...
Yeah even I can see that but let's not let it get in the way of a narrative.
I would have thought the out-and-open-about-it-paedo who abused his wife to the point she committed suicide story would have gained more traction tbh.
Is the US North Korea thing an example of people refusing to give Trump credit because he's Trump, or should he actually get little to no credit?
The meeting on its own is no achievement, it just gives NK a summit with the US to brag about. It elevates them while getting nothing done. If something substantive comes out of it then fair play.
They signed a piece of paper even Neville Chamberlain wouldn't be showing off.
It's not even made-up...“As an example, they have great beaches. You see that whenever they’re exploding their cannons into the ocean. I said, ‘Boy, look at that view. Wouldn’t that make a great condo?’ You could have the best hotels in the world right there. Think of it from a real estate perspective."
He gets credit for any material changes. There is no real evidence we were ever in danger of war. That hasn’t changed. We just used to worry about it. Kim now has the propaganda to cement any internal succession issues he may have had. There does not appear to be any denuclearization efforts beyond “intentions”, but they were never on the table. However, Trump is already it as a complete denuclearization. Which is bad because we all need to learn to live with a nuclear North Korea.
But there were never going to be any real changes because Trump, like Kim, only sees US interests in terms of his own regime’s stability. This was only ever about signing something / anything for a photo op with praise for how great they both are.
3 days behind the news cycle. Very low Energy. Sad!
Donned him there.
I hate Trump as much as the next person, however, I really don't get the excessive criticism here. He has signed Kim Jung-un into an agreement that;
1.The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.–DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
2.The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
3.Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
4.The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.
It's not perfect, but it's better than sitting around doing absolutely nothing.
Why did something need to be done? Did I miss a nuclear war or some actual military engagement in Korea in the last sixty odd years? The threat is massively overblown. Norko leaders have been promising our imminent destruction and we have been promising to end their regime for long time. Everyone has always been constrained by the simple fact that there are no military solutions that either side judges are worth the cost.
Nothing about the summit changes any of that.
If he would have gone with the purpose of making us all comfortable with the fact that North Korea has nukes and we shouldnÂ’t freak about it, fine. But doing something isnÂ’t always better, it just sets up a new level of uncertainty. For example, how are Iran, Isreal, and Saudi going to respond? If having nukes legitimizes you, doesnÂ’t that up the chance of the fledgling Isreal-Saudi alliance preemptively attacking Iran while they still can?
Why did something need to be done? Because N.Korea is a isolated state (bar some shifty arrangements with China, Russia and Iran) and a lot of their population are starving to death.
From a US military point of view - perhaps this doesn't solve that much - although I think point 3 (reaffirming denuclearisation) is a fairly substantial point.
The bottom line is that having an open dialogue with North Korea has to be a positive - particularly if the alternative is name calling on twitter whilst the Korean people continue to starve to death.
They could always have changed the things that isolates and starves them.
If we denuclearize the peninsula and in turn get (most of) our troops out of South Korea that would apparently save the US hundreds of millions of dollars.
On top of that, wouldn't normalizing relations with NK ease potential/existing sanctions, lift trade embargos, and therefore bring prosperity to their nation as a whole?
Serious question.
The existing sanctions don't actually do much to harm their 'prosperity', in that the countries they're willing to trade with are ones who don't give a toss about the sanctions and they don't have much to trade anyway. They have limited mineral mining operations.
To be fair, the North Koreans aren't starving anymore - that was like 20 years ago.
Talking about denuclearizing the peninsula is lol. As if that's going to happen. What's making you think that's even on the cards?
Trusting North Korea to get rid of their weapons is the best idea since allowing Iran to have nuclear ‘power stations’. Or trusting Syria to get rid of the chemical weapons. Or.... you get the point.
Ya for what it's worth I don't think any of it will actually happen and this is basically all just an elaborate circle jerk.
The most lol thing about the build up was Trump's smiley photo with a big letter that some North Korean delegate had given him. He told the press that it was a lovely letter and that they'd be surprised by what was in there, before telling the same reporters one minute later that he hadn't opened it yet.
He's very entertaining, but fuck knows how he continually gets away with that level of brazen bullshitting.
Probably because meanwhile a lot of dodgy laws and bills are being passed in the background without getting much notice. Like the TPS cancellation.
1) The base loves to 'own the libs'
2) The donors get everything they want because Trump doesn't give a shit about policy just optics and getting credit for stuff
3) The republican party are flooding the courts with lifetime appointments of Conservative judges.
I am 100% sure that he made this up, forgot he made it up and now believes this happened.
The Donald nailed his (piss stained) colours to the mast today: https://www.axios.com/trump-putin-ru...018c87bd2.html
Jesus fucking christ.
I think this is all driven by Vlad having shit on him. He needs to be impeached sharpish.
It was weird seeing Putin interviewed. I'm so used to thinking of him as a cartoon villain (which to some degree he is) that I forgot that he's also a pretty switched-on operator.
He didn't seem not-evil, but he dealt with the lines of questioning pretty well, all told.
Trump, on the other hand, just continues to seem a bit stupid. It's baffling.
Trump seems pretty untouchable at this point. There is seemingly nothing that will stick and nothing that will convince his mongoloid supporters that he is anything but the second coming.
There's one. If a video circulates of him engaging in gay sex, he'd be done.
Vinnie Mac up to the balls in Trump is the dream.
His base would claim it’s fake, easy out.
"This tweet timeline proves it wasn't him."
"I meant to say wouldn't not would"
What a fucking retard.
Trump will not be impeached while Republicans control the process. Imagine the ads showing people being sycophants and then saying he is a danger to the country. That looks like personal political suicide especially if the base stays. The base did not desert Nixon until the end.
What is more interesting is what a tipping point may be with what is left of the Republican base. Is this it because it is all against the tough guy who gets the best deal persona and just looks weak and pathetic? The Slow Burn podcast on Watergate is a fantastic listen In terms of “How do you know if you you are living in a tipping point?”
The common view among Democrat-aligned people seems increasingly to be that Trump is an actual Russian agent.
That's fucking insane. He's just stupid. If he was, he'd have blurted it out by now.
Yeah, but then they would have to confront getting donned all over the shop by an idiot, so it's easier to come up with Russia stuff (see also: Brexit).
The Times put out a cool precinct level map of the US. It is a good test to see how well you actually know the demographics of were you live(d). What are the little bits of out of place red or blue.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...111.903/123567
The article that goes with it is interesting as well. They point out some really cool features. The map of Minneapolis was fascinating.
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