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Thread: The Summer Transfer Thread [17 May - 9 August]

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    There was a good video someone posted quite recently, explaining modern transfers and how man utd made profit on dire maria after just one season.

    Excellent


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    That's all well and good, but at the end of the day they still aren't making an actual profit on these players (I mean the money still has to be paid in full at some point). So, while it gives clubs some leeway to play around with re: FFP, given that teams basically spend a shitload of transfers every transfer window, pushing around when to account for what shouldn't end up mattering that much in the long run anyway, right?

    Disclaimer: I've no real clue how this all works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    They could probably recover something like eighty million for Dembele if a wealthy club got involved (and didn't have to do it as one of those scam loan arrangements), which, since most of his add-ons won't have been met yet, wouldn't be the worst bit of business (once everyone forgets it like Dire Maria).
    Like who though? Barcelona aren't in a strong position if they want rid of him, and that is paramount in inflating fees. It's why they paid so much in the first place.

    If you believe the leaked details of his transfer it was €105m plus up to €40m of add-ons (of which 'only' €5m have been met as they've won the league) - so they're in for €110m if he never plays for them again. I think they'll be lucky to see half of that back in actual cash (and not the much heralded add-ons). They need someone to lose a big name player for a lot of money to exploit . . .

    As you said, I'm sure Barcelona 'owe' Liverpool a fuckton of cash from the Coutinho deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    Stop it. We care. You cannot deny he looks like an outstanding player. Only time will tell if he ends up like Ronaldinho or Robinho.
    Which of those two had a shorter peak?

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    I wasn't aware Robinho had a peak. Was that at Santos?

    Diego.

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    Ronaldinho reached the mountain top. Robinho didnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Like who though? Barcelona aren't in a strong position if they want rid of him, and that is paramount in inflating fees. It's why they paid so much in the first place.

    If you believe the leaked details of his transfer it was €105m plus up to €40m of add-ons (of which 'only' €5m have been met as they've won the league) - so they're in for €110m if he never plays for them again. I think they'll be lucky to see half of that back in actual cash (and not the much heralded add-ons). They need someone to lose a big name player for a lot of money to exploit . . .

    As you said, I'm sure Barcelona 'owe' Liverpool a fuckton of cash from the Coutinho deal.
    United would be the obvious candidate (especially if Anthony Martial goes), but others would emerge if there was a genuine possibility of him leaving.

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    Justin Kluivert listing Ajax trying to sell him to Tottenham in his airing of grievances is pretty lol. United are supposedly interested, so watch out for him being MIND GAMED into tracking back with off-hand references to his old man killing someone.

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    Who is this Nabil Fekir chap and is he any good? I see he's in the France World Cup squad.

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    Is that the guy who plays for Marseille? Left-footed midfield who is like a poor French version of Isco.

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    No.

    Plays for Lyon.

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    Given the options available, France have managed to select a fair amount of wank, but I suppose you need that balanced squad.

    Denmark could be sneaky decent I reckon. Meanwhile, Essam El-Hadary still being in goal for Egypt is truly inspirational stuff.

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    The 32 trophies he has won during his time at Barcelona.


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    No UEFA cup? Shit career.

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    I bet he'd trade it all for a full head of hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Who is this Nabil Fekir chap and is he any good? I see he's in the France World Cup squad.
    Fair play to Klopp for getting business done early.

    It said on French TV the deal is 90% done, apparently. Lemar will be fuming.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Fair play to Klopp for getting business done early.

    It said on French TV the deal is 90% done, apparently. Lemar will be fuming.
    Sometimes it's not about.

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    Leicester have signed Ricardo Pereira from Porto. Seems like a good player for them.

    I'm not too sure on Fekir. Although I've massively doubted our last 2 big attacking signings in Mane and Salah and they have proved me very wrong. I'm not even sure Klopp has made a bad signing yet.

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    Here are his signings:

    Marko Grujic - Who?
    Joel Matip - Playing with Lovren didn't help him
    Loris Karius - Started to look better recently but he started off shit
    Sadio Mane - Whatever
    Ragnar Klavan - I've always seen him as a bit of a bomb scare
    Alex Manninger - Was only brought in as a third choice
    Georgino Wijnaldum - I've never noticed him when he isn't scoring
    Mo Salah - Whatever
    Dominic Solanke - Looks trash but it's too early to really tell
    Andy Robertson - Seems like a fine left back
    Alex Oxlade-Chamberpot - Not sure why he was bought but seemed to finally start fitting in before the injury
    Virgil Van Dijk - Fine

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    I've been well impressed with Virgil van Dijk since they signed him. I wondered whether he was another Southampton semi-FRAUD, but it turns out he's probably the best defender in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Here are his signings:
    Mo Salah - Whatever


    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post


    lol
    Because nothing needs to be said (same with Mane), they're clear wins for him.

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    It just seemed to read like a bit of a seethe.

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    I don't care enough about the sport anymore to seethe.


    I'm more of an American Football fan now.

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    You're a disgrace.

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    You've only just realised?

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    I think the 2009 Champions' League final was the last sport I SEETHED over.

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    Talisca to United. Never even heard of him.

    He has been nicknamed "Yaya Talisca" in reference to Ivorian midfielder Yaya Touré, but bases his game on that of his compatriot Neymar. He has also been compared to fellow Brazilian Rivaldo.
    lol

    Also Fellaini has packed his bags and moved out of his United house. Those Liverpool rumours from a few months ago better be lies!
    I'm a twit

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    There's been some confusion there when Fergie's demanded a bottle of Talisker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Talisca to United. Never even heard of him.

    lol

    Also Fellaini has packed his bags and moved out of his United house. Those Liverpool rumours from a few months ago better be lies!
    There were rumours of him joining wolves, but that was never going to happen.

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    I'm not sure Talisca will be able to replace Fellaini.

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    I think he was a right-sided attacker (the cutting inside type) on the YouTube compilation I watched whenever his name last came up (January?). He looks like he has lots of Goals, Skills & Assists to contribute, so this is a great signing.

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    He was very good for Benfica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I think he was a right-sided attacker (the cutting inside type) on the YouTube compilation I watched whenever his name last came up (January?). He looks like he has lots of Goals, Skills & Assists to contribute, so this is a great signing.
    You mean United FINALLY have a right winger?
    I'm a twit

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    I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    He was very good for Benfica.
    So good they loaned him out?

    Alarm bells.

    We seem to be linked with him again but I reckon he'll go to Wolves.

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    Let's get Dire Maria back, I miss seething at his shitness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    So good they loaned him out?

    Alarm bells.

    We seem to be linked with him again but I reckon he'll go to Wolves.
    Lol at a player being linked with wolves and man utd. Power has shifted 100%. Man Utd are a sinking vessel.

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    Champions League final MOTM Angel Di Maria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Champions League final MOTM Angel Di Maria?
    Even crap players can have a good game now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I've been well impressed with Virgil van Dijk since they signed him. I wondered whether he was another Southampton semi-FRAUD, but it turns out he's probably the best defender in the league.
    He is quality. Him and Alderwierld are the best in the league, although we don't have any real standout super star defenders at the moment.

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    It has proven a great defence against the old Lubyanka tea party.

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    Talisca sounds extremely underwhelming. Reddit seems to think he's a youtube compilation player and pretty shit.

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    I don't think I've seen worse discussion of football than reddit. It's like every RAWK-esque forum for every team blended into one.

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    IDK, it's often quite useful for opinions on players (especially if they are from more obscure leagues) since there are people on there who actually watch them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    So good they loaned him out?

    Alarm bells.

    We seem to be linked with him again but I reckon he'll go to Wolves.
    I'm sure there was an amazing bit of cash involved for Benfica to loan rather than sell. I don't think he's the answer to any of the problems we have as talented as he is.

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    Reddit is one of the better places, R/fantasyPL is one of the best FPL forums available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I don't think I've seen worse discussion of football than reddit. It's like every RAWK-esque forum for every team blended into one.
    That's Reddit all over. It's absolute vomit.

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    Tbh, phonics is the worst at football discussion i’ve ever seen.

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