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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    It's hard to know in which direction you would start windmilling here. The state of those Young Conservatives.


    Who thought it was a good idea to combat that lot by sending out a bunch of smug-faced gimps to stand there and look smug?

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    It was a great idea, actually. Those twats egging what are probably children makes them look like an even bigger bunch of cunts.

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    They're a bunch of wankers, but there's nothing weirder than a young conservative, and you'd think the Tories would want to keep that mob under wraps.

    Someone find that 'Young, bright, and very right' documentary again.

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    I think anyone of that age who are members of a political party are cunts. Look at that fat SNP thing that got into parliament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    How do they propose to 'Get the Tories Out', then?
    It's not realistic, but it conceivably could happen. They don't have dictatorial powers because they won an election, and it's still right to protest if you disagree with them.

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    Are you a big fan of Corbyn, Henners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    It's not realistic, but it conceivably could happen. They don't have dictatorial powers because they won an election, and it's still right to protest if you disagree with them.
    Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QE Harold Flair View Post
    Are you a big fan of Corbyn, Henners?
    Obviously.

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    I was just wondering if you'd considered giving up your beloved Greens for the new Communist party?

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    It's a few years since I've been involved with the Greens. And I'm not a communist.

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    What put you off the Greens Henners?

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    Are you sure? Corbyn is, after all.

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    I'm not clear how you define that word. Corbyn is a democratic socialist, not a communist.

    And Yevrah, I drifted away from the Greens after they went into coalition in Ireland. I still might vote for them depending on options/circumstances etc.

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    Well he has talked about having communist heroes and the like. It's certainly there within him at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QE Harold Flair View Post
    Well he has talked about having communist heroes and the like. It's certainly there within him at the very least.
    There are "heroes" of all stripes. But who are you talking about, specifically?

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    Something in the back of my mind remembers an article where he said Marx a hero of his. From a while ago, mind.

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    This one?

    Seems to be another example of the right-wing press taking a qualified, considered statement and turning it into a distorted soundbite. To deny the influence of Marx on politics and politicians of all types would be very ignorant indeed.

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    Are you ashamed to be linked to communism or something?

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    I have no links to communism. I am in opposition to communist ideals, methods and their outdated theories. You've been told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gideon Osborne
    Millions of working people. These people need to know we are on their side. Because many of them, let’s be frank, still voted for the Labour Party just this May... We’ve got to understand their reservations... Do you know what the supporters of the new Labour leadership now call anyone who believes in strong national defence, a market economy, and the country living within its means? They call them Tories. Well, it’s our job to make sure they’re absolutely right. Because we’re now the party of work, the only true party of labour.
    Bye, Labour. It's been shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    I have no links to communism. I am in opposition to communist ideals, methods and their outdated theories. You've been told.
    I will revisit this in time, I fear.

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    Gideon posturing for the leadership, interestingly.

    Jeremy Hunt calling for American and Asian work practices, revealingly.

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    Does Harold think anyone who admires Marx is a communist?

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    It takes quite a lot for me to side with Len McCluskey over a Tory, but Jeremy Hunt has managed it there. We shouldn't be aspiring to be American or Chinese. Those are inferior countries and societies to our own.

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    Fucking Hunt. He's a massive wanker.

    What was Osborne's speech like? When I saw the content reported my first thought was "well Labour are absolutely fucked" but it is being reported that his delivery was piss poor. Which isn't much good if he wants to be the next PM, which we all know he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Does Harold think anyone who admires Marx is a communist?
    There's usually a link.

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    David Cameron apparently stands like that behind podiums. It's some weird stability thing (fitting).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davgooner View Post
    They're a bunch of wankers, but there's nothing weirder than a young conservative, and you'd think the Tories would want to keep that mob under wraps.

    Someone find that 'Young, bright, and very right' documentary again.
    I recently discovered a boy I went to school with is into politics and made a tit of himself on live TV.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-live-TV.html

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    Theresa May has just made a pretty terrifying speech. Hateful cow.

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    Elaborate for those of us who missed it.

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    She went big on the anti-immigrant thing, though I don't know the details.

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    Boris, on the other hand, donned the whole year's worth of politics.


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    It's going to be amazing when he's PM.

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    Osborne v Boris is an intriguing battle. Osborne has total control of the party and now the government's internal machine, but Boris is far more appealing to voters.

    In reality I'd want Gideon running things and Boris foreign sec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    She went big on the anti-immigrant thing, though I don't know the details.
    She is correct but I scarcely believe she believes what she's saying.

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    A better explanation of the awful cow's awfulness than I could give: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...lly-wrong.html

    Her political career ended today.

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    She's saying what most people think (and is mostly true), so I don't think it will harm her at all.

    I'm mot sure why the article is so quick to believe the evidence of the same person they claim can't be trusted.

    Quote Originally Posted by shit article
    The government's own assessments in other documents say other things too. The Treasury, for instance, says immigration means annual GDP growth is .25 percentage points higher. The OBR, meanwhile, says immigration means the deficit is smaller because of the taxes immigrants pay.
    Yes, and those taxes would be mostly down to the skilled immigrants who nobody is against (until we actually bother training our own people instead of making a point of not doing so and relying on immigration). The majority of immigrants are low-skilled and not needed. They're great for big business, though.

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    If they weren't needed they wouldn't be here.

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    'She's just saying what everyone's thinking!'


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    Do you have a full time job Hazza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    'She's just saying what everyone's thinking!'

    The majority, yes. What's funny about such a fact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    If they weren't needed they wouldn't be here.
    What an utterly moronic statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by QE Fraser Nelson
    "But as Mark Carney, the (immigrant) Governor of the Bank of England, recently observed, low wages are kept down by a never-ending supply of talented newcomers happy with the minimum wage. So all of this, while pretty good for the rich, is tougher if you’re competing with immigrants for jobs, school places, a GP appointment or social housing. Failing to recognise the real pressures people face, or to confuse such worries as xenophobia, is the surest way to incubate extremism."

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    It's too crude a speech really. You can't just say 'immigration' wanks up cohesion. You need to be more specific about which immigrants. Unfortunately nobody wants to do that, which is why the Poles and that get a load of unearned grief. They aren't taking over schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QE Harold Flair View Post
    What an utterly moronic statement.
    You said yourself they're 'great for big business'. How much more would you be willing to pay for food (for example) if it meant British people farmed it on a 'good wage'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    You said yourself they're 'great for big business'. How much more would you be willing to pay for food (for example) if it meant British people farmed it on a 'good wage'?
    I'd pay a bit more for a country with a sense of identity, certainly. Not that I accept your inference that big business would have to raise prices to pay people a proper wage (they would spend more, so what's the difference?). I'm more concerned about the social aspect anyway, not the economic, as I have made clear many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QE Harold Flair View Post
    I'd pay a bit more for a country with a sense of identity, certainly.
    Would you? Because the public's in meltdown due to Tesco are asking 5p for a plastic bag. So I somehow doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Would you? Because the public's in meltdown due to Tesco are asking 5p for a plastic bag. So I somehow doubt it.
    What does that have to do with what I personally think? The majority of the country is in favour of significantly less migration, so then you must be. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QE Harold Flair View Post
    I'd pay a bit more for a country with a sense of identity, certainly. Not that I accept your inference that big business would have to raise prices to pay people a proper wage (they would spend more, so what's the difference?). I'm more concerned about the social aspect anyway, not the economic, as I have made clear many times.
    So am I, but what is there to suggest that Eastern Europeans don't/won't integrate? There is nothing in their cultures that is inherently opposed to our 'values' in the way that Third World hang-overs suck shit in the developed world (or how people identify as Muslims and stick to that pish).

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    Forty years after the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the formerly homogenous Sweden into a multicultural country, violent crime has increased by 300% and rapes by 1,472%. Sweden is now number two on the list of rape countries, surpassed only by Lesotho in Southern Africa.
    Another victory for forced multiculturalism.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

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