How do you mean?Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
How do you mean?
I imagine everybody is incredibly uptight and angry.
There are quite a few like that, I suppose, yeah.
I was referring to his attempted equivocation three posts up, where voting for the DUP in 2017 is the equivalent of inviting murders to the House of Commons several weeks after their organisation attempted to kill his fellow MPs in Brighton. You know, that sort of romantic terrorism that the left love.
Don't start equating lefties like me with loving terrorism.
Sorry, but did Arlene Foster not meet with the leader of the UDA two days after they committed a murder? And did the UDA not back the DUP at the election?
You have your blinkers on here.
Already the peace treaty is on the ropes.
But that's okay because BREXIT.
In lieu of all this, it really is making Cameron look like the most selfish, egotistical, arrogant cunt that's ever been in charge of our country.
He was a complacent wanker (May isn't complacent, just awful).
Random question here, but how is it that there are never ant sort of random extreme parties that have some traditionally, say right wing ideas, but not in other regards?
For instance imagine a party who hates immigrants but loves homosexuals and abortion, but also wants very low taxes etc.
Why is it always seemingly a "full package" deal?
Have you heard about left and right wing, Maz?
Look at the fall out from that single decision though.
It wasn't really a decision, he was forced into it. And rightly so, given the result. It was his pathetic negotiations and IN campaign which cost him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40237813
So on one hand you have Labour accusing the Tories of a 'dodgy' deal with the DUP, and on the other hand you have McDonnell openly hoping that the DUP votes with Labour on the Queen's Speech and not with the Tories. They're so useless.
Nobody is forced in to anything. He was a spineless coward. Didn't he only get that majority by promising a vote on Europe to steal UKIP voters?
Also same as the tragic NO/BETTERTOGETHER campaign. Absolute cunts.
After spending 1.2 mil on negative ads to no effect
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/10/tories...4/?ito=twitter
And spending another 100k a month + expenses on this idiot from America:
https://twitter.com/Messina2012
I'm not sure I trust that the Tories do know how to spend money better than Labour. Ken Loach did his stuff for a fiver and a rollup.
Has negative campaigning ever been really effective in the UK? It always strikes me as an affront to basic British sensibility. We're not big into a hectoring/bullying approach and favour the underdog more often than not. I suppose Milliband got it, but he did more harm to himself with his campaign (being awkward, The Edstone) than any of the attack stuff, I would imagine. And even then it was hardly a Tory landslide in that election and more of a case of SNP explosion.
May as well have doctored those 1997 ads to Old Labour, Old Danger if they were going to go down the attack route.
It isn't, but they are obsessed with hiring in Americans, particularly anyone associated with Obama, and they fuck it up every time for that exact reason.
It's going to be some time until the political world gets over its Obama obsession.
On the referendum, Dave called it for party reasons but it was still fair to have one. UKIP "won" the European elections in 2014, and the fact that leave won shows there was a considerable body of opinion that supported the position. A position on is constitutionally key and wasn't represented in parliament.
You could have got away without one if we'd put the constitutional changes from Maastricht and Lisbon to the country, but the political classes were too scared they'd lose. They that soweth the wind etc.
I'm sad to inform you that Lord Buckethead is now crap
John Oliver in making funny things unfunny shock.
They brought him out for ten seconds right at the end and had John Oliver suggesting sending him to Brussels as Brexit negotiator. Aside from that it was just footage from the count and that clip where he calls the negotiations a shitshow. He fucking dabbed and remained great, so he can survive that.
Yeah yeah, I know what politics are, alright.
What I mean is there are always a bunch of these random parties in every country that have like ONE agenda but aren't too fuzzed about other issues.
Now these parties often seem to lean towards the left in their main issue, such as Piracy or Environmental advocates, who just sort of add in a bunch of other stuff.
On typically right-wing ideals though, this never seems to happen. It's never as if a party is fucking furious about immigration policy but actually OK with most other stuff, there always seems to be some sort of "fuck everyone" package that they have to base their manifesto on.
They are all nuts either way, obviously, but still.
The Scottish UKIP leader has announced he's running for the full leadership. He looks exactly as how you imagine
Queens Speech to be delayed because the Strong and Stable Coalition can't agree what's in it.
Is that Scott Bryan from Buzzfeed?
I went to uni with him. Nice bloke.
One of the reasons for the delay is also believed to be because the speech has to be written on goat's skin parchment paper, which takes a few days to dry - and the Tory negotiations with the DUP mean it cannot be ready in time.
Fucking hell. What a set of pretentious cunts.
That is why we are the best country in the world.
And I thought having a Monarch announce government policy was overly traiditonal.
If you have the option of goat skin parchment over normal paper then you should absolutely take it and anyone who says they wouldn't is a big dirty fibber.
It's actually the best thing to use if you want the documents to last forever.
Google Docs probz better.
In that case it's a good thing that future archaeologists will have full information about the short-lived Tory oligarchy of 2017.
Fun fact: he's the only question time participant who has yet to be clapped for one of his points. #draughtThe Scottish UKIP leader has announced he's running for the full leadership. He looks exactly as how you imagine
'Oligarchy'.You're a maniac, Henry.
Presumably they mean the ink takes a few days to dry on the parchment, otherwise why wouldn't they have a stockpile of that stuff ready to go, or at least produce some a few days in advance of the election. That's a properly daft reason for things to be delayed, since they could just write the speech on some normal paper or a teleprompter then reproduce it on the proper stuff for archiving, but I like that they're going all out on the tradition.
Holy shit you guys weren't joking. The goat skin paper is a legit thing. I fucking love Britain.
She's managed to survive the 1922 Committee, so they'll presumably be letting her carry on until it's convenient for regicide.
Fuck knows when that'll be. The VENGEANCE of the electorate when Brexit inevitably goes south will be something to behold - we'll have Caroline Lucas as Prime Minister and London declaring independence.
#DUPMovies on Twitter. Hahahah
I love the Joe ones too. And the BBC3 ones.
Can't touch Parliawint though...
I had a great idea ages ago for a dystopian movie/novel where London and the university cities have literally declared independence and run a leftie luvvie utopia, whilst the rest of the country decays into an anarchic mess which hangs foreigners. Sadly it'll never see the light of day now because it's FUCKING HAPPENING.
It doesn't help that our political classes are clowns - from all parties. I doubt they have it in them not to fall to pieces during the negotiations as well.
Luvvistan would bankrupt itself within weeks, at which point it would have to start stoking civil war in places like Leeds and Durham.
Austerity is over, says The Times headline. Causing the Tories to abandon the worst of their policies is a pretty good sign.
I'm assuming there would be massive population transfers in such a scenario, so presumably it ends up like some sort of Partition of India shitfest.
We'll just have to have it again from 2027 when this period of overspending inevitably leads to our piling on more debt.
The Tories are, however, nothing if not flexible when the prospect of losing power heaves into view - everything must be on the table to prevent the reds getting anywhere near power.
They should just do the fucking NHS £350 million thing. The most opposition that will generate is Charles Moore losing his shit in his Notes column in the Spectator.
In for a penny, in for a pound. An extra £20bn on the deficit, which we can fund by taxing Jeremy Corbyn's ego.
Eventually, I suppose. They could all be agreed on the ground after Brexit Britain has somewhere like Norwich under siege for years, or when Luvvistan tries to force a supply route from London through to the North West.
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