The only people those restrictions would apply to are law abiding citizens, disadvantaging them in any confrontation with criminals, don't you get that?Originally Posted by John
The only people those restrictions would apply to are law abiding citizens, disadvantaging them in any confrontation with criminals, don't you get that?
How? They all have phones and can dial 911. We do something similar in England and aren't crimed to bits.
This example is always used, seemingly due to fear of Viking raids or the plot from a 1980's JCVD movie - but I have to question... How often does anyone experience a violent intruder in their home whilst they are at home?
Again, a quaint analogy - this one appears to allude to shootouts outside the ol' saloon, perhaps in front of the half constructed clock tower, whilst the sheriff is incapacitated?
I'd be genuinely interested as to how often the law abiding citizens use those guns to defend themselves successfully. The very fact that there are potentially guns on both sides escalates the risk for BOTH parties.
Also, reduce the legal guns and you'll reduce the illegal arms too.
Actually fuck it, let's pretend Mert used that other wonderful cliche that those in his camp (the NRA) so often use too -
Except, today Tyranny will come at you with F-15's and helicopter gunships.
Futility = Freedom.
They could always fight a guerrilla war where their cousin-wives secretly bring food into the swamp at night for the freedom fighters.
You laugh, but history suggests that the Americans would lose that war.
The federal government would probably end up massacring and / or forcibly expelling those who were left alive.
The home of the brave.
Everything is just shit.
Shit, we forgot about bruhnaldo.
He'd already pulled and was long gone.
lol at Owen Jones storming off Sky News.
I appreciate Lewis' faith in me. Ask early and often, my tactic.
What happened?
He didn't seem to like any discussion about the Florida shooting that didn't make it entirely about gay people.
The news man and Julia Hartley-Brewer were attempting to put it into the general context of Muslims attacking things Muslims don't like (music, cartoons, gays), but he just wanted to call it homophobic terrorism and quote the bloke's old man saying that watching Eurovision set him off.
He's such a twat. I really dislike the little prick.
"You don't understand this becase you're not gay"
Someone punch this twat in the face, please.
I'm only two minutes in, and it's gold, he really is a monstrous twat.
I wish I could say this was a troll.
Terrible tragedy but I laughed multiple times reading this thread, you horrible cunts.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...m-is-pro-trump
Well that's... something.
She dons him at 4:30 and he just seethes silently from then on. Textbook WDYTOE meltdown.
He's so fucking desperate to be a victim. Fuck off you dickhead, nobody tried to shoot you.
Didn't even know he was gay. Given that I suppose you can understand it.
Lol this isn't '91, mate.
John Howard
Ya I'm sure that the person about to murder you will wait for the police to show up to protect you before proceeding.
Who's showing up to murder me? My house has been robbed twice and they've run the moment I turned up/they were aware of my presence.
It's not relevant how often it happens, it's the unqualified right I have as a human being to protect myself and my family from harm. Period.
Drugs are illegal, and yet they are very easy to come by if you are determined. Guns would be the same.
1. There are plenty of historical examples of the 2nd Amendment being used to combat tyranny in the United States. (Such as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain and this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)) This is not a hypothetical scenario imagined by dead white men in the 18th century, it has been validated by actual application throughout American history.
2. It's not about defeating the government (although eradicating guerrilla campaigns can be a bitch), but about raising the relative cost of imposing tyranny so that it acts as an effective deterrent. The first thing the Bolsheviks and Nazis did before embarking on their mass killing / subjugation of population groups, was to disarm them; it's not a coincidence. Could you imagine how much harder perpetrating the Holocaust would have been if Jews had been armed like Texans?
You guys are just wrong. Any argument you make I can very easily counter, at the end of the day it just comes down to, 'well emotionally I just feel that gun control should work, it works in the UK, and because I have an inferiority complex due to my countries relative poverty compared to the US, I will continue irrationally believing that my country is right on this issue even in the face of overwhelming logic, reason and evidence to the contrary.'
Just replace the gas ovens with the golden arches?
There's something so very quaint about Americans and their paranoia.
There's something so very alarming about the Europeans and their arrogant belief in their immunity from the human tendency towards tyranny and repression, etc.
If only the native Americans had had assault rifles.
If you want a proliferation of guns, you'll just have to accept that there will constantly be mass murders - I'm making the 488th post in this thread - and if you're fine with that, then enjoy living in America. I hope your friends and family never get caught up in one.
Liberal logic:
"If you ban guns then society will be safer because people won't have access to guns"
"If you ban abortions then women will be less safe because they will still access abortions illegally"
Gunmen, they fire, Mert's five chins are terrified.
I'll keep working on it.
Mate, he'd have sex with your girlfriend.
You should just stick this in your signature and be done with it.
6 music are having gay disco fest because of Orlando. If only they knew these are the sort of side effects their rampages cause. Bloody Moslems.
What if they have a tank? Or there's 10 of them?
It's not relevant how unlikely that is to happen, you should still be protecting yourself and your family from it.
A shot fired from a legal gun does the same damage as a shot fired from an illegal gun.
The only variable with guns is how many shots get fired.
How many times do I have to say this, mass shootings do not happen in suburban America, any more than they happen in Europe. An example, America's safest city over a population of 250,000 is Plano, Texas with a homicide rate of 0.4 (which is lower than the countries of Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Denmark, etc.). I'm at work so I can't be bothered to find the exact numbers, but Texas almost undoubtedly has a higher incidence of average gun ownership than the US as a whole, and the US has the highest civilian gun ownership rate out of any country in the world, by a lot.
So the main take away: there are places in America where crime is lower than nearly anywhere else on earth, where the citizenry is armed more heavily than anywhere else on earth.
Guns. Are. Not. The. Problem.
We just going to pretend deterrence doesn't exist or?
There's a difference between 'unlikely' and 'impossible'.
mert's schitzophrenia must really be getting to him on this one, what with having to consider all three angles - gays, gun rights and Muslamics.
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