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    So Battlestar... I watched the mini series which was very good but the turn at the end made me realize where this could go very quickly.

    I don't think 4 seasons of 'You're a cylon, no you're the cylon' will be great. I'm already sick of the relationship between the one in the red dress and the genius.

    I'll watch season 1 and decide whether to go from there.

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    The first two series are definitely better than the last two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    The first two series are definitely better than the last two.
    Perhaps on the whole (I can't remember the exact timeline of everything now) but, for me, the absolute pinnacle of the entire show was:

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    Which I think was early season three?

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    I forget, it's possible the last series has simply coloured my view of the third as well (the boxing episode is in there somewhere and that's great). Phonics you should at some point also watch the feature length thing they did from the Cylon perspective (The Plan?) that's pretty good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Perhaps on the whole (I can't remember the exact timeline of everything now) but, for me, the absolute pinnacle of the entire show was:

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    Which I think was early season three?
    Yeah, that run of episodes has some of the most impressive television I've seen.

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    Has anyone bothered to watch the ITV drama 'Fearless'?

    It had a terrific cast and what appeared to be a fairly low rent and intriguing murder mystery. Then it turned out it was trying to address fifty thousand real world scandals at once, with an underage sex ring being linked to the onset of the Iraq war by a lawyer with links to ISIS who's under surveillance by the Americans using extra legal means.

    What a load of shit it turned out to be. How that got made I do not fucking know.

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    I'm most of the way through Battlestar now (just before the two parter) specifically...

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    And I don't think I'm going to make it past this season. I thought modern TV shows had some old filler but this stuff going down on Caprica... I get that it's trying to talk about the whole 'What makes a man vs a machine' but everything is so heavy handed I feel like they're hitting me with a pipe wrench over and over and over again.

    Back to The Shield.

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    Have you not watched The Shield about six times?

    The Game of Thrones lads' next project is going to be a speculative fiction about what would have happened if the South won and seceded, and in the modern day slavery was big business. They're going to get protested to death.

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    If it means set piece Dixie Land renditions, I'm watching.

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    If they're to avoid getting their addresses given out by Spike Lee they'll have to make every slave so obviously the best human being ever, and everyone even vaguely connected with the companies using them such a villainous caricature that it'll barely be worth watching.

    I didn't realise how little those two had done outside of Game of Thrones until checking their CVs for any past work that might help them out. Weiss has done Game of Thrones and one episode of Always Sunny, and Game of Thrones came first. What a fucking break he's got there.

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    They could divorce that enough from reality that they should be fine.

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    How did Game of Thrones become so big anyway? The books weren't all that popular (outside of fantasy circles), were they? Did it start with a lot of fuss?

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    By being really good and having a huge HBO marketing push behind it.

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    Can't link it right now, but the new Stranger Things-trailer.

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    Indeed.

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    The new Walking Dead one looks pretty good too. Hopefully Negan beats the shit out of the priest idiot.

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    I like that new Star Trek trailer, didn't realise it's so far away though.

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    Good few light years away anyway.

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    Second episode in a row of new Twin Peaks that wasn't particularly great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    Good few light years away anyway.
    Or September.

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    Anyone watch Suits? I've just finished series two and feel like there was a whole chunk missing from the episode, which has left me a bit confused...

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    Suits is absolute gibberish, so I wouldn't pay much attention to the "story". It's just loads of attractive people mooching about being sassy.

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    Twin Peaks.

    The end of season two was an abomination. I'd have been soooo angry if I'd watched it in 1992.

    Two episodes into season three and it seems turd. Sometimes it got zany and overly weird but at least it was fun and lighthearted. However season three is turgid tryhard seriousness. So so shit. Will persevere with it so hopefully it gets good, cos I absolutely loved the old ones, until the final episode.
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    Everything from about episode nine of the second season was pure bilge. I haven't watched any of the new stuff, but you're the first person I've seen being completely unimpressed with the early episodes.

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    I watched the latest episode of season 3 last night and it's rapidly losing me.

    It's still very watchable, but it just isn't going anywhere, which you expect from Lynch stuff and that's fine if what you're watching is interesting, but, and this is the real problem, it just isn't particularly.

    The new characters aren't a patch on the old and there are far too many of them, so little of it is set in Twin Peaks (seriously, almost none of it), so it's lost that mystique and there are times when it feels like you could be watching any old show (particularly when stalwarts of the American networks keep turning up) and we're now 11 episodes in and a story arc that should have lasted 8 episodes as an absolute maximum is showing no signs of stopping, to the point where it clearly won't.

    There are other problems, but those are the main ones that spring to mind.

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    A character was imprisoned inside the doorknob on a chest of drawers for about six episodes in the second half of season two, has it gotten that bad?

    I think people forget just how terrible it got in season two because most of the really iconic stuff also happened that year, but it was functionally two different seasons in one.

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    Five episodes in now. Jesus Christ is fucking SHITE.
    I'm a twit

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    Just finished GLOW and loved it

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    Yeah, I enjoyed that. The lead dude (Marc Maron is apparently his name) was really good, and likeable.

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    For me, only Bojack and Master of None are funnier Netflix original shows.

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    I've been watching a lot of Bates Motel recently. It starts out as nothing particularly special but it really grows as it goes along. It's got a couple of fantastic, really talented leads playing Norma and Norman too. Plus, it has that perfect, forty minute, ".....I'll just watch another one" episode length.

    I've made it into season four in the space of a couple of weeks.

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    I haven't seen Seinfeld all the way through before.

    I've watched a few seasons but always seemed to move onto something else so decided to give it a go as I've a few days to myself.

    It really is good, I love that whole late 80's NYC vibe. Crazy to think Friends started while that was still going, they seem a few decades apart by the end of friends.

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    I've tried that a few times but can never get past the fact that Seinfeld himself just can't act.

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    I quite like him in it. Tbh in things like sitcoms that's never really something I think about for some reason.

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    Speechless, a comedy about the family of a kid with Cerebral Palsy, is really good.

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    Seinfeld is tragic but his stand up is ok.

    Started watching Broadchurch. What a great show.

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    Did Broadchurch improve again as it went along? Loved the first series, gave up on the second about three episodes in.

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    Was actually relieved we couldn't watch any Twin Peaks tonight. You know it's dogshit when you'd rather go to parentcraft classes.

    Gotta persevere and finish it off though, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Did Broadchurch improve again as it went along? Loved the first series, gave up on the second about three episodes in.
    The third was really good. I didn't bother with the second at all after the adverts made it look like a courtroom drama, and what little I missed with impact on the third could be easily worked out from context as it went on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Did Broadchurch improve again as it went along? Loved the first series, gave up on the second about three episodes in.
    Ah man. Loving season 1.

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    Season 1 is absolutely superb, you'll have no regrets there. Enough people obviously enjoyed 2 to get another done but maybe I'll give 3 a go.

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    I watched 1 and 2 back to back so I can't really remember what happens in which. I enjoyed both though. Haven't got round to the third yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    I watched 1 and 2 back to back so I can't really remember what happens in which. I enjoyed both though. Haven't got round to the third yet.
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    The top man at NBC has added an extra year to the already pointless Will and Grace revival, and has admitted that he's always trying to get extra seasons of ER, The Office, 30 Rock, and The West Wing made. Television is well on its way to becoming a giant nostalgia fuelled asphyxiwank.

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    A new brand is a risk, old brands are a guarantee. Just look at all the old bands reforming and doing tours while everyone complains that new music is shite these days. It isn't.

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    Speaking of new brands.

    Mad Men creator Matthew Weiner is currently working on a new series, The Romanoffs, for Amazon Studios. Told in anthology format, each episode will focus on a person in the present day who believes that they are descended from doomed Russian imperial family The Romanoffs, who were executed by Bolshevik troops in July 1918. Aside from this thematic connection, the episodes will be otherwise unrelated, each a standalone story about, as Weiner puts it, “questioning who we are and who we say we are.”
    That will be batshit.

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    Fucking hell I absolutely loved the new Rick and Morty episode.

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    Most of the way through Season 2 of Battlestar now. Specifically I'm

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    I don't know why I'm doing this to myself. I'm actively on the Cylons side now, these people are idiots and deserve to be wiped out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sir andy mahowry View Post
    fucking hell i absolutely loved the new rick and morty episode.
    jaguar!

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    It was terrific fun, but the therapist's monologue aside it was easily the thinnest episode they've ever done. It's a bit of a cheat to have one of the scenes in the title sequence be a completely random stinger scene too.

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