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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Yep.
    First Mellin(berg) and now this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh View Post
    It really is great. It's a shame that the rumours for Glastonbury would make it embarrassing compared with this. May have to change festivals from next year.
    LCD Soundsystem are heavily rumoured to be headlining Other Stage. Similar talk about Sigur Ros, too. Radiohead are still being banded about, but the Muse/Adele/Coldplay thing won't go away. Its not like the rumours for Glastonbury are normally accurate anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Post-Rock

    Do fuck off.

    Is everyone from Chuck Berry onwards in the Post-Rock genre?
    The point of Post- anything is generally that it shows increased artistic or musical intention. Post-punk was the first reference most would have used, and I'd say it encapsulates it perfectly. It took Punk's energy, angst and spikiness and brought a dollop of musicality that had never been present in punk. To a certain extent, it negates the needs for the complication of further categorisation by being sub categorised as post-X.

    Same goes for pretty much any example going, be it that Post Hardcore brought greater emphasis on lyrical content and irregular time sig's, Post-rock incorporating both classical and progressive adjustments or any post- or 'core' genres associated with Metal actually having some good acts as opposed to being you know... Metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    What about after that?
    It's noteable progression of a genre, and purely a way to identify trends in music and categorise for ease of reference.

    Most of the music I love has guitars but I hate almost everything exclusively labelled 'rock' (all the MOR/AOR modern Foo Fighter type shite), so I embrace those labels as they help me find the bands that I'm going to like. They also generally have cultures/scenes around them which mean something to those engaged in them (obviously sneered by those on the outside too normally).

    I used to hate labelling music in that way, until I realised it did bring real value and doesn't define anyone, it's just a good way of referencing, which when you consume as much music as I do becomes a massive benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    It's noteable progression of a genre, and purely a way to identify trends in music and categorise for ease of reference.

    Most of the music I love has guitars but I hate almost everything exclusively labelled 'rock' (all the MOR/AOR modern Foo Fighter type shite), so I embrace those labels as they help me find the bands that I'm going to like. They also generally have cultures/scenes around them which mean something to those engaged in them (obviously sneered by those on the outside too normally).

    I used to hate labelling music in that way, until I realised it did bring real value and doesn't define anyone, it's just a good way of referencing, which when you consume as much music as I do becomes a massive benefit.

    Mate, just listen to yourself back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Mate, just listen to yourself back.
    Why?

    It's quite an easy statement to digest and one that clearly states why it is of benefit to some people to use this extreme categorisation.

    On reflection, I ought to have stated breadth as opposed to volume as being the main reason, but hey ho. I'm not trying to wear it as a badge of fucking honour, but it's significant part of my life, accounting for a heck of a lot of my time reading, listening, analysing or attending gigs.

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    'Music is my life, maaaan.'

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    Sorry, I'll stop taking the piss now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    Why?

    It's quite an easy statement to digest and one that clearly states why it is of benefit to some people to use this extreme categorisation.

    On reflection, I ought to have stated breadth as opposed to volume as being the main reason, but hey ho. I'm not trying to wear it as a badge of fucking honour, but it's significant part of my life, accounting for a heck of a lot of my time reading, listening, analysing or attending gigs.
    Do you play anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsrevolution View Post
    Do you play anything?
    Probably Runescape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsrevolution View Post
    Do you play anything?
    Not any more, on account of having been a shite guitarist and worse frontman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Mate, just listen to yourself back.
    Can you not accept the fact that Merse may listen to more music than the average person?

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    You're not allowed to say things like "I listen to a lot of music" for some reason. "I watch a lot of films" is fine, but music is off limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    Can you not accept the fact that Merse may listen to more music than the average person?
    Considering I listen to music most of my day and spent 2 and a half years of my professional life booking and promoting musicians / working for a record label, nah. The reason why music is great because ANYONE can appreciate it without any prior knowledge. Genre wankers spend their time obfuscating music to make themselves seem more informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    You're not allowed to say things like "I listen to a lot of music" for some reason. "I watch a lot of films" is fine, but music is off limits.
    Film wankers are just as bad if not worse because they've chosen a shitter medium to be interested in.

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    He's not saying he listens to more music than you do.

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    My nan listens to more music than both of you.

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    How dare you say that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    He's not saying he listens to more music than you do.
    I'm not either. I just said genre wankers will be genre wankers and I will gladly call them genre wankers.

    Let's all calm down and listen to some Pre-Hip Post-Hop Neo Soul Funk Riddim


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    Has anyone said anything in English past the first post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Considering I listen to music most of my day and spent 2 and a half years of my professional life booking and promoting musicians / working for a record label, nah. The reason why music is great because ANYONE can appreciate it without any prior knowledge. Genre wankers spend their time obfuscating music to make themselves seem more informed.
    For fucks sake, I've outlined why - it's ease of reference. Simple as that. I largely only use the sub-genre's with those who know what I'm on about, hence here I'd generally just say punk or urban or math rock etc as the audience is diverse. When most people ask me what I'm into, I pretty much say 'Punk', as it's the starting point for 75% of what I listen to (and I include Indie in that with most of it being related to a proto or post-punk movement of some description) but if I know they're like me, I will more in depth, as I'm not talking fucking Green Day, nor Screwdriver, nor Siouxsie, and sub-genres allow me and others like me to do so a lot quicker and more comprehensively than otherwise.

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    This thread is classic TTH. Someone post a Hitchens video (ideally a post-rock, nu-disco elctroclash mashup)

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    I've just skim read all where I've left off but Merse, as Dav would say, give your fucking head a wobble you pompous gobshite.

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    what the fuck is going on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Man Half Biscuit - Irk The Purists
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    Love ya really, Merse.

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    Glastonbury this week. The line up is wank, the weather looks pretty shit, and I'm not getting there until Thursday. Should be alreet though.

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    Still got the best song on this page

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    I'm going down tomorrow night and staying in a hotel before pitching up on Wednesday morning. It's looking grim as fuck but it's my first Glasto so I'm just going to get absolutely ruined for the duration.

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    https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=37465

    That is a ridiculous way to start a line up. FlyLo and Death Grips are 10/10 gigs, plus seeing Aphex Twin and Frank Ocean for the first time, as well as Run The Jewels, Ben UFO, Skepta, Bicep, Pearson Sound all being quality. Jesus.

    You've been, haven't you, James? Recommend it? Is there camping? #OohMatron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    https://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=37465

    That is a ridiculous way to start a line up. FlyLo and Death Grips are 10/10 gigs, plus seeing Aphex Twin and Frank Ocean for the first time, as well as Run The Jewels, Ben UFO, Skepta, Bicep, Pearson Sound all being quality. Jesus.

    You've been, haven't you, James? Recommend it? Is there camping? #OohMatron
    Yeah, been twice. Got tickets for next year today. I think it might be the best European line up I've ever seen.

    It's a great festival. There is no camping so you have to sort city accomodation out for yourself. The worst bit about it is that the public transport is very unreliable at at 4am so you'll often spend an hour or two trying to figure out to get home if you're staying near the city centre. Definitely trying to get a place nearer the festival this time round, though it's a bit out of the way of everything else in Barcelona.

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    It's mad. Thinking about it, its at a really bad time for me, though. Aphex Twin and Frank Ocean are playing Lovebox which is a lot cheaper and at a good time. Went to Dour last year in Belgium, though, and it honestly was on a par with Glastonbury. The sound quality over every stage at Dour was better than any other festival I've been to, and every act apart from The Prodigy was insane. Ended up missing the first half of SOPHIE in the hope that The Prodigy would play loads of old stuff. Such a fucking let down, then as they walked off they played the intro to Out Of Space. Cheeky fucking cunts.

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    I like Frank Ocean but assuming he's headlining there will probably be something I prefer on at the same time. Reckon missus and I will be splitting up for that one.

    It gets better the more I look at it. They have killed it with the dancey/electronic stuff this year. The part of the festival where loads of it is on opens at midday and is connected to the beach (best beach in Barca I think). Afternoons don't get much better.

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    Does it all end at 2300 then? That's pretty shit. Frank Ocean is an odd one. I love Channel Orange, but Blonde was a bit dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    Does it all end at 2300 then? That's pretty shit. Frank Ocean is an odd one. I love Channel Orange, but Blonde was a bit dull.
    Nah, went on till about 6am this year. Main stages only start at about 6. Too hot, innit.

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    Ah, that's pretty awesome, then. Just sleep under an umbrella on the beach during the day.

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    Never heard of even one of them.

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    You'll like Death Grips.

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    I saw Death Grips at Berghain a month ago or so. Went solo tier, British guy in the crowd with glasses and a pullover told me it was going to be a "feral" experience. I was like lol yeah whatever. Then they come on and the entire crowd turns into a mosh pit. I was pretty much sober for some reason and could only last in the mosh for about 20 minutes. Humanity's greatest art form

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    'solo tier'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    You'll like Death Grips.
    You're all about the hip hop aren't you?

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    I have some stuff by Aphex Twin.

    Stone Roses were rumoured for Leeds and Reading festivals but it looks like they're just playing at the arena. Might get some tickets when they come out on Friday, although it depends how they're priced.

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    I'm still in two minds whether to try get GNR tickets on Friday morning. On one hand it'll be the last chance to ever see them again but on the other, Slane is a kip and Roses voice has completely gone.

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    Aphex Twin is brilliant, but whether it's him or someone else a close eye needs kept on whoever comes up with his videos, 'Rubber Johnny' in particular.

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    I know it probably makes me seem like I 'just don't get it' but Death Grips is wank.

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    It's that pure hypebeast material. You just gotta be willing to become a grizzly bear

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    Fans of Aphex Twin should check out Antwood's album from this year. It's on the "out there" end of the Aphex Twin scale but it's very enjoyable. Club music that you could never play in a club sort of thing.

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